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[drstrangeglove]

For the longest time I've had trouble crying. I think that this may have to do with depression that I've had in the past, but now that I'm back to normal I still can't seem to bring up tears or deeply sad emotions. I've tried many therapeutic approaches but now I'm looking for a substance that could help with the waterworks. Any ideas? 

[Al Capacino]

Nsi 189 can induce melancholic feelings.

For me lofepramine made me very emotional and almost everything brought me to tears on it. It's a tricyclic antidepressant.

[jaiho]

Same problem here but rather with all emotions. I'm trying nsi 189 for the same reason

[Soma]

You've tried therapeutic approaches to be able to feel "deeply sad emotions"? That's rather ironic and counterintuitive, yet profoundly interesting. Usually people are undergoing therapy to quell their deeply sad emotions. Does part of us desire some measure of pain?
It lends credence to the notion that there is indeed an part of us that wants to, at the very least, experience so called negative or painful emotional states intermittently. If so, it kind of throws the entire psychotherapy and self-help industry into question. We humans are complex and paradoxical critters, aren't we?

Edited by Soma, 07 November 2014 - 12:50 PM.

[AOLministrator]

LSD/MDMA, magic mushrooms not so much. MDMA though might trigger depression. I don't think though it is normal for adults to cry.

Edited by Aolministrator, 08 November 2014 - 07:56 PM.

[Thew]

My friend used to have that problem with the emotion. As far as I know, she used nsi 189 and I think it was effective.

[Dichotohmy]

You've tried therapeutic approaches to be able to feel "deeply sad emotions"? That's rather ironic and counterintuitive, yet profoundly interesting. Usually people are undergoing therapy to quell their deeply sad emotions. Does part of us desire some measure of pain?
It lends credence to the notion that there is indeed an part of us that wants to, at the very least, experience so called negative or painful emotional states intermittently. If so, it kind of throws the entire psychotherapy and self-help industry into question. We humans are complex and paradoxical critters, aren't we?

 

True emotional blunting from anhedonia and the like covers the whole spectrum of emotions. Being in that state for a long time does make you yearn to feel something, anything, including "sad" emotions. Indeed, there is something cathartic about slipping into a maudlin state when a window of emotional capacity spontaneously opens, and the experience can be just as powerful and satisfying as one's memory of "happy" emotions.

 

Anyway, heavy drinking to the point to dissociation and mild psychosis was always a good way to induce crying and the maudlin experience for me, but is also dangerous and of course irresponsible.

[Soma]

True emotional blunting from anhedonia and the like covers the whole spectrum of emotions. Being in that state for a long time does make you yearn to feel something, anything, including "sad" emotions.

Reminds me of the quote by William Faulkner: "Between grief and nothing, I will take grief."

Edited by Soma, 10 November 2014 - 05:50 PM.

[Flex]

I would also gladly know this..

[AOLministrator]

I also cry when I am physically tortured. Might be difficult to find the right mistress/master willing to do that to you, but it works better than drugs. Guaranteed.

Edited by Aolministrator, 17 November 2014 - 07:13 PM.

[drstrangeglove]

OK, guys, I finally tried phenibut of all things, and I gotta say it worked! Emotions flew freely and it wasn't intoxicating like alcohol. Neat. It seems that crying comes with high positive or negative emotions. I was taking smallish (300mg) doses and floods of emotions came on unexpectedly. Powerful stuff. 

Edited by drstrangeglove, 17 November 2014 - 08:46 PM.

[Flex]

I also cry when I am physically tortured. Might be difficult to find the right mistress/master willing to do that to you, but it works better than drugs. Guaranteed.

 

Sigh... No its like when any near relative die and You are still unable to cry

 

I´ve tried coptis chinensis this weekend and this made me at least to a good extend more emotional and in addition improved social feelings.

Brought me more nearly to tears so to say.

Edited by Flex, 17 November 2014 - 10:46 PM.

[AOLministrator]

I think you just believe you should cry but in fact it would be not normal for an adult to not be able to just easily deal with such a situation emotionally. So you try to confuse yourself to invoke that response in almost instinctive or maybe just misguided hopes it would do something meaningful to your inner workings. But maybe that can only be so with your mental facilities still being on the level of a 5 year old who would much more need to make that low-level sort of realization to continue to make sense of the world. No?

 

If you don't mean that, then I would firstly recommend antiandrogens.

Edited by Aolministrator, 18 November 2014 - 05:29 PM.

[oblomov]

In my view, there is nothing inherently bad about negative emotions.  In a healthy person:

 

1) they are momentary and are quickly used to develop a more complex understanding of the situation that provoked the negative emotion

2) this more complex understanding leads to constructive modification of behavior

 

Often, we inhibit negative emotions because rather than being edifying in this way, they just make one feel helpless.

 

The cycle of feeling negative emotions and feeling helpless because of the negative emotions is how I would define depression.

 

NSI-189 did help me step back from my problems and see how I was mishandling them in some cases.

 

 

Edited by oblomov, 21 November 2014 - 06:26 PM.

[StevesPetRat]

Chopped onions 4TW.

[kurdishfella]

why do tears make a white solid on the skin when it dries up?

[sentics]

you could go looking for entactogenics