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#1 bluemoon

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Posted 29 September 2015 - 09:45 PM


In the Q&A of a talk David Sinclair gave in Sydney last fall he said that he was taking resveartrol but didn't say if he was taking NR. Guarente said in an interview in winter that he was taking resveratrol but in a later interview said  he takes Elysium Basis (his company's NR + blueberry compound),  2500mg of vitamin D and 82mg of asprin -- no mention of resveratrol

 

It isn't clear if Guarente stopped taking resveratrol or is continuing, but the idea I got was that NR / blueberry compound acts as a more bioavailable type of resveratrol.

 

It is interesting that Sinclair says he is taking resveratrol which is "pretty good" but thinks new supplements to increase NAD will be better.

 

Sorta strange.... 

 

 



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Posted 30 September 2015 - 02:26 AM

Believe nothing that you hear and only half of what you see.


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Posted 30 September 2015 - 09:46 PM

Believe nothing that you hear and only half of what you see.

 

Huh?

 

I'm a skeptic at heart. But are you saying Guarente and Sinclair are lying about what they take? Sinclair has said for years he was taking resveratrol and added he checked his blood work every week for months.

 

What I don't get is that Guarente said in February that he thought pterostilbine (compound in blueberries) may have a synergistic effect with NR, sort of tweaked vitamin B3. It looks like we will no more soon when Elysium puts up their results sometime this fall.

 

But from what I've read, ptersostilbine is like resveratrol but supposedly more bioavailable, so it seems odd that Guarente would take both resveratrol and ptersostilbine.Guarente said he was taking resveratrol last fall so maybe stopped once he started his NR/pterostilbine.



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Posted 30 September 2015 - 10:47 PM

In this video at around 21-minutes Sinclair says they've now developed molecules that are thousands of times more potent than resveratrol.



In other youtube speeches he says he's given resveratrol to all of his family members. He seems honest and sincere to me.

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:46 AM

In this video at around 21-minutes Sinclair says they've now developed molecules that are thousands of times more potent than resveratrol.

 

In other youtube speeches he says he's given resveratrol to all of his family members. He seems honest and sincere to me.

 

Guarente is also obviously sincere. 

 

Here is the full talk from last fall and definitely worth listening to the Sinclair parts:

 

1:18:30 At the Q&A, Sinclair speculates what the world might look like with people living to 120, 150 and beyond.

 

He starts with resveratrol, though. "Resveratrol isn't the cure-all. In mice it's had some good results and bad results. It works better if the body is out of whack. ... in obese mice it works very well. But I think we can do better than that. Resveratrol has a number of liabilities as a drug. It's very insoluble and you can barely absorb it. I'm taking it, not because I think it will make me live to 200 but because I know what's going to happen I * don't* take it, but I don't want to give the impression that I endorse anyone take it or that it's the best thing we have. In fact, that's 10 years old technology, and we have better things now. I think the NAD approach that I mentioned will be superior.      

 

1:37 :00 where Sinclair starts by saying what a shame that anti-aging research funding is still tiny. 

 

"That's a shame. But it's increasing and what I'm excited about and hope you can get excited about is the potential for revolutionary change and not just incremental change in medicine. And imagine going to your doctor for a drug for your Alzheimer's disease or to prevent it, and it will prevent cancer and heart disease and improve your sex life and all that sort of stuff <grins> We're talking about medicines, and it's not a joke that we are seeing particular molecules that have massive benefits across the body. Rapamacn is one, resveratrol is pretty good, there's another called metformin , which is currently on the market. And the combination of these could potentially have a dramatic effect on lifespan. And new drugs are in development - just around the corner. Some of these molecules are already in clinic trials

 

"So the future looks bright. We're going as fast as we can given the current funding, but I hope you're as excited about the future as much as I am "
 

 



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Posted 01 October 2015 - 02:26 AM

Thanks for transcribing and posting these positive words from Sinclair. I really like him and his message. At some point in this process we're gonna need to drop some of this fashionable cynicism and embrace these new technologies and advances. I like Kurzweil's messages, too. I mean, it's easy to get discouraged by the seemingly slow plodding pace of regenerative medicine. It seems often like empty promises -- nothing's happening. Then, media headlines jump out at us proclaiming cures, then nothing seems to work out. We all want progress to quicken, and that's gonna take less complaining and more willingness to reach for what seems an impossible dream to us right now. Less suffering and a better life for everyone is what we should be striving to realize.
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Posted 01 October 2015 - 11:58 AM

Why isn't anyone asking what these other compounds are that are a 1000x more powerful than resveratrol???


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Posted 01 October 2015 - 12:30 PM

And is a compound that's a thousand times more powerful than resveratrol even healthy? So, I get the feeling a lot is happening behind the scenes and without casual public awareness until clinical trials are slowly uncovered.

Another interesting aspect is that many here seem to view resveratrol as a flub, the sale of Sinclair's company to GSK as a failure, and they've given up on the stuff. But hearing Sinclair talk I don't get the impression that GSK has given up on resveratrol at all.

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Posted 02 October 2015 - 12:56 AM

Hmm

http://www.prohealth...cfm?libid=21425

ProHealth Home > Research Library > Latest News & Research

Resveratrol May Offer Protection Against Alzheimer’s

By Dr. Mercola
September 30, 2015

Resveratrol is an antioxidant found in a number of plants, including grape skins, raspberries, mulberries, pomegranate, and raw cacao, and is known to have a number of beneficial health effects.

It belongs to a family of compounds known as polyphenols, which is produced by plants to increase their survival and resistance to disease during times of stress, such as excessive ultraviolet light, infections, and climate changes.

When you consume it, you can reap similar protection.

Indeed, resveratrol is known to combat damaging free radicals in your body, and health benefits include general life extension, and the prevention of cancer,1 Alzheimer’s disease, and depression.

Resveratrol is found in abundance in red wine. Because it’s highly soluble in alcohol, your body may absorb more of it from red wine than from other sources.

Despite that, I do not suggest drinking large amounts of red wine, as alcohol in and of itself is neurotoxic and can damage your brain and other organs. I believe there are far healthier sources for this potent free radical scavenger than wine.

Muscadine grapes, for example, have the highest concentration of resveratrol in nature because of their extra thick skins and numerous seeds, in which resveratrol is concentrated.

Resveratrol Has Neuroprotective Effects

Over the years, a number of studies have suggested resveratrol has neuroprotective effects, and may even slow the onset or progression of Alzheimer’s disease and vascular dementia.

The latter is the second most common type of dementia after Alzheimer’s, and accounts for 20 to 30 percent of all cases. This form of dementia is caused by blocked or reduced cerebral blood flow, resulting in your brain cells being chronically deprived of oxygen and vital nutrients.

A number of different mechanisms and properties contribute to resveratrol’s neuroprotective influence.

One of the special properties of resveratrol is its ability to cross your blood-brain barrier, which allows it to moderate inflammation in your central nervous system. This is significant because CNS inflammation plays an important role in the development of neurodegenerative diseases.

Resveratrol has also been shown to improve cerebral blood flow, which is part of its protective effects against vascular dementia, as well as stroke. A 2010 study found that even one single dose of resveratrol can improve blood flow to your brain.

Previous research has also found resveratrol improves learning and memory in rats with vascular dementia by reducing oxidative stress in their brains.

Another 2010 study found that resveratrol suppresses inflammatory effects in certain brain cells (microglia and astrocytes) by inhibiting different pro-inflammatory cytokines and key signaling molecules.

Studies also show that resveratrol may prevent the formation of plaque in your brain that leads to Alzheimer’s disease.

Resveratrol Helps Prevent Hallmark Plaques Associated with Alzheimer’s

Research published in 2005 concluded resveratrol exerts “potent anti-amyloidogenic activity.”

Most recently, a double-blind, placebo-controlled study found that resveratrol, taken in highly concentrated doses, appears to stabilize levels of amyloid-beta and prevent further buildup of the protein in the brain, thereby slowing the progression of Alzheimer’s disease.

In this trial, half of the participants were given up to 1,000 mg of resveratrol concentrate daily — equivalent to the resveratrol contained in about 1,000 bottles of red wine. The other half received a placebo.

All had been diagnosed with mild or moderate Alzheimer’s disease at the onset of the study. At the end of one year, the treatment group showed no change in amyloid-beta levels in their brains, spinal fluid, or blood, which was a good sign.

Meanwhile, the placebo group showed signs of typical disease progression, including a decline in amyloid-beta in their blood and spinal fluid. It’s thought that this reduction is due to the protein being removed from other parts of the body and deposited in the brain instead.

As reported by Market Business:

“In patients with Alzheimer’s, amyloid-beta levels decrease in the cerebrospinal fluid, while deposits of the substance increase in the brain, where it becomes insoluble.

These insoluble plaques are a hallmark of the disease, which eventually leads to the death of nerve cells in the brain.

‘Somehow, resveratrol is affecting cerebrospinal amyloid levels,’ Dr. R. Scott Turner... told FoxNews.com. ‘We don’t quite fully understand why or how, but [we] think it may be related to sirtuins.’”

Resveratrol Produces Effects Similar to Calorie Restriction

Incidentally, sirtuins are proteins activated by calorie restriction, and are thought to play a role in the regulation of skeletal muscle mitochondrial function.

Studies on animals have shown that long-term calorie restriction effectively helps prevent age-related diseases, including Alzheimer’s, so this is an intriguing link.

That said, since the chief goal of this latest study was to evaluate the safety of high-dose resveratrol, additional research is required to determine whether, and to what degree, resveratrol might actually prevent mental decline.

The study did note some promising signs of cognitive benefit though. As reported by CNN:

“Even for the relatively small number of participants in the study, the researchers did see indication that resveratrol could improve cognition.

Patients in this group had slight improvements in their ability to carry out daily tasks, such as remembering to brush their teeth. And anecdotally, patients who took resveratrol told the researchers that they felt like they were maintaining their mental ability.”

Interestingly, resveratrol appears to produce biological effects similar to those of calorie restriction in another way as well. A study published in the March 2013 issue of Science demonstrates that resveratrol directly flips on a gene that stimulates production of a protein called SIRT1, which prevents disease by recharging your mitochondria (the little powerhouses inside your cells). As it turns out, calorie restriction and resveratrol exert the same effect on this SIRT1 protein.

Other Health Benefits of Resveratrol

Resveratrol is often referred to as “the fountain of youth” due to its wide-ranging health benefits. More than 600 scientific studies have found beneficial effects, covering more than 340 different diseases. In broad strokes, resveratrol has been found to exert the following actions and functions:

Broad-spectrum antimicrobial

Anti-infective

Antioxidant

Cardio-protective

Neuroprotective

Its anti-cancer properties are also well known, but many of resveratrol’s benefits appear to be related to its superior ability to reverse oxidative stress and quench inflammation. It does this by preventing your body from creating two molecules known to trigger inflammation – sphingosine kinase and phospholipase D.

Resveratrol May Be Helpful Against Depression

Inflammation is also thought to be a main player in depression. For example, researchers have found that melancholic depression, bipolar disorder, and postpartum depression are all associated with elevated levels of cytokines in combination with decreased cortisol sensitivity (cortisol is both a stress hormone and a buffer against inflammation).

As discussed in an article by Dr. Kelly Brogan, depressive symptoms can be viewed as downstream manifestations of inflammation, and recent animal research suggests resveratrol may be useful here as well. Using rats, the researchers showed that a resveratrol dose equivalent to what you’d get from six glasses of red wine effectively prevented depressive behavior in rats by blocking brain inflammation.

As reported by NewHope360:

“Susan K. Wood, Ph.D... leader of the research team, said the group’s findings are exciting because they show that resveratrol has anti-inflammatory potential in the brain, not just on levels of inflammation circulating in the body. ‘Certainly, there is a strong case being built now between clinical and preclinical work that inflammation is linked to depressive symptoms, and there is a great need for these findings to be validated in human studies,’ she said.”

Healthy Sources of Resveratrol

As mentioned earlier, drinking large quantities of red wine is not your best alternative due to the toxic effects of alcohol. If you want to boost your consumption of resveratrol, stick with natural sources like whole grape skins, raspberries, and mulberries. If you struggle with insulin resistance, consider passing on the meat of the grape as it contains a lot of extra fructose while being devoid of resveratrol.

Other whole food sources include raw cocoa and dark chocolate, but it may be difficult to get a therapeutic dose from these foods, especially since these are best eaten in moderation. Another option is to take a resveratrol supplement. In this case be sure to look for one made from a whole food complex that includes muscadine grape skin and seeds, which is where the resveratrol is concentrated.

Other Tips to Protect Your Brain Health

Resveratrol can be a powerful addition to your diet, but not without a solid nutritional foundation. The first step is making sure you’re covering the basics, detailed in my complete nutrition plan. This comprehensive guide addresses the factors underlying all chronic degenerative diseases, including heart disease, cancer, diabetes, obesity, and all types of dementia — including vascular dementia. And it is available completely free of charge.

For additional guidance about how to modify your diet for brain health in general, and Alzheimer’s prevention specifically, please see my article and interview with neurologist Dr. David Perlmutter. As a quick summary, you’ll want to address the following factors:

Avoid gluten and casein(primarily wheat and pasteurized dairy, but not dairy fat, such as butter).

Increase consumption of healthful fats, such as organic butter from raw milk, clarified butter called organic grass-fed raw butter, olives, organic virgin olive oil and coconut oil, nuts like pecans and macadamia, free-range eggs, wild Alaskan salmon, and avocado

Keep your fasting insulin levels below 3 (following the nutrition plan will help you do this); if your fasting insulin level is above three, consider limiting or eliminating your intake of grains and sugars until you optimize your insulin level Exercise regularly, including high-intensity interval training like the Peak Fitness Technique

Optimize your vitamin D levels with a combination of sensible sun exposure, vitamin D-rich foods and/or vitamin D3 supplementation along with vitamin K2, magnesium, and calcium Optimize your gut floraby regularly consuming fermented foods or taking a high quality probiotic supplement Optimize your Omega 3:6 ratio by taking high quality omega 3 oils such as krill oil and radically reducing if not completely eliminating industrial processed omega 6 oils

Consider intermittent fasting

A randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial of resveratrol for Alzheimer disease.
Turner RS, Thomas RG, Craft S, van Dyck CH, Mintzer J, Reynolds BA, Brewer JB, Rissman RA, Raman R, Aisen PS; Alzheimer's Disease Cooperative Study.
Neurology. 2015 Sep 11. pii: 10.1212/WNL.0000000000002035. [Epub ahead of print]
PMID: 26362286
http://www.neurology...0000002035.long

Abstract

OBJECTIVE:

A randomized, placebo-controlled, double-blind, multicenter 52-week phase 2 trial of resveratrol in individuals with mild to moderate Alzheimer disease (AD) examined its safety and tolerability and effects on biomarker (plasma Aß40 and Aß42, CSF Aß40, Aß42, tau, and phospho-tau 181) and volumetric MRI outcomes (primary outcomes) and clinical outcomes (secondary outcomes).

METHODS:

Participants (n = 119) were randomized to placebo or resveratrol 500 mg orally once daily (with dose escalation by 500-mg increments every 13 weeks, ending with 1,000 mg twice daily). Brain MRI and CSF collection were performed at baseline and after completion of treatment. Detailed pharmacokinetics were performed on a subset (n = 15) at baseline and weeks 13, 26, 39, and 52.

RESULTS:

Resveratrol and its major metabolites were measurable in plasma and CSF. The most common adverse events were nausea, diarrhea, and weight loss. CSF Aß40 and plasma Aß40 levels declined more in the placebo group than the resveratrol-treated group, resulting in a significant difference at week 52. Brain volume loss was increased by resveratrol treatment compared to placebo.

CONCLUSIONS:

Resveratrol was safe and well-tolerated. Resveratrol and its major metabolites penetrated the blood-brain barrier to have CNS effects. Further studies are required to interpret the biomarker changes associated with resveratrol treatment.

CLASSIFICATION OF EVIDENCE:

This study provides Class II evidence that for patients with AD resveratrol is safe, well-tolerated, and alters some AD biomarker trajectories. The study is rated Class II because more than 2 primary outcomes were designated.

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 06:46 PM

And is a compound that's a thousand times more powerful than resveratrol even healthy? So, I get the feeling a lot is happening behind the scenes and without casual public awareness until clinical trials are slowly uncovered.

Another interesting aspect is that many here seem to view resveratrol as a flub, the sale of Sinclair's company to GSK as a failure, and they've given up on the stuff. But hearing Sinclair talk I don't get the impression that GSK has given up on resveratrol at all.

 

Sinclair said in the talk above (Q&A) that he still took resveratrol last fall but that it was barely bioavailable and that there is much better (NAD approach). Maybe he means that the GSK drug in trials , I assume SRT 2104, is far more bioavailable.

 

There is a lot of bad reporting on resveratrol and potential anti-aging supplements/drugs. Bloomberg wrote on anti-aging pills and included:

 

  "In 2008, GlaxoSmithKline paid $720 million to buy Sirtris Pharmaceuticals, a biotech startup founded by Harvard professor David Sinclair that was developing drugs based on resveratrol, ... A highly publicized Nature paper had shown that mice on a high-fat diet had lived longer with resveratrol. After the study appeared, sales of resveratrol supplements rocketed from basically zero to about $100 million a year. But the drugs all flopped in human trials, and in 2013 GSK shuttered its Sirtris division and fired all but a handful of staffers."

 

But SRT2104 didn't flop in human trials and as far as I know is still a potential drug.



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Posted 19 November 2015 - 02:36 PM

I just read an interview with David Sinclair in the August 17, 2015 Washington Post:

 

"I take resveratrol as a pill with breakfast — 1,000 milligrams, a spoonful on yogurt."

 

https://www.washingt...920d_story.html


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Posted 08 December 2015 - 11:06 PM

If he's taking it as a pill, why does he sprinkle it on yogurt?


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Posted 10 December 2015 - 11:55 AM

It seems to me that the discrepancy between in-vitro and in-vivo results with Resveratrol is due to the fact that Resveratrol is broken down very fast in-vivo and its actually the metabolites of Resv that are having effects in-vivo.
I think we would do well to look into these metabolites rather than Resveratrol itself..?

Pterostilbene, a close but far more bio-available and stable relative of Resveratrol is more likely to give results similar to those seen in in-vitro Resveratrol studies..?

I did a lot of research and a write-up on Pterostilbene, of which I am rather proud:  :)

http://www.pterostilbene.com/

 

It was while researching the article that the above half baked idea began to form, but more research is required, as usual!
 


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Posted 11 December 2015 - 05:30 PM

If he's taking it as a pill, why does he sprinkle it on yogurt?

 

The article contrasts resveratrol from red wine and supplements.

 

My guess is that it was a misquote and that Sinclair was just saying he takes a supplement form and sprinkles it on his yogurt.

 

Far more pressing, is his yogurt blueberry yogurt and does he also sprinkle 100 mg of pterostilibine on it? 



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Posted 11 December 2015 - 07:35 PM

It seems to me that the discrepancy between in-vitro and in-vivo results with Resveratrol is due to the fact that Resveratrol is broken down very fast in-vivo and its actually the metabolites of Resv that are having effects in-vivo.
I think we would do well to look into these metabolites rather than Resveratrol itself..?

Pterostilbene, a close but far more bio-available and stable relative of Resveratrol is more likely to give results similar to those seen in in-vitro Resveratrol studies..?

I did a lot of research and a write-up on Pterostilbene, of which I am rather proud:   :)

http://www.pterostilbene.com/

 

It was while researching the article that the above half baked idea began to form, but more research is required, as usual!
 

 

The linked article contains 30 references, but I do feel  Tom Andre F. could have made the links clickable, or at least copy-pastable into Google.
As the author; I can remedy that somewhat with earlier, unedited, versions of the article:   :)

https://docs.google....dit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google....dit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google....dit?usp=sharing


Edited by Logic, 11 December 2015 - 07:40 PM.






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