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#1 freexf

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Posted 13 December 2015 - 02:57 PM


would like to know which one of these drugs is less harmful to the brain? I've tried both and found the zyprexa to be more effective, however the seroquel also works. I take currently 250 milligram seroquel which is about 5 milligram zyprexa. I am considering to switch the medication.

and last i would like to know when I should stop taking antipsychotics. i've heard that they are not good long-term. I've taken seroquel for three months took a break three weeks and then continued for one month. I am taking them for a psychotic disorder.

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Posted 13 December 2015 - 07:53 PM

Generally don't take a medication if you don't need it, I don't know the reason why you are taking seroquel but that should be enough to know whether or not to continuing taking it. Things like bipolar and schizophrenia don't just go away so you need to be careful when stopping. If it is bipolar you are more likely to have alternatives.

 

Most people find really bad weight gain on zyprexa but overall less side effects than seroquel, your call.



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#3 freexf

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Posted 14 December 2015 - 07:38 AM

Look at the last sentence of my first post. I mentioned the reason for taking these drugs.

 

Weight gain is absolutely no problem. and I would be happy to sleep better than on seroquel.

 

so 1mg Zyprexa equals 50mg seroquel. wouldn't that mean that they are excactly the same strong?



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Posted 14 December 2015 - 09:53 AM

No gaurantees you would sleep better on zyprexa, zyprexa is less sedating and seroquel is sometimes used off label for insomnia. 

I don't know exactly what you mean by same strength.



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Posted 17 December 2015 - 11:23 AM

If you can try Latuda (Lurasidone). Best medication for SZ's to date, IMHO.


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Posted 18 December 2015 - 11:08 AM

Lurasidone definatly has a clear pharmacological profile..

 

Out of them too I preferred Seroquel xr as that didn't inhibit my stims like olanzapine, but if it wasn't for that im not sure what I prefer, they both have differened therapeutic effects.


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Posted 21 December 2015 - 08:30 PM

Thanks, latuda is unfortunately Not paid by the insurance in my country. I have to stay at the seroquel or Zyprexa.

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 09:16 PM

Somehow I don't like the neuroleptics (dopamine antagonists) altogether, be it the typicals or the atypicals. But I respond unusually badly to them too.

 

Do you get actual benefits from taking them, or is it 'just' that a possible future psychotic episode should be prevented?

There are interesting unconventional things that could help, sarcosine being one that's even freely available as a supplement, but also pregabalin (lyrica) or memantine could help against psychosis. There is some evidence that a subgroup of psychosis are rather partial seizures and for these the neuroleptics won't do any good.



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Posted 23 December 2015 - 04:32 PM

In contrast to popular beleive antipsychotics do work for negative symptions in shizophrenia too, they all have differened advantages in ways they help a patient, the improvement in negatives from olanzapine are completely differened from seroquel so imo aps can have additive effects when combined in low doses.







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