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Posted 01 February 2016 - 01:09 PM


The popular scientific press here looks at the work of 21st Century Medicine on cryopreservation. Specifically, the topic is the present efforts to provide conclusive proof that low-temperature vitrification of tissue, the process employed at Alcor and other cryonics providers, maintains the fine structures of the brain considered to encode the data of the mind, such as memory. For the many who will die prior to the advent of rejuvenation biotechnologies, this is the only shot at a longer life in the future, and it is to our shame as a society that so few choose this option over oblivion and the grave.

It is interesting to note that many of the people in this field, and their supporters, see the end goal as scanning and transcription of the data encoded in a stored brain into an emulated mind running in software. This is as opposed to restoration and repair of the original tissue via advanced forms of molecular nanotechnology and tissue engineering. The assumption of an emulated copy is very much in evidence in this article. I think this to be a profoundly mistaken strategic goal, as a copy of you is not you.

The soul is the pattern of information that represents you - your thoughts, memories and personality - your self. There is no scientific evidence that something like soul stuff exists beyond the brain's own hardwiring, so I was curious to visit the laboratories of 21st Century Medicine in Fontana, Calif., to see for myself an attempt to preserve a brain's connectome - the comprehensive diagram of all neural synaptic connections. This medical research company specializes in the cryopreservation of human organs and tissues using cryoprotectants (antifreeze). In 2009, for example, the facility's chief research scientist Gregory M. Fahy published a paper documenting how his team successfully transplanted a rewarmed rabbit kidney after it had been cryoprotected and frozen to −135 degrees Celsius through the process of vitrification, "in which the liquids in a living system are converted into the glassy state at low temperatures."

I witnessed the infusion of a rabbit brain through its carotid arteries with a fixative agent called glutaraldehyde, which binds proteins together into a solid gel. The brain was then removed and saturated in ethylene glycol, a cryoprotective agent eliminating ice formation and allowing safe storage at −130 degrees C as a glasslike, inert solid. At that temperature, chemical reactions are so attenuated that it could be stored for millennia. Think of a book in epoxy resin hardened into a solid block of plastic. "You're never going to open the book again, but if you can prove that the epoxy doesn't dissolve the ink the book is written with, you can demonstrate that all the words in the book must still be there ... and you might be able to carefully slice it apart, scan in all the pages, and print/bind a new book with the same words." The rabbit brain circuitry he examined through a 3-D scanning electron microscope "looks well preserved, undamaged, and it is easy to trace the synaptic connections between the neurons."

Link: http://www.scientifi...s-live-forever/


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Posted 01 February 2016 - 05:01 PM

This is one of the reasons why I'm opposed to cryopreservation at the moment.

Until a clear charter and maybe even a law is in place that can define and enforce and protect your rights in death as to what you're getting preserved for it's a meaningless endeavor.

That's a side effect from the lack of political acceptance we receive as a group, which is unfortunate. The West prides itself for religious freedom and yet it seems to be quite comfortable at ignoring the freedom of any group which is not armed and dangerous.

 

I hope the next decades will bring a biomedical revolution so the focus can be steered back to more biological ideals of transhumanism, the same way this era of digital revolution has made this philosophically questionable idea of digitizing humans so acceptable for transhumanists.

 

 


Edited by corb, 01 February 2016 - 05:02 PM.

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Posted 01 February 2016 - 07:56 PM

 

this is the only shot at a longer life in the future, and it is to our shame as a society that so few choose this option over oblivion and the grave.

 

 

People who choose not to be cryopreserved are making their own free choice.  I thought you were into that.



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Posted 01 February 2016 - 09:51 PM

It's a shame that they make that choice for them. For the planet it might be a good thing. There are not many would be cryonics patients/guinea pigs. It is also a shame for their friends and relatives but until we have safe space travel proably just as well. Personally I would like more people to value their own lives more highly and buy cryonics but obviously it would be morally wrong to force people to sign up
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Posted 02 February 2016 - 08:30 AM

This is one of the reasons why I'm opposed to cryopreservation at the moment.

Until a clear charter and maybe even a law is in place that can define and enforce and protect your rights in death as to what you're getting preserved for it's a meaningless endeavor.

 

Huh?? People should die forever in order to avoid some future unknown danger to them??


Edited by Antonio2014, 02 February 2016 - 08:31 AM.

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Posted 02 February 2016 - 08:59 AM

 

This is one of the reasons why I'm opposed to cryopreservation at the moment.

Until a clear charter and maybe even a law is in place that can define and enforce and protect your rights in death as to what you're getting preserved for it's a meaningless endeavor.

 

Huh?? People should die forever in order to avoid some future unknown danger to them??

 

 

First off it's not a future unknown danger, most cryopreserving companies have no intention of reviving anyone.

Second you're thinking about today.

 

Let's say I'm dying in 50 years. I could either:

a)Waste money (50-100K $ last time I checked) on getting your brain turned into a resin cast and sliced up, which begs the question why they even bother preserving the bodies, but whatever.

or

b)Use the money for medical tourism and some radical therapy that could give you an extra 20 years

 

I prefer the guaranteed extra 20 years over a guaranteed nothing.


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Posted 03 February 2016 - 08:41 AM

First off it's not a future unknown danger, most cryopreserving companies have no intention of reviving anyone.

 

That's insulting and false.

 

Second you're thinking about today.

 

Of course I'm thinking about today. I could die today, and you too, and anybody here.

 

Let's say I'm dying in 50 years. I could either:

a)Waste money (50-100K $ last time I checked) on getting your brain turned into a resin cast and sliced up, which begs the question why they even bother preserving the bodies, but whatever.

 

Huh? That's not what cryonics organizations do when you sign a cryonics contract. How can you critizice cryonics while ignoring even basic concepts?

 

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What you are talking about is plastination. It has nothing to do with cryonics and can't be applied after a cryonics procedure.

 

b)Use the money for medical tourism and some radical therapy that could give you an extra 20 years

 

Or you can go to Lourdes and pray to Virgin Mary in order that she extends your life...


Edited by Antonio2014, 03 February 2016 - 08:46 AM.

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