21 replies to this topic

[nebben]

Hi,

Where can you buy about 20 grams of 5-HTP shipping internationally, please?


Greetings,
nebben

[bgwowk]

I would stay away from 5-HTP. Read

http://yarchive.net/med/5-htp.html

---BrianW

[purerealm]

Why would you stay away from 5-htp? From what I gather from reading the first discussion, just don't stack it with any b6, right?

[bgwowk]

But who wants to restrict B6 given its health benefits? Even the amount in a multivitamin could cause 5-HTP to convert to serotonin on the wrong side of the blood brain barrier.

Best to take tryptophan instead of 5-HTP and avoid the heart risk all together.

---BrianW

[ajnast4r]

Why would you stay away from 5-htp? From what I gather from reading the first discussion, just don't stack it with any b6, right?

no it would have to be taken 12 or more hours apart... its just not reasonable nor is it in my opinion safe.

you can get good USP trade tryptophan reasonably cheap now

[purerealm]

oh I didn't read that part about it not being safe. So now I'm wondering, what is the FDA doing approving of 5-htp when a commonly used vitamin such as B6 will cause heart complicated when used together. Didn't they also ban trytophan because of some bad batch made from Japan?

[bgwowk]

The FDA approved 5-HTP? When, for what, and what company made the application? Just because the FDA allows something to be sold because it occurs naturally doesn't mean the FDA has "approved" it, or that it's incapable of doing harm. Government approval is not necessary for a natural substance to be sold (thank God).

Last time I looked, tryptophan can be purchased. It just can't be sold for human use after the Japan fiasco. What humans who buy it actually do with it is their business.

Nutraceutical buyers should always remember that as long as the field remains unregulated (as it should be), the responsibility for investigating safety, efficacy, and product quality is entirely up to the buyer. The infamous problem with tryptophan was apparently quality. The problem with 5-HTP is apparently intrinsic safety. There is no free lunch.

---BrianW

[beyond infinity]

About a year ago I took a high recreational dose of Ritalin, as well as 5-htp, an SSRI, phenibut, and a high dose of Mucuna Pruriens extract (L-Dopa etc.). I suffered a horrible comedown from which I never recovered. For 9 months after I had terrible flatness; dullness of the mind. Then I started taking 5-htp and within a couple of days on 100mg x2 /day I was feeling my old self again. It is a life save for me. To hear this news is awful. The question is, how much serotinin in the body is too much, and how much 5-htp would you have to take for it to get to that level?
If I take a 5-HIAA test then how would I know if I had too much serotonin? Would the fact that the 5-htp works so well for me mean that most of it crosses the blood brain barrier perhaps?

[bgwowk]

Sorry, I don't know the answers to your questions, beyond infinity. Have you tried alternative methods to elevate serotonin, such as SSRIs or tryptophan? Have you tried reducing your dose of 5-HTP to see if you brain can adapt? Maybe after a year it no longer really needs a chemical crutch, and would up-regulate its own serotonin given a chance.

Anyway, at least you know not to take B6 supplements if you are taking 5-HTP.

---BrianW

[purerealm]

Does the fact that B6 is water-soluble have any relevancy? Maybe you can switch off days of taking B6 and 5-htp, or just switch to trytophan. Also, how is your sleep?

[nebben]

This article by monster maker nicely wraps up the 5-htp discussion. Especially in the note at the end of the article.
But they do not sell powder.

Edited by nebben, 16 January 2006 - 03:39 PM.

[uniquenutrition]

We ship 5-HTP powder internationally.


Sincerely Steve Sliwa
President
Unique Nutrition
www.uniquenutrition.net

[xanadu]

I see you have 5htp for $1 a gram. That's the best price I think I've seen on it. I believe it's the first time I saw it offered in bulk. Finally a break on 5htp.

[uniquenutrition]

Within 6 months we expect to have nearly every cognitive/brain related nutrient available in capsules and powder form.


Thanks for the comment we do our best.


Sincerely Steve Sliwa

[nebben]

Will you have Rasagiline powder?

[uniquenutrition]

We have a source of it but no interest in carrying it anytime soon.


Sincerely Steve Sliwa

[nebben]

and deprenyl?

[uniquenutrition]

and deprenyl?

Perhaps later in the year but its not high on our list.


Sincerely Steve Sliwa
President
Unique Nutrition
www.uniquenutrition.net

[nebben]

what is high on your list?

Edited by nebben, 16 January 2006 - 08:29 PM.

[nebben]

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Edited by nebben, 17 January 2006 - 03:41 PM.

[nebben]

It could be delivered with a special scoop or as a mixture, but maybe deprenyl is too dangerous anyway.

Edited by nebben, 17 January 2006 - 08:54 PM.