"Freeze Me" to air tonight
bgwowk 20 Sep 2006
This will be the American edit of the "Death in the Deep Freeze" Zig Zag documentary that recently aired in the UK. It is being shown on the National Geographic channel program "Naked Science" at 10:00 PM Wednesday Sept. 20. Additional air dates at the link below.
http://channel.natio...0609202200.html
http://channel.natio...0609202200.html
JohnDoe1234 21 Sep 2006
Just watched it on google video... pretty interesting, and informative!
Karomesis 21 Sep 2006
just watched it. great show.
Brian, do you think the show conveyed the general potential of cryonics?
Brian, do you think the show conveyed the general potential of cryonics?
JonesGuy 21 Sep 2006
Does the Google video violate copyright? Can I ethically watch it there, or do I have to find some way to pay for the video?
JonesGuy 21 Sep 2006
Damnit, I've already half-watched it (listened to it, actually).
There are some commercials left it, so I was exposed to them.
There are some commercials left it, so I was exposed to them.
bgwowk 21 Sep 2006
I didn't see the American version last night, but I heard that it was substantially the same as the British version with "mismatched" American narration in place of the original British. That's disappointing because I was hoping the more gory parts would be edited out. Like one of those real life ER shows, it's not something that kids can watch.
There are so many layers of theory involved in cryonics that it may be impossible to properly deal with the subject in a one hour show aimed at mass audiences. Maybe someday an extraordinary bright journalist unburdened by cultural prejudices will get the best spokespeople and some informed critics together and do it right.
You know, it's funny. The general reaction I've heard from people not very familiar with cryonics is that they found the show fascinating. In contrast, the general reaction from people who know cryonics well seems to be disappointment. One Alcor official believes the show is actively damaging, and should not be promoted. In my own case, I think the documentary failed to communicate the central idea of cryonics, which is that declarations of death in contemporary medicine are essentially arbitrary, and that the objective of cryonics is to preserve *THIS* life, not buy a second life after death. I also found the quality of the scientific discussion of what cryonics proposes to do to be low (no discussion of ischemic injury, brain cryopreservation, diversity of proposed repair strategies, or information theoretic death). There was also the usual problem of woefully uninformed critics attacking strawmen. It was mostly a human interest story....just watched it. great show.
Brian, do you think the show conveyed the general potential of cryonics?
There are so many layers of theory involved in cryonics that it may be impossible to properly deal with the subject in a one hour show aimed at mass audiences. Maybe someday an extraordinary bright journalist unburdened by cultural prejudices will get the best spokespeople and some informed critics together and do it right.
Athanasios 22 Sep 2006
In my own case, I think the documentary failed to communicate the central idea of cryonics, which is that declarations of death in contemporary medicine are essentially arbitrary, and that the objective of cryonics is to preserve *THIS* life, not buy a second life after death.
That is the only way I have communicated cryonics to people successfully. One reason, is it is a very powerful message that takes almost no time to say. Another is when someone finds out that I am signed up, they always say something about "after you are dead" which gives me an opening to explain it. It also puts the focus on the science of time of death, not on a human in an ice cube. So, usually it goes from, "what you are doing that?", to " insert joke here containing the word dead", to them being interested in the topic.
Karomesis 23 Sep 2006
Is it essentially a case of .......nanotech, game over?
I mean, if freitas conceptions come to fruition, how much further would nanotech need to progress to nake reanimation feasible on a cellular level?
I mean, if freitas conceptions come to fruition, how much further would nanotech need to progress to nake reanimation feasible on a cellular level?
garethnelsonuk 27 Sep 2006
Nanotech + insanely high levels of data processing capability and processing power. Though mature nanotech should speed up the development of appropiate computing power immensely.