Anti-alzheimer/general well being stack, i...
HappyCamper 16 Jan 2008
This is a basic stack for me, my brother and his wife as well as for my mother and father. Mother and father 67 yrs old, good general health, the rest ~35 yrs old, good general health. Aim for supplementation: increased general well being, improved memory function, alzheimerprevention and antioxidant functions. It's not very impressive at the moment, but I'll add one supplement at a time, here's the basic stack:
*EPA/DHA 1200 mg/800 mg
*Astaxanthin 4 mg
*Vinpocetine 10 mg
*Multivitamin ABC Plus Senior OR
Daily One Plus
First step is optimizing the vinpocetine dose, somewhere around 10-40 mg/daily depending on results. Second is to add Gingko to see if there's any synergism with the vinpocetine. Then in the following order:
S-PS 300-600 mg daily
Oxiracetam+choline source (input regarding dose etc. needed!)
Hydergine (input same as above!)
Any more antioxidants? Resveratrol? Any more antialzheimerspecifik supplements?
Thanx for a great forum!
balance 16 Jan 2008
Take it easy on the alcohol and soft drinks, and you should be fine.
Funny, i recently read this:
http://www.scienceda...80102222901.htm
It perfectly complemented my theory that alcohol is a feminine drink, and makes you feminine in certain ways. The composition of alcohol, it's effects on the body and mind is what I'm talking about. Yet people always associate it with males and a manly drink haha. Same with meat. Supposedly for the super male hunters, yet females benefit more from meat than males as far as i'm concerned, due to THEM being the iron deficient half of the planet, whereas the males are the iron overload group.
Edited by piet3r, 16 January 2008 - 09:12 PM.
health_nutty 16 Jan 2008
http://www.neuroreport.com/pt/re/neurorepo...#33;8091!-1
http://www.blackwell...59.2004.02800.x
2) Exercise
http://alzheimers.ab...-alzheimers.htm
3) Limit exposure to aluminum (anti-persperients, cookware, salt) to be on the safe side.
http://www.alzheimer...p?documentID=99
4) Keep your mind active (esp once you retire).
http://www.webmd.com...heimers-disease
Edit: added links
Edited by health_nutty, 16 January 2008 - 10:08 PM.
niner 17 Jan 2008
HappyCamper 21 Jan 2008
How to spread the supplementation over the day? I've also added a few more supps to the basic stack. I'll compound custom capsules to be used. ** is only my father who is at risk for alz (runs in the family), user of swedish wet snuff since 50 years (extremely high doses of nicotine every day!)
Morning, with breakfast:
*EPA/DHA 600 mg/400 mg
*astaxanthin 4 mg
*vinpocetine 10 mg-20 mg
*multivitamin (ABC Plus Senior OR
Daily One Plus)
*protein shake (20-30 grams whey isolate, Volactive Whey 80)
*S-PS (phosphatidylserine) 200 mg (capsule 1)
*carnosine 500 mg (capsule 1)
*gingko biloba 120 mg (capsule 2)
*resveratrol 98% 250 mg (capsule 2)
*lechitine ~a spoonful
*choline bitartrate 500 mg (capsule 3)
*piracetam 700 mg (capsule 3)
*oxiracetam 300 mg (capsule 3)
**simvastatin 20 mg (statin, cholesterol lowering)
**lexapro 20 mg
**toprol (seloken, beta-blocker) 50 mg
**deprenyl 2,5 mg
**ibuprophen 200 mg
Midday:
*vinpocetine 10-20 mg
*choline bitartrate 500 mg (capsule 3)
*piracetam 700 mg (capsule 3)
*oxiracetam 300 mg (capsule 3)
*choline bitartrate 500 mg (capsule 3)
**hydergine 5 mg
**deprenyl 2,5 mg
Evening:
*EPA/DHA 600 mg/400 mg
*carnosine 500 mg (capsule 1)
*S-PS 200 mg (capsule 1)
*gingko biloba 120 mg (capsule 2)
*resveratrol 98 % 250 mg (capsule 2)
**ibuprophen 200 mg
Edited by HappyCamper, 21 January 2008 - 11:08 PM.
balance 21 Jan 2008
I'd take the carnosine in a single 1000mg dose. Maybe replace the lecithin by r-dihydro-lipoic acid. The carnitine-lipoic acid combination has shown to be incredible candy for your brain, definitely worth adding/replacing in your regimen. Btw, for convenience, have you seen lef sells a ginkgo that has 120mg in 1 capsule. Also, keep in mind it's a strong blood thinner, especially at 240mg, and if you have the ibuprofen and fish oil in there too... might not be very safe in the long run, also keep in mind what about if he has an accident and goes in for immediate surgery in the hospital.. that is always something overlooked for when people take a lot of blood thinners, they know they're safe, but what about an unforeseen accident.
I'm a big fan of pomegranate for a while now, but DukeNukem has convinced me to keep it in my regimen. I'd recommend the same for your father. Inositol might aid with your choline requirements too btw. Might help you save some supplements (effort/convenience) and money.
Like niner said, put some vitamin d3 in there. Be sure to get it in softgels. 1000-2000IU up to 5000IU total intake from all supplements and diet should be good. Hopefully he will be open for getting some blood tests done just in case.
Edited by piet3r, 21 January 2008 - 11:24 PM.
HappyCamper 22 Jan 2008
Morning
*r-ala 200 mg
Midday
*1000 mg carnosine (none evening and morning)
*200 mg r-ala
Ibuprophen is gambling, but it shouldn't be toxic to the kidneys even after prolonged use at those doses. There are very impressive studies indicating that use of NSAID medications (at least daily during two years) lowers the risk of getting alz quite a lot. Is d-vitamin in the form of ergocalciferol drops ok? Those are very cheap over here (Sweden) and one small bottle is like 250 000 I.U. My aim with the racetams is to find a good combo between pi, oxi, ani and pram. Supps are extremely expensive here, so the more esoteric ones (pram, res etc.) I import from China and (usually!) have a friend analyze for heavy metals and melting point (basic analysis) and sometimes with HPLC etc. BTW, I analyse them myself too sometimes, studying to become a pharmacist. The bloodthinning is a problem with acute surgery, so I'll make a small necklace saying "on bloodthinning meds" in the workshop tomorrow.
Edited by HappyCamper, 22 January 2008 - 01:04 AM.
health_nutty 28 Jan 2008
Changes as follow:
Morning
*r-ala 200 mg
Midday
*1000 mg carnosine (none evening and morning)
*200 mg r-ala
Ibuprophen is gambling, but it shouldn't be toxic to the kidneys even after prolonged use at those doses. There are very impressive studies indicating that use of NSAID medications (at least daily during two years) lowers the risk of getting alz quite a lot. Is d-vitamin in the form of ergocalciferol drops ok? Those are very cheap over here (Sweden) and one small bottle is like 250 000 I.U. My aim with the racetams is to find a good combo between pi, oxi, ani and pram. Supps are extremely expensive here, so the more esoteric ones (pram, res etc.) I import from China and (usually!) have a friend analyze for heavy metals and melting point (basic analysis) and sometimes with HPLC etc. BTW, I analyse them myself too sometimes, studying to become a pharmacist. The bloodthinning is a problem with acute surgery, so I'll make a small necklace saying "on bloodthinning meds" in the workshop tomorrow.
I would replace the ibuprophen with baby aspirin. (and add turmeric).
Christopher5 29 Jan 2008
http://gaiahealth.net/Alzheimers.html
And
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(edited by Matthias: commercial link removed)
Edited by Matthias, 27 July 2008 - 08:52 AM.
platypus 29 Jan 2008
Is this really a concern? I take 240mg of Ginkgo, fish oil, E-vitamins and other blood thinners. What would be the symptoms of a long-term problem? I do bruise quite easily but if I get cut the wound closes normally.Btw, for convenience, have you seen lef sells a ginkgo that has 120mg in 1 capsule. Also, keep in mind it's a strong blood thinner, especially at 240mg, and if you have the ibuprofen and fish oil in there too... might not be very safe in the long run, also keep in mind what about if he has an accident and goes in for immediate surgery in the hospital.. that is always something overlooked for when people take a lot of blood thinners, they know they're safe, but what about an unforeseen accident.
Edited by platypus, 30 January 2008 - 01:00 PM.
health_nutty 30 Jan 2008
Is this really a concern? I take 240mg of Ginkgo, fish oil, E-vitamins and other blood thinners. What would be the symptoms of a long-term problem? I do bruise quite easily but if I get cut the would closes normally.Btw, for convenience, have you seen lef sells a ginkgo that has 120mg in 1 capsule. Also, keep in mind it's a strong blood thinner, especially at 240mg, and if you have the ibuprofen and fish oil in there too... might not be very safe in the long run, also keep in mind what about if he has an accident and goes in for immediate surgery in the hospital.. that is always something overlooked for when people take a lot of blood thinners, they know they're safe, but what about an unforeseen accident.
Based on the medical advice of doctors giving patients aspirin therapy you should look for more than normal bleeding from minor cuts (such as when flossing or when shaving).
balance 30 Jan 2008
outsider 16 Feb 2008
Edited by outsider, 16 February 2008 - 05:39 AM.