Cost Justifying Cryonic Research
AIGuy
25 Oct 2002
It seems like to have breakthroughs in both getting down the cost on Cryonics as well as researching the proper way of freezing tissue with out destroying it in the process that large amounts of dollars would need to be expended.
To get research dollars allocated to cryonics a case for it's need would have to be made.
Borrowing from science fiction:
1: One use for Cryonics would be deep space exploration.
2: Another could be cryonicly suspending death row inmates to both reduce cost and to allow for the resusitation if our science ever advances to the place where they could be treated for whatever mental condition they have that caused them to commit violence in the first place. Or we perhaps would choose to resusitate them on some far off planet that we wanted to colonize. Similar to how the British colonized Australia. The cost for keeping maximum security prisoners is very high. I would suppose cryonics would be much less expensive.
3: Another would be to suspend patients with currently incurable diseases.
4: And the current and only legal reason that the person has already died and some day we may be able to bring them back.
Are there any other reasons we could add to this list?
Are there any research institutes currently doing active cryonic research today?
To get research dollars allocated to cryonics a case for it's need would have to be made.
Borrowing from science fiction:
1: One use for Cryonics would be deep space exploration.
2: Another could be cryonicly suspending death row inmates to both reduce cost and to allow for the resusitation if our science ever advances to the place where they could be treated for whatever mental condition they have that caused them to commit violence in the first place. Or we perhaps would choose to resusitate them on some far off planet that we wanted to colonize. Similar to how the British colonized Australia. The cost for keeping maximum security prisoners is very high. I would suppose cryonics would be much less expensive.
3: Another would be to suspend patients with currently incurable diseases.
4: And the current and only legal reason that the person has already died and some day we may be able to bring them back.
Are there any other reasons we could add to this list?
Are there any research institutes currently doing active cryonic research today?
Lazarus Long
25 Oct 2002
I have been suggesting an offshoot technology in "Stem Cells" and other topics that would use a more moderate profit making approach to develop a stronger industrialized base and encourage R&D from that more secure platform along with improved PR.
Start smaller by preserving Stem Cell tissue and Bone Marrow for Cancer Patients. Develop a Tissue cultivation tech that focuses on methods for preserving Cells in smaller containment along with less deterioration and test the methods over shorter spans, 5 to 30 years. And work specifically on higher storage temperatures that do not crystalize and shatter (lyse) blood cells.
This may even be fundable by the Insurance Industry because this hooks up with approved treatments and provides DNA Type Matched tissues for Cancer Patients later if they relapse. The period of remission can be used for harvesting Stem Cells and cultivating the Bone Marrow (along with advanced Stem Cell applications) for later reimplantation but after a base quantity is obtained the core sample is frozen in at least two parts, the first are the cells necessary for future cultivation, and second in Treament packets intended for reimplantation.
See what I am getting at? Think smaller to build a more secure foundation for the Industry first and simultaneously develop Market Capital to devote to developinog laboratories and techniques to advance the technology.
Start smaller by preserving Stem Cell tissue and Bone Marrow for Cancer Patients. Develop a Tissue cultivation tech that focuses on methods for preserving Cells in smaller containment along with less deterioration and test the methods over shorter spans, 5 to 30 years. And work specifically on higher storage temperatures that do not crystalize and shatter (lyse) blood cells.
This may even be fundable by the Insurance Industry because this hooks up with approved treatments and provides DNA Type Matched tissues for Cancer Patients later if they relapse. The period of remission can be used for harvesting Stem Cells and cultivating the Bone Marrow (along with advanced Stem Cell applications) for later reimplantation but after a base quantity is obtained the core sample is frozen in at least two parts, the first are the cells necessary for future cultivation, and second in Treament packets intended for reimplantation.
See what I am getting at? Think smaller to build a more secure foundation for the Industry first and simultaneously develop Market Capital to devote to developinog laboratories and techniques to advance the technology.
caliban
25 Oct 2002
AIGuy:
5: Someone who can believe in cryonics is less likely to engage in antisocial behavior. Traditionally, morality was based in part on the promise (or threat) of an afterlife. Now that the WalhallaHadesHeavenHellNirvanaHuntinggrounds vision is less convincing for many, cryonics is a great way to pacify the masses.
As Laz has hinted at, the bulk of research in cryonics is done on freezing cells and tissues. There are a number of institutes and companies researching this.
When it comes to full body human cryonics, I am not aware of any other people doing research anymore other then the cryonics providers.
Are there any other reasons we could add to this list?
5: Someone who can believe in cryonics is less likely to engage in antisocial behavior. Traditionally, morality was based in part on the promise (or threat) of an afterlife. Now that the WalhallaHadesHeavenHellNirvanaHuntinggrounds vision is less convincing for many, cryonics is a great way to pacify the masses.
Are there any research institutes currently doing active cryonic research today?
As Laz has hinted at, the bulk of research in cryonics is done on freezing cells and tissues. There are a number of institutes and companies researching this.
When it comes to full body human cryonics, I am not aware of any other people doing research anymore other then the cryonics providers.
