CTD Labs Marketing Noopept as "Legal A...
fql 30 Sep 2012
What do you guys say about this? It's nothing like adderall.
I will say their price seems to be decent especially when it's already capped ($25 for 50 tabs), so might be worth buying for convenience.
And I hope Noopept doesn't get banned, because I have a feeling it will be in pre-workouts soon cause Noopept + Craze is a good combo. Noopept enriches my music at the gym.
Edited by juryben, 30 September 2012 - 06:58 PM.
protoject 30 Sep 2012
Edited by protoject, 30 September 2012 - 08:48 PM.
protoject 30 Sep 2012
vali 30 Sep 2012
SummerUser 01 Oct 2012
Btw I use noopept to fight anxiety. It gives me an ok mental state, with great tolerance to stress.
Edited by SummerUser, 01 October 2012 - 03:49 PM.
Raza 01 Oct 2012
gizmobrain 01 Oct 2012
The public is largely ignorant of the actual method of action of most all pharmaceuticals, or basic neurochemistry. Even if they've heard the words, they usually have the wrong impression of what they mean. If you don't believe me, ask one of your non-nootropic interested friends what "dopamine" is.
Edited by zrbarnes, 01 October 2012 - 07:09 PM.
golden1 01 Oct 2012
Its not going to get noopept banned though, the government cares about banning things that are abusable and one guy's sales pitch isn't going to have anyone voting to ban noopept. If it were something similar in structure to amphetamine, like ladastan or w/e or carphedon maybe, but still a slim chance in my opinion. Unless someone in government sees banning it as something positive to put on their record to boost their relationship with the majority of ignorant americans, it's unlikely they care.. funny(and shitty) how it works..
Raza 01 Oct 2012
Daruman 01 Oct 2012
I honestly don't think this could ever have an impact on its legality. Or even difficulty to obtain.
Tubemode 01 Oct 2012
The first thing that comes to the layman's mind when talking about 'study drugs' is Ritalin and/or Adderall. So don't chalk it up to a conspiracy. Blame it on his ignorance.
And again, no, I don't see any of the other Racetams being banned in the future. The FDA usually bans supplements for two reasons:
1. It is being sold as a pharmaceutical drug within the US market.
2. They've caused deaths in the past.
golden1 01 Oct 2012
Tubemode 01 Oct 2012
Apart from Piracetam, we also have DMAA and ephedrine. Those two have killed people in the past.
As you can see though, Aniracetam, Oxiracetam and all the other Racetams have remained relatively untouched.
gizmobrain 01 Oct 2012
golden1 01 Oct 2012
also looking at the warning letter again, it seems I'm right as they focus on smartpowders wording and claims..?
Edited by golden1, 01 October 2012 - 09:42 PM.
Tubemode 01 Oct 2012
Read again:
The claims listed above make clear that "Smart Powders Piracetam" and "Primaforce Piracetam," are intended to affect the structure or any function of the body of man or other animals. Accordingly, these ·products are drugs, under section 201(g)(1)© of the Act, 21 U.S.C. § 321(g)(1)©, because they are not foods and they are intended to affect the structure or any function of the body. Moreover, these products are new drugs as defined by section 201(p) of the Act, 21 U.S.C. § 321(p), because they are not generally recognized as safe and effective for use under the conditions prescribed, recommended, or suggested in their labeling.
golden1 01 Oct 2012
intentionAccordingly, these ·products are drugs, under section 201(g)(1)© of the Act, 21 U.S.C. § 321(g)(1)©, because they are not foods and they are intended to affect the structure or any function of the body.
labelingMoreover, these products are new drugs as defined by section 201(p) of the Act, 21 U.S.C. § 321(p), because they are not generally recognized as safe and effective for use under the conditions prescribed, recommended, or suggested in their labeling.
Edited by golden1, 01 October 2012 - 10:05 PM.
Tubemode 01 Oct 2012
The trouble SP and all the other vendors got into had nothing to do with labeling and/or their wording. You have to remember that SP was not the only company which had to stop selling Piracetam. SNS had to stop selling Piracetam as well, and this is why:
Piracetam was re-classified as a drug by the FDA. Which means that all companies apart from those with a pharmaceutical license were violating laws by selling the substance. The FDA's main contention is that Piracetam is not a dietary supplement, it is a drug, and it should not be labeled or sold as such.
Even if SP did label it as a drug, they still wouldn't be able to sell it anyway since it is a drug, which is the main reason why all other major suppliers stopped production.
Edited by Tubemode, 01 October 2012 - 10:20 PM.
golden1 02 Oct 2012
Also, yes they state this, but.. "it should not be labeled or sold as such".. so is it not the labeling in the end anyway in your interpretation? I don't get it.The FDA's main contention is that Piracetam is not a dietary supplement, it is a drug, and it should not be labeled or sold as such.
I think saying it had nothing at all to do with their wording/labeling is misleading whether the chemical itself is "classified as a drug" or not. Just my opinion though.
I'll have to leave it there because it really doesn't matter to me, but you may be right.. it's just not how I read the situation.
Lemon. 30 Jul 2013
Wu Hang 31 Jul 2013
Noopet is strong in its own right, but it's nothing like Adderall, and let's be honest, only Adderall feels like Adderall,
Wu Hang 31 Jul 2013
SP was not the only company to suffer from this issue. Of note is SNS as well, arguably one of the most recognizable companies from a Piracetam supplier standpoint. Had very little to do with these 'claims'. The FDA simply didn't want them peddling Piracetam because the stuff is also a pharmaceutical drug.
Apart from Piracetam, we also have DMAA and ephedrine. Those two have killed people in the past.
As you can see though, Aniracetam, Oxiracetam and all the other Racetams have remained relatively untouched.
Let it be a warning guys, don't advertise these shits too loudly, it's cool to let your friend know about it, but it's not cool to make it too popular that FDA hates it.