TDCS out for purchase
travis_w 15 May 2013
I've long been a lurker, reading lots of nootropics posts and using them to make my own purchases. I just got an email this morning because I was on the mailing list of the foc.us TDCS. They are shipping the units in July and have a limited supply (5k units worldwide).
I just wanted to give something back so I thought I'd post finally and let you guys know they are up for purchase so you could reserve one before they all get taken Just search for foc.us tdcs on google and you'll find the site (can't post a link yet).
Also, if you purchase one and send emails/links to people you can get a possible discount on your purchase, and a huge discount if they buy one. If anyone plans on buying one (I already did) please send me a message with your email so I can send the link to you. I think that you can send 3 links and get a 50 US dollar reduction for each link you send that makes a purchase. If I get more than three people responding I will forward email addresses to some of the people that respond so they can use those emails to send their own links.
Thanks guys I hope the tdcs works. I'm glad a non-DIY version is finally available.
Travis
soulfiremage 15 May 2013
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formergenius 15 May 2013
I'll PM you once I round up the cash.
travis_w 15 May 2013
Also, for the record, one person has purchased from my referral, so if soulfiremage is correct then I only need one more purchase from referral to reach the max of $150 reduction and I will start forwarding email addresses to others so I can help reduce the prices of yours too.
lostfalco 15 May 2013
soulfiremage, can you submit more than three email referrals? On my little purchase page it has three slots for emails you have submitted with a title "You have submitted the following X emails". I was afraid to send emails out to people if I am not sure they are buying.
Also, for the record, one person has purchased from my referral, so if soulfiremage is correct then I only need one more purchase from referral to reach the max of $150 reduction and I will start forwarding email addresses to others so I can help reduce the prices of yours too.
You guys are awesome. I bought mine last night per your reminder. Been on this mailing list since last June. It said i was like 208 or something. Please forward some email addresses my way if you have extras. I'd really appreciate it.
travis_w 15 May 2013
Yeah I bought mine this morning and it said I was #133. Odd that you got yours last night and it said 208 lol.
travis_w 16 May 2013
Edit: The model they are using to advertise is so hilarious.
Edited by travis_w, 16 May 2013 - 12:04 AM.
kylehere 16 May 2013
How's the waiting list in terms of people waiting on referrals for the discount?
Edited by kylehere, 16 May 2013 - 12:43 AM.
travis_w 16 May 2013
kylehere 16 May 2013
I'm order #228, so it looks like these are going fast.
Also, if anyone who posted above me has superfluous emails to share, please do
travis_w 16 May 2013
Edit: Actually I'll just send an email right now to make sure we are doing it right and post on here when I figure it out so everyone can benefit.
Edited by travis_w, 16 May 2013 - 01:08 AM.
kylehere 16 May 2013
Yeah, I'll email them too, and I'll email you the other email address so you can email them as well?
Absent 16 May 2013
If saving ~$180 isn't worth 10-20 minutes of your time to learning how to build one, then you need to rethink your financial choices...
Honestly a lot of people seem to show very little results from TDCS.... so if that happens to be you(any of you), in that case, you can either walk away with some basic circuit knowledge at a loss of $20, or you can walk away with a $200 hole in your pocket.
Edited by Siro, 16 May 2013 - 01:29 AM.
travis_w 16 May 2013
A commercially developed item is good because everything is handled for you, just do what the direction booklet says. I can rest assured that someone else did the research and work making this a quality item before mass producing it. I fell upon TDCS threads a long time ago and have been waiting for a commercial version to come out because I didn't want to put together a shoddy circuit board and wrap gauze around my head with sponges under it.
Edit: I was an electrical engineer for four years, I designed power plants and distribution grids, and I still would rather not build one.
Edited by travis_w, 16 May 2013 - 01:35 AM.
Absent 16 May 2013
TDCS has been hyped up a whole lot more significant than it is, which is the main reason I advise against spending hundreds of dollars on devices... but shit, if you're rich, go for it.
travis_w 16 May 2013
Dashwolf 16 May 2013
Included in every focus box is:
- 1 focus headset
- 1 focus case
- 8 resuable sponges
- 1 micro-USB cable
- Manual and warranty booklet.
Optional extras pack includes:
1 anodal electrode cable, 1 cathodal electrode cable, 1 dual electrode cable, 8 reusable electrode pads, 8 extra sponges, 1 display stand, plus enhanced tdcs modes including wave, sinus, noise and sham.
So, we also need to buy the extras pack? Because it seems like we would be missing cables and pads in order to use it.
DamnedOwl 16 May 2013
It's just that it seems to pitched at gamers. Now, other than them wanting to appeal to what they perhaps feel is their largest target market, is there any other reason why this is only going to be used by those playing games?
Godof Smallthings 16 May 2013
Other than it being operated via a Bluetooth 4.0 enabled device, this is just a normal tDCS device like any other, right?
It's just that it seems to pitched at gamers. Now, other than them wanting to appeal to what they perhaps feel is their largest target market, is there any other reason why this is only going to be used by those playing games?
My take is that you can not market it as a medical device, as that requires FDA approval, which is costly and not so easy to get. So they found another angle instead.
travis_w 16 May 2013
lourdaud, kylehere, and cATsE were the members who gave me their email addresses, if you plan on buying one please send one of them a message with your email so they can get a discount too. You can also send me a message and I'll forward it to one of them.
travis_w 16 May 2013
BUT, one thing I'm worried about (I've sent an email about this, awaiting response) is that it appears to only do one thing in "default" mode and requires an iPhone to get more out of it. I don't have an iPhone or want one. It also doesn't have an Android app yet because Android doesn't support the Bluetooth version they use. Android is rumored to support that version in 4.3, which comes out somewhere around August-ish, but I don't want to have to buy a new phone or wait until they push 4.3 software to my phone to be able to use this.
I hope the limited language they use on the single page of information they provide is just not comprehensive. It could be that they didn't expect a response like this and pushed a basic website out to get the product going. I am excited about it, but I hope that they clear some of this stuff up. I'll post whatever they respond from emails.
DamnedOwl 16 May 2013
Having said that, it's just occurred to me that I bet they don't have any kind of software developed for the PC, so perhaps that'll be a non-starter also.
travis_w 16 May 2013
Lets hope that either we are just uninformed or that they plan on having a way for any user to use all features by the time it releases. To be honest, it would be kind of silly to release something of this scale for iPhone only. It happens all the time with Apps, but with 3rd party hardware?
soulfiremage 17 May 2013
Siro, you miss the point I think. The foc.us I can wear at work, in public etc. no way can I do that from a DIY jobbie.
Secondly, if you are not used to fiddling with electronics then its not ten minutes and It IS my brain.
Thirdly, it says nothing about being smart if you choose to build or buy.
Have to confess I would like to learn how to make hd electrodes.
lourdaud 17 May 2013
kylehere 17 May 2013
travis_w 17 May 2013
Hi Travis,
We are targeting gamers because the location of our electrodes is good for working memory and vigilance, both used whilst gaming.
Currently the touch sensor cannot change the modes, current or duration but I recognise your concerns. Let me speak to my engineers and see if we can enable current and mode changes using the touch sensor. I am sure it is possible, we will just need to find a way that is not too complicated.
The unit is fully functional without the extras pack. The external electrodes in the extras pack are for those who want total freedom of electrode placement.
Thanks
Michael
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soulfiremage 17 May 2013
If he hadn't done it, I have considered it but I have less resources - it would be a kickstarter project.
I shall keep a running review on here when my unit arrives, I've ordered the accessory pack as I want to do bilateral parietal stimulation; I'm hoping I can .
Really I should be using 4x1 electrodes for this, but that will come, in time.