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The Lyme vaccine came out in the late 90s, was not covered by most insurance, and is no longer available. Lymes disease is terrible and not something any life extensionist would want to live with as it can cause permanent harm.

If I can get it for less than $150/ea including overnight shipping (has to be mailed w/ 1 day shipping and must be kept cold/refrigerated) , who would be interested? I'd need no less than about a dozen people. You'll need to get your doc to give it to you which might also represent a challenge.

If it turns out to be illegal, forget it, but if there's interest, I'll do the necessary research.

Lymerix, a lyme vaccine developed by SmithKline Beecham, was introduced in 1998 and voluntarily withdrawn in 2002.  The Reason?  Class Action lawsuits alleging that the vaccine caused harm.  Subsequent analysis showed no scientific reason to believe that the vaccine did in fact cause harm, but given the low public demand for the vaccine, the company pulled the plug rather than deal with the media poop-storm that surrounded it. 

The Lawyers got a million dollar settlement, alleged victims got nothing.  We get no vaccine.

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Unless you plan to move to the US, you will probably never be exposed to Lyme's unless it's made it's way to the UK. AFAIK, Lyme's is a North American disease that has been making its way West and is expected to become a problem coast to coast.

Lyme (not Lyme's) disease is endemic in Europe.  Here's an informative video about the Lymerix fiasco and prospects for a new Lyme vaccine.  There is nothing available at present, as far as I can tell.

In essence the vaccine has been withdrawn, never been widely tested, and isn't very popular.

Why would you even consider this? A vaccine is even less tested than your average FDA approved drug, and this one is less widespread than most.

Well, I don't want lyme disease and no actual harm was ever shown, it failed for business reasons rather than anything else.

Well thats the official reason. It often takes widespread usage before the actual harm is clear, think vioxx. Contaminated vaccines are not that uncommon, many vaccines have been recalled.

 

You'll need to get your doc to give it to you which might also represent a challenge.

Yeah, I don't know what country you'll find a doctor who will willingly administer to you a grey market produced, custom made, defunct/discontinued vaccine. The liability involved is ridiculous. If a doctor is willing to do that for you, find a new doctor. That one is crazy.

Well, I don't want lyme disease and no actual harm was ever shown, it failed for business reasons rather than anything else.

Not only has it not been thoroughly tested for efficacy but it works only partially to prevent infection against a single strain of Borrelia burgdorferi. It does not work against International strains of Borrelia or even against the strains of Borrelia commonly found in other parts of the USA (e.g Borrelia miyamotoi). Even if a person received the vaccine, they would still need to take all reasonable precautions to prevent tick bites in order to protect themselves for all these other infections (many of which can kill you!). I've even read that the vaccine had killed a few people.
 

niner wrote:

>The Lawyers got a million dollar settlement, alleged victims got nothing.

That unfortunately is the case more often than not. The class members get squat and the lawyers make a killing. One exception I can think of is the prosper class action settlement. I still get small checks once a year on that. Of the half dozen or so other actions I was a class member of, never got a thing worth receiving. 

 

Well, I don't want lyme disease and no actual harm was ever shown, it failed for business reasons rather than anything else.

 

Not only has it not been thoroughly tested for efficacy but it works only partially to prevent infection against a single strain of Borrelia burgdorferi. It does not work against International strains of Borrelia or even against the strains of Borrelia commonly found in other parts of the USA (e.g Borrelia miyamotoi). Even if a person received the vaccine, they would still need to take all reasonable precautions to prevent tick bites in order to protect themselves for all these other infections (many of which can kill you!). I've even read that the vaccine had killed a few people.
 

 

HPV started out protecting against two strains, now it does almost 10, the problem is that it stopped development. Had it continued and received support from insurance companies, it would have developed into a multivalent vaccine like everything else. It got stopped too early, but I'd rather have some protection than none, and I'll be diligent. People in tick infested areas are used to protecting themselves, if it's properly explained by the provider to the patient, it could still help. 

I've seen alot of people argue that no one really died and that that claim was a technical victory. Might even have been in this thread. The prudent thing would be to collect more data to see if anyone was actually at risk of dying and by what mechanism. I have seen that shown.

Many vaccines are also ZOMG'd by the media and what not to the point that it's highly suspect anytime anything is sensational r repeated. Try a new filtering tactic that works for you. Take nothing for certain.