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Best Way to Blend Ingredients

Bghead8che's Photo Bghead8che 12 Feb 2008

I did a Google search and a site search w/ no luck. What is the best way to blend 5-15 dry powdered ingredients together? "V-Blenders" start at $3K so that is not an option.

Can one use a large or commerical blender, like the one we all have at home but larger? I wonder if it would damage any of the nutrients if they were used in a hi-speed blender.

Thoughts?

-Brian
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edward's Photo edward 12 Feb 2008

I researched this extensively and there is no real good way to do it, especially from a low cost "homemade" perspective. See this article, which pretty much explains the problem. http://www.powderand...r_selection.htm I assume you want to custom blend a powder mix then cap it. For the life of me I can't find a way to do this effectively and cheaply at home so I resorted to measuring out dosages of each powder using measuring spoons and a scale and making up little cups for each morning afternoon and night supplement "feedings". If you find a better way let me know because I can't.
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edward's Photo edward 12 Feb 2008

Maybe a heavy duty paint shaker/mixer? http://www.monstroni...00-p-49130.html thoughts?

Maybe somehow clamp a v tube to the above for added blending?


Cheaper: Somehow strap one of these http://www.bulknutri...roducts_id=6063 to an electric motor or oscilating or vibrating type machine like an electric sander?
Edited by edward, 12 February 2008 - 09:54 PM.
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Bghead8che's Photo Bghead8che 12 Feb 2008

Maybe a heavy duty paint shaker/mixer? http://www.monstroni...00-p-49130.html thoughts?

Maybe somehow clamp a v tube to the above for added blending?


Cheaper: Somehow strap one of these http://www.bulknutri...roducts_id=6063 to an electric motor or oscilating or vibrating type machine like an electric sander?


Hi Edward,

Why wouldn't a blender work? It seems like the ingredients would be mixed thoroughly and quickly.

-Brian
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edward's Photo edward 12 Feb 2008

Maybe a heavy duty paint shaker/mixer? http://www.monstroni...00-p-49130.html thoughts?

Maybe somehow clamp a v tube to the above for added blending?


Cheaper: Somehow strap one of these http://www.bulknutri...roducts_id=6063 to an electric motor or oscilating or vibrating type machine like an electric sander?


Hi Edward,

Why wouldn't a blender work? It seems like the ingredients would be mixed thoroughly and quickly.

-Brian


I haven't tried it but from what I have read first off blending dry powder would probably overheat most blenders. Also blenders work by the sheer forces from the vortex that is created in the liquid. I don't know if such a vortex would be created, furthermore it would seem to me that ingredients would get trapped at the bottom and not blend all the way. Have you tried this method?

so it seems some sort of shaking, mixing type device would be better
Edited by edward, 12 February 2008 - 10:28 PM.
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Bghead8che's Photo Bghead8che 12 Feb 2008

Maybe a heavy duty paint shaker/mixer? http://www.monstroni...00-p-49130.html thoughts?

Maybe somehow clamp a v tube to the above for added blending?


Cheaper: Somehow strap one of these http://www.bulknutri...roducts_id=6063 to an electric motor or oscilating or vibrating type machine like an electric sander?


Edward, you are on to something! The paint blender would work perfectly. You could load up 1 or 2 pounds of powder, put it in a large plastic container and shake it. It even has a clamp for different sized containers and it works in 3 directions. I'd be willing to bet you would get a very good mix.

I think I might try your idea along w/ a ProFill 100 capsule maker.

-Brian
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Hedgehog's Photo Hedgehog 12 Feb 2008

I did a Google search and a site search w/ no luck. What is the best way to blend 5-15 dry powdered ingredients together? "V-Blenders" start at $3K so that is not an option.

Can one use a large or commerical blender, like the one we all have at home but larger? I wonder if it would damage any of the nutrients if they were used in a hi-speed blender.

Thoughts?

-Brian


Will in the industry you can tumble the powder. A very cheap way todo this is get a "rock tumbler" They seal well enough to keep water in. Plus you can get a small one for around 50bucks. You need something to turn the powder slow enough to mix. something around 29rpm. If it goes to fast then the powder will just stick to the sides and won't mix. If you sonicate powder I think you might actually get seperation of ingrediants?

The blender won't work very well because it spins to fast. You can google powder blending techniques.

~Hh
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edward's Photo edward 13 Feb 2008

I did a Google search and a site search w/ no luck. What is the best way to blend 5-15 dry powdered ingredients together? "V-Blenders" start at $3K so that is not an option.

Can one use a large or commerical blender, like the one we all have at home but larger? I wonder if it would damage any of the nutrients if they were used in a hi-speed blender.

Thoughts?

-Brian


Will in the industry you can tumble the powder. A very cheap way todo this is get a "rock tumbler" They seal well enough to keep water in. Plus you can get a small one for around 50bucks. You need something to turn the powder slow enough to mix. something around 29rpm. If it goes to fast then the powder will just stick to the sides and won't mix. If you sonicate powder I think you might actually get seperation of ingrediants?

The blender won't work very well because it spins to fast. You can google powder blending techniques.

~Hh


I found some references to people using rock tumblers but from what I remember as a kid (I had one of these, yes I was a nerd) tumblers run very slowly and to tumble rocks would take days of continuous tumbling, which for powders wouldn't be ideal I would think?
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Hedgehog's Photo Hedgehog 13 Feb 2008

I did a Google search and a site search w/ no luck. What is the best way to blend 5-15 dry powdered ingredients together? "V-Blenders" start at $3K so that is not an option.

Can one use a large or commerical blender, like the one we all have at home but larger? I wonder if it would damage any of the nutrients if they were used in a hi-speed blender.

Thoughts?

-Brian


Will in the industry you can tumble the powder. A very cheap way todo this is get a "rock tumbler" They seal well enough to keep water in. Plus you can get a small one for around 50bucks. You need something to turn the powder slow enough to mix. something around 29rpm. If it goes to fast then the powder will just stick to the sides and won't mix. If you sonicate powder I think you might actually get seperation of ingrediants?

The blender won't work very well because it spins to fast. You can google powder blending techniques.

~Hh


I found some references to people using rock tumblers but from what I remember as a kid (I had one of these, yes I was a nerd) tumblers run very slowly and to tumble rocks would take days of continuous tumbling, which for powders wouldn't be ideal I would think?


Depending on what powders you are mixing I would assume you would only need to leave it in for a few hours (maybe even 15-30min). Slow mixing is good because no heat is generated. Plus if you mix long enough the particle size might slowly decrease.


See chapter 1.3 page 19 of this book

http://books.google....-9RnjI#PPA19,M1
Edited by hedgehog_info, 13 February 2008 - 12:37 AM.
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