VEGA, complete whole food health optimizer
_alden_
19 Nov 2009
http://sequelnatural...azGd1hDwehYVqw7
It looks pretty good to me.
Would a low-carb vegan paleo diet be optimal?
or is there something necessary for good health that cannot be obtained from plants?
inkyoto
20 Nov 2009
So what do we think about vega?
http://sequelnatural...azGd1hDwehYVqw7
It looks pretty good to me.
Would a low-carb vegan paleo diet be optimal?
or is there something necessary for good health that cannot be obtained from plants?
One 69g serving provides a total 26g of protein, 22g of carbs and 6g of fat, so what is that rest of the 69g serving? Also, from the label, they are using ergocalciferol (D2) in an unusually high of 400IU concentration, cyanocobolamin (B12) and cheap mineral chelates, which are - generally speaking - not very bioavailable. To me, the product poses more questions and questioning than immediately seen benefits to consider it. I would imagine Living Fuel products could be a better option.
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Rich D
20 Nov 2009
So what do we think about vega?
http://sequelnatural...azGd1hDwehYVqw7
It looks pretty good to me.
Would a low-carb vegan paleo diet be optimal?
or is there something necessary for good health that cannot be obtained from plants?
One 69g serving provides a total 26g of protein, 22g of carbs and 6g of fat, so what is that rest of the 69g serving? Also, from the label, they are using ergocalciferol (D2) in an unusually high of 400IU concentration, cyanocobolamin (B12) and cheap mineral chelates, which are - generally speaking - not very bioavailable. To me, the product poses more questions and questioning than immediately seen benefits to consider it. I would imagine Living Fuel products could be a better option.
Agreed Ergocalciferol (D2) should be cholecalciferol (D3), but I would say that 400IU is not "unusually high" by any means, actually on the low side. Some positive points are that it avoids oxides and "mega" doses. On the other hand, 2mg copper is iffy, and 18mg iron is too much for males, Vitamin C and D doses are low, and it could use more healthy fats.
A non-vegan paleo diet would be optimal IMO.
kismet
20 Nov 2009
Maybe you really need to read a nutrition book, that's the one on my reading list:
Maurice E. Shils. Modern nutrition in health and disease.
Edited by kismet, 20 November 2009 - 06:56 PM.
immortali457
20 Nov 2009
Are you still trying to kill yourself by consuming only supplements? You'd need to post your actual diet, if you want people to help you. Vegetarian, paleo-ish (but not high meat) is certainly the right direction, but there's still room to harm yourself even with a basically healthy diet.
Maybe you really need to read a nutrition book, that's the one on my reading list:
Maurice E. Shils. Modern nutrition in health and disease.
Only supplements? Show me where he said that????
Good lord your hate of supps is sickening.
Edited by immortali457, 20 November 2009 - 09:10 PM.
kismet
22 Nov 2009
It's really not difficult to look it up. Supplements+some random source of calories was what I meant (no, obviously, you can't live off "supplements" alone if you starve; but you can't thrive on random supps and calories, either):Only supplements? Show me where he said that????
http://www.imminst.o...o...c=35021&hl=
Your mischaracterisation of my attitude and posting history is noted, but I won't get personal & neither should you. Individual claims of efficacy or lack thereof will be discussed where they belong -- based on real evidence. There you can counter the evidence supplement "haters" present. This thread, however, is about a sub-par supplement called VEGA and, based on the posting history of alden, repeated warnings are justified & necessary.Good lord your hate of supps is sickening.
Edited by kismet, 22 November 2009 - 07:23 PM.
