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Creative Nootropics

Rain's Photo Rain 05 Apr 2010

Hi.

This is actually for a friend of mine who also discovered nootropics, and he was curious that since he wants to do NaNoWriMo this year, what are some good nootropics to take over the month? or even for the month before/after?

NaNoWriMo is basically where you begin writing a novel from scratch on the first of november and finish it on the 30th at midnight, and it must be 50,000+ words.
So the nootropic i guess must be able to:
- improve creativity
- improve word expression/remove mental blanks
- improve mental thinking (to write faster)
- improve mental stamina/reduce fatigue (so not getting tired if writing for a longer period of time)
anddd any other helpful effects for a writer that willl be madly writing a novel in a month!

and if you suggest something please just tell us your doses and when you take it and the effects of it and all that.

Thanks heaps guys.
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Rain's Photo Rain 06 Apr 2010

Anyone?
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chrono's Photo chrono 06 Apr 2010

One that comes to mind is the racetams, of course. I've found a marked increase in writing ability (verbal eloquence, quickly thinking of synonyms based on shades of meaning or context) using piracetam 2x800mg daily. A lot of people recommend aniracetam or phenylpiracetam as being even more effective, but I haven't tried these and can't say if they would have this same effect. Some people require a choline source to avoid fatigue and brain fog, but I use....

ALCAR. Goes very well with piracetam. Increases mental (and to some extent, physical) energy without feeling "stimulating." I take 2x .5-1g daily. It has other implications for longevity and cellular protection, pretty much a no-brainer (so to speak). In your example, would probably help writing speed and reducing fatigue.

Since you have time to prepare, start taking fish oil if you aren't already. Has many implications for the functioning of the mind. Say, 1.5-2g daily, and EPA may help mental functioning more than DHA IIRC (I take NOW Super EPA, good brand for the price). May not apply specifically to writing, but good for mental support (and health!) in general.

Will drop in again when I have time to look through my notes. That's a very interesting project; what do you imagine you'd write about?
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Rain's Photo Rain 07 Apr 2010

One that comes to mind is the racetams, of course. I've found a marked increase in writing ability (verbal eloquence, quickly thinking of synonyms based on shades of meaning or context) using piracetam 2x800mg daily. A lot of people recommend aniracetam or phenylpiracetam as being even more effective, but I haven't tried these and can't say if they would have this same effect. Some people require a choline source to avoid fatigue and brain fog, but I use....

ALCAR. Goes very well with piracetam. Increases mental (and to some extent, physical) energy without feeling "stimulating." I take 2x .5-1g daily. It has other implications for longevity and cellular protection, pretty much a no-brainer (so to speak). In your example, would probably help writing speed and reducing fatigue.

Since you have time to prepare, start taking fish oil if you aren't already. Has many implications for the functioning of the mind. Say, 1.5-2g daily, and EPA may help mental functioning more than DHA IIRC (I take NOW Super EPA, good brand for the price). May not apply specifically to writing, but good for mental support (and health!) in general.

Will drop in again when I have time to look through my notes. That's a very interesting project; what do you imagine you'd write about?


Thanks for the reply-

I use piracetam 800mg x 2 daily as well sometimes a bit more, haven't noticed that many effects from it; it may have made me feel more tired over the last few days but that just may be a coincidence.. And i tried ALCAR the other day at 400mg and it made me quite tired (had it after modafinil wasn't doing anything), so i'm trying 700mg today and i'll see how that goes. And i already take fish oil heheh, but i'll look into EPA

Any other suggestions?

Annndd i actuallyy have an idea to write about (not sure about my friend- since i'm doing it too) like full on know everything; may not do it till next year but can't spill what im going to write on haha.
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Rain's Photo Rain 07 Apr 2010

What about this stack:

Tyrosine: 750~1000mg
SAM-e: 400mg (double strength)
Lion's Mane 2x500mg(one morning, one night)
Piracetam 2x800mg (one morning, one afternoon)
Choline Bitratrate 400-600mg
& Galantamine 4mg (2-4 times per week)

SAM-e and Lion's mane are very expensive though.
Edited by Rain, 07 April 2010 - 08:58 AM.
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spider's Photo spider 07 Apr 2010

I also vote for piracetam. It has something to do with improving the link (CC) between the two hemispheres.
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Rain's Photo Rain 12 Apr 2010

I also vote for piracetam. It has something to do with improving the link (CC) between the two hemispheres.


yeah but that alone doesn't have too much effects (alone=with choline)



bumping thread--
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tjcbs's Photo tjcbs 12 Apr 2010

i've never noticed any nootropic to have any kind of positive effect on creativity at all. i think you need a different class of drug.
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Guacamolium's Photo Guacamolium 13 Apr 2010

Ditch the tyrosine if he wants creativity. Piracetam works great for my creative writing, the other racetams don't seem to have the same effect though. Krill Oil is another possible addition for writers block. Otherwise I'd suggest things like JWH-018, but I'd imagine most would steer clear of it and its analogues.
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chrono's Photo chrono 15 Apr 2010

I don't know if your friend takes modafinil, ritalin or adderall, but I would use them sparingly during this. Creative innovation is thought to be hindered by high levels of norepinephrine. I've found psychostims to significantly inhibit my ability to think laterally and make novel connections. They might be better used for tasks that require less generation of new connections, like long revision sessions.

Maybe do some reading about pyritinol and NALT. I've tried neither, but they sound like they might be quite useful for faster thinking in the writing process, with few other stimulating or dopaminergic effects. It might be more useful than tyrosine in this regard, but that's just a guess and would also depend on individual reaction. Your friend might want to try these things separately before the big month, to sort out how these things work.

Again, I would definitely add ALCAR to that list. Great synergy with piracetam, very low-level mental energy without any side effects. I'd also give it a try again yourself, it really shouldn't make you tired (though anything is possible). If your one trial was at a time when modafinil wasn't affecting you, then other factors might have been at play. Try 1000mg first thing in the morning with piracetam, maybe. Again, it's subtle, but if you're used to piracetam I imagine you'll notice the difference.
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Rain's Photo Rain 15 Apr 2010

Thanks for the replies

somethingtoxic- why ditch tyrosine? i've read only good things about it and creativity!

chrono- awesome, i shall look into those two drugs. well i tried ALCAR again by itself at 700mg (had piracetam in the morning) and again it made me quite tired, i don't think i react well to it -- im not sure why....
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