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Dep Pro (Deprenyl Liquid)

e Volution's Photo e Volution 03 Aug 2011

I was wondering if anyone had any feedback on Dep Pro (Deprenyl Liquid)

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I haven't linked to any retailer because I wanted to post this in the Nootropics forum.

Thanks
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e Volution's Photo e Volution 05 Aug 2011

Anyone? :unsure:
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e Volution's Photo e Volution 07 Aug 2011

Guys I don't get it, I thought Liquid Deprenyl was quite popular here. As far as I can see this is the only liquid solution currently available?

Is there another liquid Deprenyl I am unaware of?
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marbleowen's Photo marbleowen 08 Aug 2011

Im using it currently and was about to post about how much I love it. I've tried just about everything else with little to no success. It's simply amazing the difference in lifestyle and mood you can get with this. I've been taking stimulant meds like addy and ritalin for a few years now and they definitely have lost most of their effectiveness without breaks and/or careful supplementation. I will be trying to completely stop taking stim meds in the next few months because of Dep. I take 1 drop in the morning 2 before work (I work 2;30-10:30), I just feel rather excellent. It has helpedto bust up some anxiety, depression, and boredom. Just very happy with result. Give it a shot for sure.
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AmericanEmpire's Photo AmericanEmpire 08 Aug 2011

Dude, no joke where do you get that? Lol..
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marbleowen's Photo marbleowen 08 Aug 2011

Dude, no joke where do you get that? Lol..

http://www.antiaging-systems.com/

Website is pretty awesome for all the borderline illegal/more dangerous stuff. Prices are almost never low so you gotta really want what you're grabbing. Supposedly about 300 drops per Deprenyl bottle- 3 drops/day for me (which might be high for most people) and $70/bottle.
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AmericanEmpire's Photo AmericanEmpire 08 Aug 2011

Thanks!
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unregistered_user's Photo unregistered_user 08 Aug 2011

I just ordered a bottle. After having a strange experience with a bottle of liquid dep I ordered from a chemical and peptide research company, I'm hoping this stuff gives me better results! I guess it should be here in about 10 days.
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Introspecta's Photo Introspecta 09 Aug 2011

I had better results with the jumex tablets than this liquid. This just gave me a stiff neck and no change in mood. I was taking low doses too. Maybe i gave up too soon but i thought it might of been bunk, but it may just have been the way i responded. Hope it turns out good for others.
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thermal's Photo thermal 10 Aug 2011

I was just reading an article about the original Liquid Deprenyl Citrate or LDC at http://www.antiaging...-humanity-loses

It's quite a sad story really, you should check it out.

It seems that, although LDC has proven to be quite effective, and even saved lives in some situations (people with Parkinson's), the FDA weren't happy with Jay Kimball providing it to people, and subsequently prosecuted him.
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e Volution's Photo e Volution 12 Aug 2011

OK great so we have some ACTUAL feedback!

I just ordered a bottle. After having a strange experience with a bottle of liquid dep I ordered from a chemical and peptide research company, I'm hoping this stuff gives me better results! I guess it should be here in about 10 days.

What was your strange experience?

So you guys are confident in the integrity of IAS? How confident can we be in the purity of this particular formulation with almost no information or reviews about it on the whole interwebs?
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e Volution's Photo e Volution 18 Aug 2011

*cough* bump *cough*
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unregistered_user's Photo unregistered_user 25 Aug 2011

Honestly I don't remember all the specifics. I just know I didn't have a good reaction to it. Maybe part of that was mental... because I knew it came from a "research company" but I just felt kind of spaced out on it.

I'm taking the Dep Pro now. So far I'm on my 3rd day and liking it.

@marblebrown: When did you start really noticing the effects?
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unregistered_user's Photo unregistered_user 29 Aug 2011

Just a little update; so far I've been taking between 2-3mg per day and have felt pretty good. I haven't observed any pronounced changes however I think my libido may have spiked a bit. In terms of cognition, I am also taking piracetam and fish oil so I've been feeling pretty good lately.

My energy levels and motivation are still suffering though. I will be trying 3-4 tablespoons of coconut oil to remedy this.
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longevitynow's Photo longevitynow 01 Sep 2011

I love liquid Depenyl. Have used Cyprenil and Selepryl for years, really prefer them to the tabs (generic US, jumex, Indian; I'm experienced). Can't wait to try this. IAS (antiaging-systems) has been around a long time. Their pharmaceuticals (as opposed to nutritionals), almost always prescription drugs from reliable pharmacies in foreign countries. Probably more legit than 95% of the suppliers out there. As they are selling pharms, as opposed to Chinese pharm powders of questionable quality, they are a little more expensive. But I've never seen liquid deprenyl more than a few bucks cheaper than their price.
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unregistered_user's Photo unregistered_user 02 Sep 2011

I'm pleased with it so far. I'm looking forward to realizing the cumulative effects of 3-4 months of use.
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marbleowen's Photo marbleowen 03 Sep 2011

My effects were immediate and have pretty well destroyed the low-mid grade depression I've had since my teens. The last 6 weeks at my job have been some of the best of my life... last night I was at dinner with co-workers and they were all so surprised at my recent changes. I'm not quitting Ritalin as i initially considered and have added a little NALT to my life. I'm dating a pretty awesome girl and will probably try out some Oxytocin, very interested to see if it makes me even more social.

I guess where I'm at with Deprenyl these days is - I don't get any weird speedy-high feeling. I just feel somewhat more baseline to just above baseline most of the time. I used to have frequent panic and suicidal ideations, which is rough when ya live on the 22nd floor.

On another note I've lost a ton of weight since starting as well. I was at about 183 now I'm at 172, I haven't changed my diet particularly, increased exercise a LITTLE bit (doing p90x about 3 days a week). Just rapid weight-loss that I'm actually a little concerned about- I'm not seeing a doctor but I have prescribed myself more beer and chicken
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X_Danny_X's Photo X_Danny_X 03 Sep 2011

doesn't Oxytocin give you arousal when it comes to sex and orgasm? so how does it help in making you more social besides trying to get your hands on some girl.
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unregistered_user's Photo unregistered_user 03 Sep 2011

I've noticed an increase in libido. Basically just thinking about sex with every attractive woman I see. I used to be pretty cavalier when it came to women. Now I'm like a bloodhound.
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toza's Photo toza 26 Nov 2011

I got this email from antiaging-system.com:

Dep-Pro uses selegiline hydrochloride sterile water, potassium sorbate, lemon flavor, tropical punch flavor, flavor-sweet, this formula is therefore not the same of the original (and now defunct) DEDI liquid deprenyl citrate.

So it looks like it's just selegiline HCL dissolved in water...
Are the effects of using selegiline HCL sublingually and selegiline citrate sublingually the same?
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FrankMH's Photo FrankMH 26 Nov 2011

Still no luck on finding me some Selegine that I can take without failing a drugs test then? (I'm only half joking). :(
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longevitynow's Photo longevitynow 29 Nov 2011

I got this email from antiaging-system.com:

Dep-Pro uses selegiline hydrochloride sterile water, potassium sorbate, lemon flavor, tropical punch flavor, flavor-sweet, this formula is therefore not the same of the original (and now defunct) DEDI liquid deprenyl citrate.

So it looks like it's just selegiline HCL dissolved in water...
Are the effects of using selegiline HCL sublingually and selegiline citrate sublingually the same?


I've really enjoyed the liquid dep citrate, more so than other selegiline, which i have often taken sublingually as tabs. So I need to try this one to compare. bummer that it isn't sel citrate. Or since I have selegiline tabs, maybe I should crush them and dissolve in some vodka to see what happens.
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e Volution's Photo e Volution 07 Dec 2011

Did you ever end up trying the Dep-Pro? Interesting in any feedback from people who also tried the liquid citrate.

I got this email from antiaging-system.com:

Dep-Pro uses selegiline hydrochloride sterile water, potassium sorbate, lemon flavor, tropical punch flavor, flavor-sweet, this formula is therefore not the same of the original (and now defunct) DEDI liquid deprenyl citrate.

So it looks like it's just selegiline HCL dissolved in water...
Are the effects of using selegiline HCL sublingually and selegiline citrate sublingually the same?


I've really enjoyed the liquid dep citrate, more so than other selegiline, which i have often taken sublingually as tabs. So I need to try this one to compare. bummer that it isn't sel citrate. Or since I have selegiline tabs, maybe I should crush them and dissolve in some vodka to see what happens.

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panhedonic's Photo panhedonic 23 Aug 2012

I just ordered a bottle. After having a strange experience with a bottle of liquid dep I ordered from a chemical and peptide research company, I'm hoping this stuff gives me better results! I guess it should be here in about 10 days.


Hey Semi, what company was that? was it [ferrous metal]+[mythical animal] perhaps?
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unregistered_user's Photo unregistered_user 24 Aug 2012

I just ordered a bottle. After having a strange experience with a bottle of liquid dep I ordered from a chemical and peptide research company, I'm hoping this stuff gives me better results! I guess it should be here in about 10 days.


Hey Semi, what company was that? was it [ferrous metal]+[mythical animal] perhaps?


That would be it. I still have the bottle actually. I think I may just not respond well in general to Dep but again, who knows if the stuff I bought from the chemical research company was really suited for human consumption.
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panhedonic's Photo panhedonic 24 Aug 2012

I actually started a thread about them, asking if anybody has experience with them. They might sell stuff not "suited" for human consumption, but it certainly is "meant" for human consumption. I don't think their marketing points at labs and mice, honestly.

What was your "strange experience"? No effect, wrong effect?

They *are* cheaper than Dep-pro, so I was wondering... so you haven't tried any other brand? I'd like the comparison. For now, i'll renew my Dep-pro bottle, and I'll try the "research" guys with a more innocuous product like Vardenafil :)
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panhedonic's Photo panhedonic 24 Aug 2012

Are the effects of using selegiline HCL sublingually and selegiline citrate sublingually the same?


I still couldn't get anybody to answer this question. I'm taking 5 drops sublingual (5mg/day) but I don't know if it's equivalent to MORE than 5mg oral. With MAOI's you kinda wanna know, no?

Also, if you have been using Selegiline for more than 2 years, please let me know. I want to compile information about long-term users.
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jadamgo's Photo jadamgo 24 Aug 2012

Dosages may vary slightly due to differing weights of citrate and chloride ions in the milligram dosages. The difference between the two is likely smaller than the average difference between any two people taking deprenyl based on body weight, and that's not even taking into account the high variability of sublingual bioavailaibility from one day to another, one person to another, and one administration technique to another.

Selegiline simply cannot be administered in a precise fashion to humans. Lab rats can be injected with the stuff, but all we have is low-availability high-first-pass-metabolism GI absorption, unpredictable sublingual absorption, and temperature-dependent transdermal administration.

To reliably measure the dosage of MAOI you are receiving, you must take nardil, parnate, or aurorix.
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panhedonic's Photo panhedonic 10 Sep 2012

So then taking 5mg/day sublingual (Dep-pro) I might actually be non-selectively inhibiting MAO, unknowingly. Which means that I might be in hypertensive crisis risk.

Cheese is fattening anyways.
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eilee66's Photo eilee66 22 May 2014

I just got a bottle of this but am concerned about the use of paragons int eh ingredients. Aren't they are a big "no no" and something to be avoided, even on the skin? 

 

Would love some other alternative product ideas for this. 

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