LONGECITY

http://www.csmonitor...-say-scientists

 

is consuming fish now days even worth it? they just discovered this, its likely been happening for 100 years anyway i doubt there is any good fish anymore sorry

There hasn't been plastic for 100 years, so it probably hasn't been happening that long.   But ok, suppose there are some plastic microparticles in a fish.  Where would they be?  In the gut?  That's what I'd expect, and that's not the part we usually eat.  Suppose there are some microbeads that get into the muscle.  There's probably some plasticizer that gets into the muscle, at very low concentrations.  What if we eat that part of the fish?  I think the beads would pass through us like all the other indigestible stuff we eat.  The plasticizer is a bigger problem.  some might be metabolized by our xenobiotic metabolism system, and excreted.  Some might stay in us for a long time, probably in our lipids.  I doubt that there is enough plasticizer in fish to worry about, as long as you are eating reasonably low on the food chain.  If you are eating carnivorous fish, there could be a bigger problem, and plasticizers are likely not the worst of them.

yikes didnt mean to say 100 years, i didnt actually check how long its been since plastic has been floating around in the world but this study disturbs me too much to bother with fish. small or big, that stuff doesnt just stay in the gut or be passed through ineffectively the study shows the fish having tremendous amounts of health problems. so if you eat really low on the food chain for example real tiny fish versus shark or tuna, you will consume a lot of small fish to feed yourself and the amount of small fish you will consume will equal tuna or shark so even with tiny amounts of crap in there, it adds up in time. safest way seems to be not to eat fish at all.

check out this guy, he has been selecting a lot of negatives about fish for quite a while and it has science to back it up;

 

http://nutritionfact...l-fibrillation/

http://nutritionfact...dant-chemicals/

http://nutritionfact...luorochemicals/

http://nutritionfact...h-and-diabetes/

http://nutritionfact...es-and-dioxins/

http://nutritionfact...osterone-levels

http://nutritionfact...on-and-suicide/

I don't mean to sound alarmist, but this probably will sound alarmist anyway: there is nothing safe we can eat. Meaning everything we eat, even the most wholesome and pure -- organic spinach, broccoli, garlic, kale -- all of it has benefits and detriments. All of the food supply is tainted by a giant chemistry experiment. We've introduced into the diet novel chemical components that the body presumably hasn't experienced in our millions of years of evolution.

I like Dr. Greger, and I'm a vegan, and I share many of his views, but I believe he's extremely biased in his interpretation of the literature. Are fatty, low food chain fishes healthy in a human diet? Probably yes and probably no -- we weigh the pros and cons on a nutrition scale that's only half built. People living near the sea have probably "always" consumed sea creatures -- but have they consumed the foods with the added chemical pollutants that we've recently added to the food chain? Nope. So consistently eating "fish" is a self-experiment -- no one really knows the longterm effects of these new chemicals.
Edited by sthira, 06 June 2016 - 04:13 AM.

sthira did you watch most of his videos? dear lord, does he hate chicken and fish BUT he has such good points. i mean, i always thought chicken was the best meat to actually consume of the bunch, but not watching his videos. sometimes it does show, if you are paying attention well enough, that its mostly how he sees things through some type of extremist vegetarian view rather than how they might be and he will make his opinion heard because thats the drive moving his fanbase and site, so i dont think its all really THAT bad about fish or chicken but still impressed by some of the studies he uses in his arguments.

 

 

Edited by normalizing, 06 June 2016 - 09:36 AM.

Wild fish is probably still the best animal food around, that said of course it is "polluted"!

 

How can that be different since pollution is everywhere?

 

We ourselves are polluted with all sort of compounds, nothing can live in an environment without being part of it.

 

At least fishes are wild, everything else is farmed therefore not only part of a polluted environment but subjected to human ignorance too, which scares me far more (not that pollution isn't ignorance but at least is not "on purpose").