Another stack review? Yup.
mitkat 02 Aug 2005
This is what I have started to ease my way into:
Soy Lecithin 1200mg, 3x daily
Piracetam 800mg, 3x daily
Aniracetam, 700mg, 2x daily
Pyritinol, TBA, but currently 400mg
CoQ10, 80mg phytolipid
Gingko 60mg, 2x daily
L-tyrosine, 1000mg
Also a B-Complex, Daily Multi and one big swig o' flax seed oil.
I'm waiting on some centro and hydergine I've ordered. I've also been thinking about huperzine, plus I have some bacopin I just look at.
Thanks all.
Guest_da_sense_* 02 Aug 2005
For a start cut to 2 doses of piracetam and 1 dose of aniracetam daily, you can up it later when you get used. CQ10 won't help you much with cognition. Switch to 50-200mg of idebenone per day. I wouldn't neceserry take Tyrosine daily unless you need it's stimulating and somewhat antideprevise effects.
Do you buy this stuff in caps or bulk? If bulk where did you get hydergine?
mitkat 02 Aug 2005
I'll start cutting down dose times.
All of my powders, except the piracetam, I got from nootropikshop.com. Adam is a great source for bulk powders. The piracetam I got from nootropica.com.
Guest_da_sense_* 02 Aug 2005
mitkat 03 Aug 2005
But I don't really want to open that can of worms right now.
Centro also acts as a choline donor, correct? So i could keep the lecithin down once i start on that, and still feed the racetams.
Vasopressin also looks like a keeper, but definately not for any sort of long-term use. I'm doing correspondence research now, so it's not like a i have a huge exam to study for where i could really benefit from it.
Thanks again.
LifeMirage 03 Aug 2005
I'm trying to get into a stack that will help with memory, specifically the ability to recall, but also to improve general cognitive abilities. I am a 23 year old vegetarian. Any additions, or info of any kind, would be appreciated.
This is what I have started to ease my way into:
Soy Lecithin 1200mg, 3x daily
Piracetam 800mg, 3x daily
Aniracetam, 700mg, 2x daily
Pyritinol, TBA, but currently 400mg
CoQ10, 80mg phytolipid
Gingko 60mg, 2x daily
L-tyrosine, 1000mg
Also a B-Complex, Daily Multi and one big swig o' flax seed oil.
I'm waiting on some centro and hydergine I've ordered. I've also been thinking about huperzine, plus I have some bacopin I just look at.
Thanks all.
I would recommend better acetylcholine donors like cdp-choline or Alpha GPC choline....and replacing your Soy Lecithin with either a Phosphatidylcholine complex or pure PPC.
Guest_da_sense_* 03 Aug 2005
xanadu 03 Aug 2005
da sense, do you mean 10 grains or 10 grams? 10 grams seems like a lot. I take about a gram a day myself.
Guest_da_sense_* 03 Aug 2005
mitkat 03 Aug 2005
johnmk 04 Aug 2005
Guest_da_sense_* 04 Aug 2005
mitkat 04 Aug 2005
also, if i take idebenone, do i need to further supplement with CoQ10? that phytolipid stuff can be costly, and if redundant, i'll toss it.
Guest_da_sense_* 04 Aug 2005
phytolipid? you mean phospholipids? it's not redudant. you should really do more research on lecithin. i happen to be ok taking piracetam and aniracetam together with no extra choline source. so since my agpc supply is near the end, i won't be buying any extra agpc or other choline sources except lecithin. 10-15gr of it will provide me with at least some choline and other benefits i like, plus it's a great for enhancing bioavailability of idebenone and ala, so i take it together
i also eat about 2 raw eggs a day which is also source of choline
mitkat 04 Aug 2005
thanks
Guest_da_sense_* 04 Aug 2005
ajnast4r 09 Aug 2005
i also eat about 2 raw eggs a day which is also source of choline
and a great source of disease
wannafulfill 09 Aug 2005
i also eat about 2 raw eggs a day which is also source of choline
and a great source of disease
I really disagree. FDA reports that only 0.003 percent of eggs are infected. The translation is that only one in every 30,000 eggs is contaminated with salmonella. Besides, in the rare case that a healthy person actually eats salmonella, there is little risk of harm.
Guest_da_sense_* 09 Aug 2005
Also i've done blood test last week and my cholesterol and triglycerides were on lowest "normal" value.
mitkat 10 Aug 2005
Guest_da_sense_* 10 Aug 2005
mitkat 05 Oct 2005
Choline Bitartrate 500mg, 2x daily
Piracetam 800mg, 3x daily
Aniracetam 700mg, 2x daily
Hydergine 4.5mg
CoQ10 80mg phytolipid
Idebenone 50mg, 2x daily (upping soon)
Ginkgo biloba 60mg, 2x daily
R-ALA 100mg, 3x daily
Ester-C 500mg
L-tyrosine 1000mg, 1x weekly
Vitalux Time Release
Siberian Ginseng (Eleutherococcus) 260mg, 2x daily
Korean Ginseng (Panax) 500mg
Phosphatidyl Serine 100mg
Eyebright (Euphrasia officinalis) 500mg
Flax Seed Oil, a big swig
Hemp Seed Oil, small tablespoon
I know I need a better choline source, I'm just running it dry. I'm also wondering about the Phos. Serine...It's a little expensive, and I get the feeling 100mg a day just isn't going to do anything. Any thoughts?
scottl 05 Oct 2005
Hemp Seed Oil, small tablespoon
Take some fish oil and ditch both.
gcurrie 05 Oct 2005
Vinpocetine: 5-10 mg 3x day (every meal). Clarity.
Huperzine A: 50-100 mcg per day with food. Helps with memory in particular.
Pyritinol: I like 200 mg, but apparently others like a lot more (400 - 1000 per day). Mental focus.
other comments:
Try Alpha GPC for your choline. It seems to have it's own effect on mental activity, apart from being a great and bio-available choline source.
I found hydergine to be overpriced for it's effect on me.
Phosphatidyl serine had no effect whatsoever that I could tell.
[edit]: If you try vinpocetine, you might drop the gingko. Both are vasodilatory. Vinpocetine is more specifically a cerebral vasodilator, which will help more in mental focus and cognitive enhancement.
rfarris 05 Oct 2005
Yeah, but doesn't it give you a happy little feeling to know that you're imbibing a hemp product?Flax Seed Oil, a big swig
Hemp Seed Oil, small tablespoon
Take some fish oil and ditch both.
-- Rick
mitkat 06 Oct 2005
Hemp Seed Oil, small tablespoon
Take some fish oil and ditch both.
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Yeah, but doesn't it give you a happy little feeling to know that you're imbibing a hemp product?
-- Rick
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Yes, it certainly does Rick!! Plus, I'm a vegetarian, I don't take fish oil.
Vinpocetine...I have some but have yet to get into it. I like the idea of it's actions, being from a plant I have to hang around with everyday. I also have glasses/contacts, and a history of macular degeneration in my family, so I'm interested in it's microcirculatory properties in and around the eyes more than anything else.
Any thoughts on the Phos. Serine anyone?
Edited by mitkat, 06 October 2005 - 12:33 AM.
scottl 06 Oct 2005
"Yes, it certainly does Rick!! Plus, I'm a vegetarian, I don't take fish oil."
All I'll say is look at the data on optimal doses of EPA/DHA and look at the controversy over conversion ratesof ALA and see how much EPA/DHA you are getting and see if your policy makes sense to you.
mitkat 06 Oct 2005
rfarris 06 Oct 2005
Ok, I've got one!And all I'll say to that is I guess I won't be one of the transhumanist astronauts flying off into space in the year 3000. And it's not a policy, it's an ethic. Thanks for your comments
If we're not supposed to eat animals, how come they're made out of meat?
-- Rick