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#1 veronica riccio

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Posted 06 June 2014 - 10:59 AM


it's possible to look like you're 18/20 at  age 30??  (somatic traits, skin) it's possible?


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Posted 06 June 2014 - 02:20 PM

Yes of course. I'm 30 in October but people I meet think I'm about 19-20.  http://www.crvitalit...picture-update/

I've been doing calorie restriction for 10 years. I also take care of my skin, stay out of the sun. I've always looked much younger with shorter hair - I wonder if I could take a year or two off going back to shorter hair. ;p 

You really do need to start young though! How old are you now?  What are you doing to stay young-looking at the moment?


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#3 robosapiens

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 10:13 PM

Im 54 and get guessed at high 30's low 40's fairly often.

 


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Posted 11 July 2014 - 02:48 AM

Yes of course. I'm 30 in October but people I meet think I'm about 19-20.  http://www.crvitalit...picture-update/

I've been doing calorie restriction for 10 years. I also take care of my skin, stay out of the sun. I've always looked much younger with shorter hair - I wonder if I could take a year or two off going back to shorter hair. ;p 

You really do need to start young though! How old are you now?  What are you doing to stay young-looking at the moment?

The number one reason you look so young is because of the your facial structure. You wouldn't look so young if you had a very manly face and a noticeable beard shadow. 

 

To the OP: It is possible to look 18/20 when you're 30 but you would have to naturally have a youthful face and light, vibrant, clear skin. If you look 30 at age 30 now there is no way to look younger unless you wear makeup and have surgery to remove normal facial bony growth that comes with average development and a facelift and/or a necklift to remove sagging-skin/wrinkles that comes with aging.


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#5 gt35r

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 03:19 AM

Lets not confuse developmental aging with senescence. You really can't turn back the clock from 22-25 on back because you would have to reverse developmental growth. In others words, you can only (or should only) want to prevent aging due to senescence. 

 

You are more likely to find people who look 22-25 at lets say the age of 30 or 35. 18 is a hard age to return to because you are fighting against senecense and developmental aging.


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#6 Dave Candy

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Posted 15 August 2014 - 06:48 AM

Lets not confuse developmental aging with senescence. You really can't turn back the clock from 22-25 on back because you would have to reverse developmental growth. In others words, you can only (or should only) want to prevent aging due to senescence. 

 

You are more likely to find people who look 22-25 at lets say the age of 30 or 35. 18 is a hard age to return to because you are fighting against senecense and developmental aging.

 

 

Agreed 

 

Stress & diet play a part on this plus metabolism, if you have a fast metabolism you can age slower. your born this way & cant change it. everyone in my family that had a fast metabolism skinny they aged alot slower till they got in the 30's they started aging more so. once your metabolism slows or stress is involved you start to age faster. How my family figures this way back 20-30 years ago. Remember my family talking about it 20 years ago. 



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Posted 15 August 2014 - 07:53 AM

It is actually possible - with the use of plastic and cosmetic surgery, e.g. with the help of the medicine, that many people here underestimate.

 

One of the many examples about that was interviewed in the longecity podcasts some time ago:

http://www.longecity...-cindy-jackson/

 

Eventhough, every time, when I write, that the medicine at this moment gives the best way to deal with certain aging problems, I get negative feedbacks.



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Posted 16 August 2014 - 09:05 AM

Yes of course. I'm 30 in October but people I meet think I'm about 19-20.  http://www.crvitalit...picture-update/

I've been doing calorie restriction for 10 years. I also take care of my skin, stay out of the sun. I've always looked much younger with shorter hair - I wonder if I could take a year or two off going back to shorter hair. ;p 

You really do need to start young though! How old are you now?  What are you doing to stay young-looking at the moment?

 

Same here. It wasn't until my 30s that I started aging, my middle. I did a lot of CR in the form of fasting one day, once a month. Majority of the time I avoided the sun by playing Everquest. That helped out a lot. I wasn't overweight or anything, just what I did when I was younger. lol.



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Posted 11 September 2014 - 06:09 AM

According to this study, higher metabolic rates mean faster aging.

 

Increased metabolic rate may lead to accelerated aging:

http://www.scienceda...10427091949.htm



#10 Heyman

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 10:06 AM

According to this study, higher metabolic rates mean faster aging.

 

Increased metabolic rate may lead to accelerated aging:

http://www.scienceda...10427091949.htm

 

Aging is not the same as looking old, using botox doesn't make your cells younger even though you look younger. Just as photoaging makes you look older even though you're not necessarily any older. Looking young is a lot about keeping yourself from making adaptions related to sun exposure, not necessarily about truly slowing aging itself.



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Posted 12 September 2014 - 12:12 PM

10 years younger is fairly common, i think.  



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Posted 19 June 2020 - 03:07 AM

Aging is not the same as looking old, using botox doesn't make your cells younger even though you look younger. Just as photoaging makes you look older even though you're not necessarily any older. Looking young is a lot about keeping yourself from making adaptions related to sun exposure, not necessarily about truly slowing aging itself.

Doesn't the suns rays break apart DNA stuctures?



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Posted 03 September 2020 - 05:55 AM

Lets not confuse developmental aging with senescence. You really can't turn back the clock from 22-25 on back because you would have to reverse developmental growth. In others words, you can only (or should only) want to prevent aging due to senescence. 

 

You are more likely to find people who look 22-25 at lets say the age of 30 or 35. 18 is a hard age to return to because you are fighting against senecense and developmental aging.

 

There is another way to look at it: when you are young, you would assume that the repair mechanisms and damage being done to the body is quite minimal, so any deviation from chronological age from biological age (and appearance) would be harder to achieve than someone who has lived 50 years but looks 30. The younger you look at a younger age, the bigger the difference will be later on.

I did write a blog post on this that you can see here which explains in more detail: 

http://www.crvitalit...ll-live-longer/

 

I did actually start looking younger as I got older for quite a while, but it was probably more to do with a bit of weight loss, more refined face, and just better skin and health due to good nutrition. 

 

This is me at almost 36 (October). Serious gaming face.  :laugh: I do have slight dark eye circles but I've been changing my sleep around a lot due to work. Had it earlier in December but went away with more consistent sleeping time + more hours sleeping.

 

UWa1pvH.jpg

 

 

And there is Lure Hsu who just turned 45-years old (she's on the right).

 

X7KzPn0.jpg

 

 

Chuando Tan. Close to 55-years old here:
 

 


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#14 mario94

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Posted 12 September 2020 - 11:03 AM

There is another way to look at it: when you are young, you would assume that the repair mechanisms and damage being done to the body is quite minimal, so any deviation from chronological age from biological age (and appearance) would be harder to achieve than someone who has lived 50 years but looks 30. The younger you look at a younger age, the bigger the difference will be later on.

I did write a blog post on this that you can see here which explains in more detail: 

http://www.crvitalit...ll-live-longer/

 

I did actually start looking younger as I got older for quite a while, but it was probably more to do with a bit of weight loss, more refined face, and just better skin and health due to good nutrition. 

 

This is me at almost 36 (October). Serious gaming face.  :laugh: I do have slight dark eye circles but I've been changing my sleep around a lot due to work. Had it earlier in December but went away with more consistent sleeping time + more hours sleeping.

 

UWa1pvH.jpg

 

 

And there is Lure Hsu who just turned 45-years old (she's on the right).

 

X7KzPn0.jpg

 

 

Chuando Tan. Close to 55-years old here:
 

 

No hate, but I think you look your age. ^^


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#15 Matt

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Posted 12 September 2020 - 02:38 PM

No hate, but I think you look your age. ^^

 

You're very new around here, so welcome to the forum. :) 

Interesting you think that... my experience this year has consistently been early 20s. Back in December, a couple girls I met at a temp job thought I was their age (20-22). The 20 year old thought I was her age and refused to believe me when I told her my actual age (my age just naturally came up in conversation as we were getting to know each other).

Crazy that people people can have such different perceptions.  :|o  

 

Here's the timeline though over the years, it will give you a better sense of where I started. 

 

http://www.crvitalit...eing-skin-care/


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Posted 14 September 2020 - 12:09 PM

You probably could at a little bit with GHK-cu, Syn-coll, and Tripeptide-29. No promises tho



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Posted 16 September 2020 - 06:31 AM

I would guess Matt is no older than 25 and if you say 30, I won't believe you.
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#18 Matt

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Posted 16 September 2020 - 02:24 PM

You probably could at a little bit with GHK-cu, Syn-coll, and Tripeptide-29. No promises tho

 

Could you explain why I would need these?

I get very little sun exposure and have been protecting my skin for 17 years, so I have little to no significant sun damage. I have no fine lines or wrinkles at all either.

 

My skin care is pretty basic at the moment:

- SkinCeuticals CE Ferulic (11 years so far) - Morning
- SkinCeuticals Resveratrol BE - Night

- SkinCeuticals Eye Balm (morning and night)

 

The only thing I think I need is v beam or something to remove some of the red marks left over from previous acne. They aren't scars, fortunately. They are post inflammatory erythema or otherwise known as PIE. Basically dilated capillaries from previous injury that can take years to go away (if they ever do).


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Posted 17 September 2020 - 02:48 PM

Could you explain why I would need these?

I meant to direct the answer to OP, not you. You look fine.


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#20 mario94

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 08:30 PM

You're very new around here, so welcome to the forum. :) 

Interesting you think that... my experience this year has consistently been early 20s. Back in December, a couple girls I met at a temp job thought I was their age (20-22). The 20 year old thought I was her age and refused to believe me when I told her my actual age (my age just naturally came up in conversation as we were getting to know each other).

Crazy that people people can have such different perceptions.  :|o  

 

Here's the timeline though over the years, it will give you a better sense of where I started. 

 

http://www.crvitalit...eing-skin-care/

 

I saw your photos but no hate again, but your photos are very low quality plus like you got on these photos smthg like bright/light effect from a lighting lamp or from a monitor light (probrably photo taken by webcam? thats a low quality :/) so yeah that lighting stuff makes your face shining and look younger on photos. :) no hate :)


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#21 Matt

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 10:22 PM

I saw your photos but no hate again, but your photos are very low quality plus like you got on these photos smthg like bright/light effect from a lighting lamp or from a monitor light (probrably photo taken by webcam? thats a low quality :/) so yeah that lighting stuff makes your face shining and look younger on photos. :) no hate :)

 

Yeah... it'd be better if they were higher quality. They're not all webcam photos, but quite a few are with the Logitech C920. These kind of wide angle cameras aren't the most flattering and can make people look older as well. But to be honest, you can look at other people with the same camera or of similar quality and it doesn't make them look especially young even if you can't see the finer details. My lighting setup is not good either: it's a lamp to my left on the floor that I cover with something so it's not a direct light on me and also light from my monitor. Nothing fancy, just enough... It's not as if it's a good camera with a good sensor.

I've always looked younger in person and in video though compared to pictures. You don't think I'm trying to hide something, do you?  :laugh: haha. I've met people in the Life Extension community in person... So it'd be kind of silly to make these claims if they weren't true and that I looked close to 40 lol.

Even just a few months before my experience at xmas, my brother brought home his date and I met her and she thought I was 18 years old. I don't really think this about myself, but it happened, just like hundreds of other times over the last 16 years or more, people have pointed out to me that I look very young. I never used to make a big deal of it, but everyone else did.
 

You'd have a far better idea if you saw me on video as it'd give you better overall picture of how I am. Even when talking on the phone, people usually think I'm in my late teens or early 20s.

 

 I'm guessing that real life experiences would offer a better clue... But then you just have to take my word for it. :p 


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Posted 01 December 2020 - 04:30 PM

Lets not confuse developmental aging with senescence. You really can't turn back the clock from 22-25 on back because you would have to reverse developmental growth. In others words, you can only (or should only) want to prevent aging due to senescence. 

 

You are more likely to find people who look 22-25 at lets say the age of 30 or 35. 18 is a hard age to return to because you are fighting against senecense and developmental aging.

 

At 25 you already see signs of aging in the skin (especially if you're a woman). Just because you are still developing (at 18-20 you're already almost finished anyway), doesn't mean aging can't start. Skin aging and subcutaneous loss shouldn't be confused for development.

 

The only difference I find between 18-21 year olds and 22-25 year olds is subcutaneous fat loss. 22-25 year olds aren't significantly more "developed", and typically you see actors in this age range look younger primarily because of their skin.

 

Prefrontal cortex doesn't finish growing until around 25 but fluid intelligence peaks earlier. Immune system peaks as early as 15 years old, the same age at which is also around the age at which strength of natural selection decreases in the antagonistic pleiotropy hypothesis. There is no one age range that's considered a peak where you finish development and before aging starts. But typically the 18-21 age group has little to no wrinkling and SC fat loss while 22-25 does.



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Posted 03 December 2020 - 12:55 AM

The biggest thing for me is the haircut I choose. 

 

As far as how people look between ~18 and  ~25, I think experience is a very big factor, when it comes to make-up for example, or realizing the usefulness of make-up or how to look a certain way. 

I do think this is the biggest reason why women in particular might quite often be considered to peak as far as attractiveness, in their 20's rather than their teens. Physically speaking, and in particular with regards to skin and how the face looks. 

 

I'm very male and there was a huge difference in how my skin/face looked when I was 18 and then 24 or so. It just became thick and uneven. Some of that, maybe I could've prevented, some obvious signs of sun damage (discolorations), and for the most part it's probably just how it is. These days I try and stay away from the massive radiation provided by the sun, and apply anti-radiation cream (sunscreen) at all times. The only positive development between 18 and ~25 for me has been bone structure becoming increasingly masculine, cheek bones becoming very defined (despite increased BMI and I assume fat in the facial area).

 

In general with looks and hair and style I'd assume that going for generally speaking more feminine looks would mimic youth. Put on some blush (could make your skin look less thick, and might make the shape of the face less square), and get a pony-tail or two or whatever haircut that doesn't make the face look like a giant square.


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#24 mgoktas20

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Posted 06 December 2020 - 01:10 PM

https://medicalxpres...-benefits.html 

CALORIE RESTRICTION IS THE KEY TO LOOK YOUNGER

 

 

 

 


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Posted 28 January 2021 - 09:59 AM

I am 29 and people say I look years younger. I have fasted for about 7 years now. If anyone is interested (and I also use sunscreen daily too), I can upload a photo if interested. People guess me very different ages. Bsically anywhere from 20 to 25 which i find interesting. I wonder if my efforts worked



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Posted 29 January 2021 - 01:42 AM

There's lots of people who look 20, and are actually 30.  Many people don't change that much during that period... and some people just have a young face.  I was the opposite, I was in my 20s, everyone thought I was in my 30s.  I suppose I coulda 'dressed younger' to offset that, but I didn't really care.

 

Where it gets more tricky, is when your in your 50s/60s.  Even if you maintain perfect skin surface, there's lots going on just under the surface that is very tough to hide.  Things like sagging support structure, fat loss in certain parts of the face, and excess fat in others, not to mention changing bone structure. 

 

I've seen countless people go from looking like they are 30, to looking like they are 60, practically overnight.  My uncle is like that.   He went from looking much younger than me, to much older than me.  There's just too many things to try and fight.   But on the plus side, I do think that a more general approach to fighting aging helps tremendously, even with people in that age range.  People like D. Sinclair can probably look younger than other guys his age who've spent thousands on plastic surgery.

 

 

 


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Posted 02 February 2021 - 03:05 AM

"We constructed a robust age predictor and found that on average people of the same chronological age differ by +/-6 years in facial age, with the deviations increasing after age 40."
 
 
Looking young is associated with being younger biologically. As I've said before, it's actually harder to diverge in appearance from chronological age at a younger age than it is at middle age. 
 
 
I talked about this before in my article here: http://www.crvitalit...ll-live-longer/
 
 

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Posted 02 February 2021 - 04:08 AM

 

"We constructed a robust age predictor and found that on average people of the same chronological age differ by +/-6 years in facial age, with the deviations increasing after age 40."
 
 
Looking young is associated with being younger biologically. As I've said before, it's actually harder to diverge in appearance from chronological age at a younger age than it is at middle age. 
 
 
I talked about this before in my article here: http://www.crvitalit...ll-live-longer/

 

That makes sense. I recently heard someone mention how a lot of their friends around 40-60 noticeably age in their face in just a couple of years.

 

Just going off my parents, both my parents started doing the rapid aging in terms of their faces at about 55-65. My dad looked like 35-40 up until about 55-6x basically (very roughly). Then at 65 or so there was a rapid acceleration to where he is now at 7x.


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Posted 09 February 2021 - 02:04 AM

Even when talking on the phone, people usually think I'm in my late teens or early 20s.

 

 

That's because you took many anti-adrogens for years and have not properly matured as a physiological male in his 30s. You look effeminate which is why this is perceived as youthful for a male.

 

 

People like D. Sinclair can probably look younger than other guys his age who've spent thousands on plastic surgery.

Sinclair has some facial work done - see videos with him from 2015 and 2020 - there is no way NMN or whatever he is taking to smooth out forehead wrinkles that deep. His face look plumper too so my guess is some sort of laser resurfacing+fillers at the very least. I wouldn't exclude the possibility of a minor facelift too.


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Posted 09 February 2021 - 09:19 AM

That's because you took many anti-adrogens for years and have not properly matured as a physiological male in his 30s. You look effeminate which is why this is perceived as youthful for a male.

 

Well, this was my voice prior to trying to lower testosterone when I was 25 (features my sister and nephew/nieces lol): 

 



And this my voice now at 36: 

 

 

I think in terms of how old someone sounds, it's more than just how feminine one sounds (although it can be partly it), it's the quality of voice and changes to the structure in the voice box with age (this happens in males and females). You can hear Ralph Macchio, he sounded very young when he was 30.

 


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