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[solracselbor]

Well, I have been purchasing my piracetam from Relentless Improvement for $34.99 180ct. I take 6 caps a day (4.8g), making this a 1 month supply. However, 1fast400 sells piracetam in bulk for $20.00, which contains 700g of Piracetam. This bulk powder, if taken 4.8g a day, would last about 148 days, (about 5 month supply). In the end it is the Bulk powder 5 month supply for $20 vs the relentless improvement Caps for $35 (@ $175 for the same 5 month supply).

My dilemma is this: 1) I am in school and with the caps I have the convenice of redosing fast and easily, I would not even know how to cary powder with me, let alone mix it and drink it when Im on the go. 2) The powder tastes pretty bad and is hard to mix. I took apart the Gel Cap from the relentless brand and tried mixxing it with a spoon...it did not mix. It just clumped up. 3) The pprice for the caps is much too expensive in comparison to the bulk powder, which is why I am thinking of switching.

Any "techniques" for drinking this stuff with the powder? And if your always on the go, how to you redose with the powder?

[Imagination]

Well, I have been purchasing my piracetam from Relentless Improvement for $34.99 180ct. I take 6 caps a day (4.8g), making this a 1 month supply. However, 1fast400 sells piracetam in bulk for $20.00, which contains 700g of Piracetam. This bulk powder, if taken 4.8g a day, would last about 148 days, (about 5 month supply). In the end it is the Bulk powder 5 month supply for $20 vs the relentless improvement Caps for $35 (@ $175 for the same 5 month supply).

My dilemma is this: 1) I am in school and with the caps I have the convenice of redosing fast and easily, I would not even know how to cary powder with me, let alone mix it and drink it when Im on the go. 2) The powder tastes pretty bad and is hard to mix. I took apart the Gel Cap from the relentless brand and tried mixxing it with a spoon...it did not mix. It just clumped up. 3) The pprice for the caps is much too expensive in comparison to the bulk powder, which is why I am thinking of switching.

Any "techniques" for drinking this stuff with the powder? And if your always on the go, how to you redose with the powder?

The powder took some getting used to at first, took it like I was taking a shot of vodka, now hardly notice it. It mixes fine with water the powder I have. I basically just spoon feed it into my mouth and wash it down with some water after. Just hold your breath if you don't like the taste and have a strong flavoured drink afterwards.

For on the go I used a tube which I had some vitamins in (berocca), its pretty small and can fit in your pocket, I put a load of other shit in with it as well, if you think piracetam tastes bad you should try this! Had the dry powder of nasty tasting stuff in my mouth and couldn't get the cap off my drink in time, almost hurled.

I'd go with the powder at the expense of the taste and inconvience, that's a dirt cheap price.

[edward]

You can find the answers to these questions on here but here is my service to all bulk powder newbies

quick and dirty answer...

Its all in how much you want to pay... For me its a no brainer, buy the bulk powder. Take your morning dose in powder form (roughly 1/2 tsp = 2 grams... get more sizes of spoons for different measures but with piracetam you can fudge on the dosage). I just toss the measured dose in my mouth and chug some water as it doesn't taste too bad.

Next buy a cap em quick system and some capsules (type OO tend to work the best for piracetam and other larger dose powders in my experience each capsule will hold about 800 mg), you can get this from Bulk Nutrition with your piracetam order. 750 capsules for about $8 and the cap em quick machine for $8 and I highly recommend a tamper for $5 to pack your capsules (once you cap you will see what I mean)

cap em quick machine
http://www.bulknutri...products_id=557

capsules
http://www.bulknutri...products_id=555

tamper
http://www.bulknutri...roducts_id=1377

note: for advanced fun with powders, capping esp with stuff that requires more precision dosing you will need multiple size machines: 1, O, OO, OOO etc. a good scale, precision measuring spoons etc etc.

[john16]

yeah i was in the same position as the OP. Buying bulk powder and capping it yourself is the way to go without a doubt. I love it. I cap everything on my own now. I probably saved $100 by capping all my own stuff...the only thing you really need to purchase are the empty capsules after you buy the cap em quick kit.

[solracselbor]

yeah i was in the same position as the OP. Buying bulk powder and capping it yourself is the way to go without a doubt. I love it. I cap everything on my own now. I probably saved $100 by capping all my own stuff...the only thing you really need to purchase are the empty capsules after you buy the cap em quick kit.

what size capsule do you buy? And how much piracetam does each cap hold? I am looking for around 800mg a capsule to simulate relentless improvements brand 800mg brand.

[john16]

this link has the information you are looking for. I bought the "00" caps...but i also cap some other stuff so i have "0" caps as well..

http://www.bulknutri...roducts_id=1576

[Piracetam]

I find it useful to have a bit of OJ in my mouth prior to pouring the aniracetam in my mouth. This way I can swallow quickly and avoid the taste.
However, I do take a smaller dose than would someone taking piracetam, which makes it easier.

[solracselbor]

this link has the information you are looking for. I bought the "00" caps...but i also cap some other stuff so i have "0" caps as well..

http://www.bulknutri...roducts_id=1576

Too bad they are all sold out :(
Now I will have to buy them from some place else that only carries them in bags. Damn, that bottle would have sure come in handy.

[nhlgoducks]

Does anyone know if powder from Nutritionist is as good quality as the Relentless Improvement 800mg capsules brand (I use this as well as the OP)? I just read a post of someones powder turning pink after a few months of purchase. Would the same thing happen if one were to cap the powder? Meaning that if a person capped their powder using the gelatin caps, would this outcome still be as susceptible to damage as the powder alone?

[medicineman]

Does anyone know if powder from Nutritionist is as good quality as the Relentless Improvement 800mg capsules brand (I use this as well as the OP)? I just read a post of someones powder turning pink after a few months of purchase. Would the same thing happen if one were to cap the powder? Meaning that if a person capped their powder using the gelatin caps, would this outcome still be as susceptible to damage as the powder alone?

Bulk all the way, as for the turning pink... anything in stasis is an invitation to shiite happening to it. im not sure, but something in my head tells me that capping will sort that out.

[dave_black]

Might help if you stick a gelatine bag in the powder and keep the container in a cool dark place.

[Ben]

Well, I have been purchasing my piracetam from Relentless Improvement for $34.99 180ct. I take 6 caps a day (4.8g)

Relentless improvement's piracetam is tested by an independant laboratory, and the certificate of testing is provided on the site. This makes their product superior, in terms of safety, compared to BN's. There is however the expensive involved.

So, instead of looking at it from a pill vs. powder perspective, you should look at it as an expensive, high quality product vs. a perhaps unsafe and less effective product (who knows how much of the active it contains if it hasn't been tested).

I'll let out a little secret: Try a search for Geratam. It's the czech version of piracetam made by the same company as nootropil, the makers of pharmaceutical grade piracetam. The only difference is the price. Enjoy.

Edited by Ben - Aus, 08 February 2009 - 02:21 PM.

[tlm884]

I would personally steer clear of 1fast400 piracetam. I would go for the Primaforce 500gram piracetam from bodybuilding.com. When asking for a COA from 1fast400 it just never happened after they told me they would fax it. No problem with Primaforce. Personally, I think you get what you pay for. I don't want to be swallowing lead and melamine.

If you think Piracetam from RI is bad try getting it from Antiaging Systems. Cost me 45 dollars for a 15 day supply

[dupez]

i have tried 1fast 400 and primaforce. prima's smells cleaner. both work the same. not sure if its the container or not that makes it smell different. in terms of mixing it - monday wed fri i mix my first dose with a protein shake b4 going to the gym. this stuff works great for lifting too.

[holdthescroll]

Well, I have been purchasing my piracetam from Relentless Improvement for $34.99 180ct. I take 6 caps a day (4.8g)

Relentless improvement's piracetam is tested by an independant laboratory, and the certificate of testing is provided on the site. This makes their product superior, in terms of safety, compared to BN's. There is however the expensive involved.

So, instead of looking at it from a pill vs. powder perspective, you should look at it as an expensive, high quality product vs. a perhaps unsafe and less effective product (who knows how much of the active it contains if it hasn't been tested).

I'll let out a little secret: Try a search for Geratam. It's the czech version of piracetam made by the same company as nootropil, the makers of pharmaceutical grade piracetam. The only difference is the price. Enjoy.

Is there an American-friendly source for Geratam? I can't get past the language barrier at the moment. When I click on the "Eng" tab, the website catalog changes so that I can't see the Geratam. Maybe they don't ship internationally.

[Guacamolium]

I don't want to be swallowing lead and melamine.


I suppose neither do I, but what does that have to do with Piracetam?

Lead-based materials do not crop-up in the main syntheses of Piracetam, nor melamine. Perhaps you have a synthesis that I'm not privileged to, please share if you do. Melamine adulteration has to do with protein-based products, so that the nitrogen content is boosted.

[Ben]

I don't want to be swallowing lead and melamine.


I suppose neither do I, but what does that have to do with Piracetam?

Lead-based materials do not crop-up in the main syntheses of Piracetam, nor melamine. Perhaps you have a synthesis that I'm not privileged to, please share if you do. Melamine adulteration has to do with protein-based products, so that the nitrogen content is boosted.

Thing is though, you never know. Perhaps what they're selling you is half piracetam (so that there is at least some effect) and half... Chinese Milk. Without an independent COA when buying from a non-pharmaceutical source, you could be getting absolutely anything. Just buy Geratam, it's cheap (well, cheapish) and you know what you're taking.

[Ben]

Well, I have been purchasing my piracetam from Relentless Improvement for $34.99 180ct. I take 6 caps a day (4.8g)

Relentless improvement's piracetam is tested by an independant laboratory, and the certificate of testing is provided on the site. This makes their product superior, in terms of safety, compared to BN's. There is however the expensive involved.

So, instead of looking at it from a pill vs. powder perspective, you should look at it as an expensive, high quality product vs. a perhaps unsafe and less effective product (who knows how much of the active it contains if it hasn't been tested).

I'll let out a little secret: Try a search for Geratam. It's the czech version of piracetam made by the same company as nootropil, the makers of pharmaceutical grade piracetam. The only difference is the price. Enjoy.

Is there an American-friendly source for Geratam? I can't get past the language barrier at the moment. When I click on the "Eng" tab, the website catalog changes so that I can't see the Geratam. Maybe they don't ship internationally.

My word.

[Llama Chris]

Thing is though, you never know. Perhaps what they're selling you is half piracetam (so that there is at least some effect) and half... Chinese Milk. Without an independent COA when buying from a non-pharmaceutical source, you could be getting absolutely anything. Just buy Geratam, it's cheap (well, cheapish) and you know what you're taking.

Is it possible to get Geratam, though?

I sent an e-mail to that online Czech store (the only place I can find that even mentions it) to ask about it, they replied saying that it's classified as a drug and thus they aren't allowed to send it outside of Czech.

[causeoreffect]

Hi all, piracetam from Czech and Germany from this site very cheap and delivery £21 to UK and US so looks like they ship it there. I'll be ordering from them as soon as i test on my self the staff from RI i already got and it works for me. There it is: http://www.docsimon....amp;fsub=SEARCH.

Peace