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[TheFountain]

Yes, I needed to bring this up because caliban has demonstrated clearly that he does not like me and that he does, indeed, favor other users over me. therefor the issue of his immodest forum conduct MUST be addressed. He closed down a thread which was important, I want to know what gives him the right to be the sole determiner of whether or not the thread in question was worthy of being kept open? Nobody was being a douche bag or calling other people names (aside from mikeinnaples of course).

Then he suggests, to further his cause against me, that such discussions only be discussed in the bill-o'rights forum. Why? so it gets zero attention? It seems to me that Caliban has an agenda against me, along with mikeinnaples, sciolaro (yea he looked into his voting conduct and concluded all his votes were deserved, BULLSHIT!). Caliban, let's keep it real man, just like we would if this were a real life discussion in person. Tell me straight, you're trying to get me to leave the forum, aren't you?

Because NOBODY is going to tell me that the rating tendencies of sciolaro against my posts are, as YOU YOURSELF OUTLINED, fair and made from a grown up disposition. If he could the guy would vote down EVERY GOD DAMNED MOTHER FUCKING THING I POST (but he can't due to the limits of 2 negatives a day).

Clearly, this demonstrates that Caliban is part of a small group of people who are actively attempting to get me off this forum by allowing these indiscriminate voting patterns in spite of his declaration that this should NOT be the case. In fact niner told me in a private message that sciolaro should not have voted down several of the posts in question, because it was plain unwarranted! So speak up caliban, tell me what your problem is with me and stop pretending you don't have one god damned it!

I don't care if you move this post elsewhere, I am posting it here because I feel it belongs here despite your declaration that it doesn't!

Edited by TheFountain, 21 October 2011 - 04:36 PM.

[mikeinnaples]

Yes, I needed to bring this up because caliban has demonstrated clearly that he does not like me and that he does, indeed, favor other users over me. therefor the issue of his immodest forum conduct MUST be addressed. He closed down a thread which was important, I want to know what gives him the right to be the sole determiner of whether or not the thread in question was worthy of being kept open? Nobody was being a douche bag or calling other people names (aside from mikeinnaples of course).

Then he suggests, to further his cause against me, that such discussions only be discussed in the bill-o'rights forum. Why? so it gets zero attention? It seems to me that Caliban has an agenda against me, along with mikeinnaples, sciolaro (yea he looked into his voting conduct and concluded all his votes were deserved, BULLSHIT!). Caliban, let's keep it real man, just like we would if this were a real life discussion in person. Tell me straight, you're trying to get me to leave the forum, aren't you?

Because NOBODY is going to tell me that the rating tendencies of sciolaro against my posts are, as YOU YOURSELF OUTLINED, fair and made from a grown up disposition. If he could the guy would vote down EVERY GOD DAMNED MOTHER FUCKING THING I POST (but he can't due to the limits of 2 negatives a day).

Clearly, this demonstrates that Caliban is part of a small group of people who are actively attempting to get me off this forum by allowing these indiscriminate voting patterns in spite of his declaration that this should NOT be the case. In fact niner told me in a private message that sciolaro should not have voted down several of the posts in question, because it was plain unwarranted! So speak up caliban, tell me what your problem is with me and stop pretending you don't have one god damned it!

I don't care if you move this post elsewhere, I am posting it here because I feel it belongs here despite your declaration that it doesn't!

I hope you aren't too upset that I voted down this delusional and paranoid rant.

[mikeinnaples]

I am pretty sure I mentioned to you earlier it is probably best to handle this via private messages if you dont want people commenting on it.

[Lee Robinson Petzer]

If you have an issue with Caliban then please take it up with him via private message, skype or mail before resorting to an open forum as I am sure that this will not resolve any issues or concerns that you may have.

[TheFountain]

Why not inform the entire community of a perceived issue? I don't get the contradiction.

[Brainbox]

A perceived issue, yes. Perceptions can be wrong. To validate your perception, start bilateral communication.

[TheFountain]

^^^ yes indeed, but may I ask what is wrong with bilateral communication that is open to the community to observe?

[revenant]

There is never a need for that sort of language.

[caliban]

classic stuff

[chrono]

Clearly, this demonstrates that Caliban is part of a small group of people who are actively attempting to get me off this forum by allowing these indiscriminate voting patterns in spite of his declaration that this should NOT be the case.

If Caliban or anyone else in leadership wanted to get rid of you, you would be gone, and they would not have to resort to some ill-conceived conspiracy to allow someone to give you a few undeserved downvotes. Can you hear how silly this sounds?

I can't think of any other forum where you wouldn't have been banned several warnings ago. Nowhere in our bylaws does it say that we have to keep giving you second chances, and you test our inclination to do so on a pretty regular basis. The fact that you're able to post here at all, let alone barely-coherent, foul-mouthed attacks like this one, makes your accusations seem utterly ridiculous.

It is impossible to police the voting system to determine which of your (many) negative votes are "deserved." If you have enemies on this board, you've come by them naturally, and no one is going to follow you around to try to minimize the consequences of your inflammatory posting style. Someone might be more inclined to take the time to look into voting habits of specific users (no small task), if your requests for help did not sound quite so much like self-entitled rants.

EDIT: I just read the thread where caliban already took the time to look into this for you. Now this rant makes even less sense to me.

Edited by chrono, 24 October 2011 - 01:09 PM.

[TheFountain]

If Caliban or anyone else in leadership wanted to get rid of you, you would be gone, and they would not have to resort to some ill-conceived conspiracy to allow someone to give you a few undeserved downvotes

Oh really? So they are not answerable to the greater democracy that is the Imminst community? From what I have read none of the moderators have absolute power to get rid of a user, but that a certain succession of action is necessary first.

Someone chime in and correct me if i'm wrong!

[niner]

If Caliban or anyone else in leadership wanted to get rid of you, you would be gone, and they would not have to resort to some ill-conceived conspiracy to allow someone to give you a few undeserved downvotes

Oh really? So they are not answerable to the greater democracy that is the Imminst community? From what I have read none of the moderators have absolute power to get rid of a user, but that a certain succession of action is necessary first.

Normally, one person in leadership would find it difficult to kick out a member in good standing who had done nothing to deserve it. You've had a lot of altercations, a lot of warnings, so if someone decided you had to go, they could make a case for it and I doubt they'd meet much resistance. When we decide about bans and such, it's usually discussed among leadership, but it isn't like it's put out to the community for a vote. Chrono's statement is accurate. No one here is trying to get rid of you. The majority of the negative votes you've gotten have been in response to the tenor of your posts.

[chrono]

Oh really? So they are not answerable to the greater democracy that is the Imminst community? From what I have read none of the moderators have absolute power to get rid of a user, but that a certain succession of action is necessary first.

Yes, niner explained it perfectly (not that it wasn't obvious from my post). You have one of the longest warning logs on the forum; in fact, we've had to artificially lower your warning level so the board software wouldn't auto-ban you. Leadership could have initiated that "succession of action" at pretty much any point in the past several years, at their discretion. If everyone in leadership had not agreed to keep giving you more chances, any of those warnings could have been a well-justified ban. As far as the greater community goes, I believe you've been at the top of the list with the most negative votes (and by a large margin) since the day the voting system was installed.

In other words, playing the innocent victim of staff persecution is beyond ludicrous. And I just read in the other thread that caliban already took the time to investigate your complaint about the user you're still ranting about. I suggest taking a hard look at (and taking some responsibility for) the attitude you convey in writing style and method of argumentation, if you're really concerned with how others perceive you.


We try to be accommodating with users who have complaints about how the organization is run, but I think it's clear to everyone here that you're trying to generate a mountain of scandal out of a molehill of your own making. And that kind of language isn't welcome on this forum, as you are certainly aware by now.

Closed.

Edited by chrono, 24 October 2011 - 01:31 PM.