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Two Years Of Nootropic Trials

piracetam pramiracetam aniracetam huperzine a vinopocetine noopept oxiracetam kava kratom phenibut

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#1 Corey Ruth Woodard

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 04:36 AM


I've been using a lot of supplements, exercising, eating healthy, etc. I've gone through phases of extreme dieting(just well balanced, not calorie restriction), 60 hour work weeks, 18 credit hour semesters, high stress times, drug use times, party times, no supplements at all times, etc.

By the way, hi! I've been a lingerer too long.

Here is my current stack, this is what I usually take when I take stuff. So I might take this stack 3 times a day, but always at least once.

Piracetam 800-2400mg
CDP-Choline 600mg
ALCAR 600mg
ALA 600mg
Aniracetam 750mg-1500mg
Noopept 5-50mg
Huperzine A 200mcg
Vinopocetine 30mg
Fish Oil 5g


Oxiracetam 200mg-800mg as needed
Pramiracetam 200mg-800mg as needed
Phenibut 600mg as needed
Kratom 3-9g as needed for stimulation, higher doses for recreation
Kava in a variety of doses for stress
Protein if my diet doesn't get it, for the aminos and general health benefits
Sulbutiamine 500mg-1g when I expect to do a lot of work
Passion Flower for sleep
5-htp or tryptophan for sleep

With my daily stuff, I have become more organized, more focused, more "college" oriented, the ability to drink more alcohol without loosing my thinking abilities(haven't done stupid stuff while drinking in a long time). My memory has increased as far as recall and encoding. Understanding complex subjects that are initially foreign to me are sometimes completely understandable, and I feel enlightened knowing that I am the only person in the room who just learned 2 weeks of material in 5 minutes. My mood is the most affected. I am happier, although I appear to be more of a douche or asshole because I can recall facts and tend to be right ALL THE TIME. Not all the time I know, but more so than people around me. My mood has also changed to being a little "unemotional" and selfish. I'm okay with that, my girlfriend on the other hand has noticed a difference.

I cap all my supplements with "The Capsule Machine". When I make piracetam caps, I leave a tiny amount of space open, and try to pack in some Noopept with a card, not the tamper device. Capping yourself does not allow for perfect consistently, some ALCAR caps may be 500mg, and others up to 700mg. I feel this is okay since we are working in the range above 500mg's, and looking for cumulative effects mainly.

Instead of telling you my story and subjective effects from the beginning until now, I'm just going to say how I feel about everything now.

Piracetam is kind of like mood support, wakefulness, creativity, ability to think "outside the box", possible memory aid, enhancement of colors and perception(initially possibly), concentration, and focus.

Aniracetam is my preferred anxiolytic. I never noticed anything from it that stood out.

Noopept seems to be adding to cognitive enhancement, appears to be like adderall light with a mechanism of action of a re-uptake inhibitor that takes time to work.

Oxiracetam is speedy, I'm not sure I really like it. I tried using it in all kinds of doses, and I always ended up too excited to sit there and do work. I'll even find myself typing my current thoughts and not even acknowledging that I forgot to type around 10+ words in a sentence.

Pramiracetam is motivational, and will even make me clean the place up or organize stuff. It feels very good and in the right doses will aid in cramming for exams or completing a large project.

Huperzine A appears to help me stay awake, avoid fatigue, increase memory, possibly more focus. I use Huperzine like caffeine sometimes(drinking a redbull to start a paper, or take a huperzine).

Vinopocetine seems to alleviate brain fog, and so doesn't

CDP-Choline.

Fish Oil for obvious reasons.

Phenibut is great. Phenibut allows me to basically take "a xanax" without negative side effects. It takes about 2 hours to kick in, and higher doses aren't that fun for me. I can take a phenibut cap, wait a little bit, and easily do a lot of school work or physical work without feeling overwhelmed or frustrated. Very good for anxiety.

ALCAR/ALA has showed me nothing, but I take it because it'd supposed to do something good, especially for fat loss. ALA is converted into EPA or DHA, I forget. They're both good for you, and at the cheap cost of ALCAR, I'll continue to take it. The ALA might be expensive, but I bought enough to last me awhile. Do not taste ALA.

Sulbutiamine gave me an experience I cannot repeat, only a couple times. I don't plan on purchasing it again unless my budget is open to something like ALCAR that I do not notice.

DMAA is great if you are not sensitive to adrenalin or prone to anxiety.

Caffeine is great in small doses.

Theanine is great but looses it's novelty.

Green tea daily is healthy and relaxing.

Other nootropics like picamilon and bacopa were not included because I have just purchased them and not enough time to assay or even really get into some deep research. I'm aware of what they do though.

I have spent around $1,000 on supplements in the last 2 years. I can't even remember everything I have tried. I bought everything I could when I had the money. If I didn't notice anything, I quit taking it and kept it. Then I started to take nootropics, and I gave up on piracetam immediately, and I figured the huperzine A would maybe work. Now I know what these chemicals do and I take them daily. I find that they work after researching them and using them correctly. High doses of anything are no good. Personally, the only high dose of anything I listed worth taking is oxiracetam for mania/energy/recreation? And Kratom, because I like opiates.

Also, I used to be a very bad drug addict, benzos and opiates. I feel like my mind is fried. I cannot think, remember, or learn properly. I feel like I struggle a lot more than anybody I know. I'm smarter than a lot of people I know, but I just don't function in a way that works in our society. Nootropics have made a significant difference, I would like to get down to only about 8 supplements total some day.

Thanks for reading!
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#2 Gamerzneed

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Posted 02 January 2012 - 02:47 PM

Did most of these substances affect you little by little over time or did you feel smarter within a very short period of time of taking them, and how much of a difference did they make in you (like in %-wise?), how smart were you to begin with you (example of how much pages you could memorize/comprehend without nootropics vs with nootropics. I personally tried piracetam and choline but only received brain fog unfortunately but only took it for a short period of time, after reading this inspirational post I'm probably going to try it again.

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#3 Jakob Wheeler

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 06:57 PM

Did most of these substances affect you little by little over time or did you feel smarter within a very short period of time of taking them, and how much of a difference did they make in you (like in %-wise?), how smart were you to begin with you (example of how much pages you could memorize/comprehend without nootropics vs with nootropics. I personally tried piracetam and choline but only received brain fog unfortunately but only took it for a short period of time, after reading this inspirational post I'm probably going to try it again.


Did most of these substances affect you little by little over time or did you feel smarter within a very short period of time of taking them, and how much of a difference did they make in you (like in %-wise?)

Most of these substances affected me little. Oxiracetam, Aniracetam, and Pramiracetam were all noticeable with first use, given a high enough dosage was taken. Aniracetam is very good for anxiety. Oxiracetam is very good for being speedy, but it can feel almost manic at times. I think it would make a good addition to someones pre-workout stack. Pramiracetam is subtle but there, I feel calm and able to perform tasks for a longer period of time. Sulbutiamine is also prominent at 1g. The other substances are there in hopes to make me feel smarter by increasing memory retention and encoding, and of course recall. Memory encoding and recall is what is most important to me. Retention is just an added benefit. All substances I take are for a purpose, and if I don't take anything for two days, I feel very groggy, like I did before starting this. I attribute my current cognitive clarity to choline and racetams. The difference in %-wise is not measurable even subjectively. If I were to throw a number out there, I'd say it's like going from ADHD to ADHD on adderall under a doctors supervision with no abuse/misuse(although I don't know what that feels like, I'm just sure it's a good analogy). Also, yes, very short period of time unless you are only using piracetam and choline. Piracetam and choline are sufficient enough alone, and I'd attribute the mental clarity/memory to the choline initially, and after a couple weeks the piracetam would become noticeable if you knew what to look for, such as more fluent speech and thoughts flow easier.

how smart were you to begin with you (example of how much pages you could memorize/comprehend without nootropics vs with nootropics.

I'd like to say that anybody in university, should be able to achieve good grades with maximal effort. Nootropics enabled me to put in maximal effort, because I feel like I can do better with them. That's my best explanation.

Also note, I spend a lot of money on these substances for a reason, because I feel they are worth every penny and more.

#4 Baten

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 10:32 AM

I feel like I struggle a lot more than anybody I know. I'm smarter than a lot of people I know, but I just don't function in a way that works in our society.


I know this feeling *sigh*.
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#5 Gamerzneed

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 11:38 PM

you should try one of the high end nootropics such as noopept or cerebrolysin

#6 capctr

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Posted 12 January 2012 - 10:46 PM

Where do I find all these supplements in th US? I am in dire need of a lifeline!

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#7 LeonardElijah

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 06:58 PM

Interesting stuff. I thought I would add that ALA produces certain types of body hormones. I take a few tablespoons of ground flax seed from time to time for that reason. ALA is only converted into DHA at a very low rate, however. Get some fish oil (very cheap) and take 1-3g a day. Krill Oil also has the DHA plus another interesting compound, if you're so inclined. Studies on the brain improvement related to dietary DHA show that it takes at least a month to kick in.





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