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Breathing Technique - Paradoxical Reaction

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#1 Raza

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 04:07 PM


Over the last few weeks I've started practicing relaxing breathing techniques and mindfulness meditation (sometimes together, sometimes separate - the distinction's kind of fuzzy at this level). I'm liking the effects of the mindfulness stuff on my every day disposition, but the controlled breathing exercises are giving me a paradoxical reaction.

My blood pressure at an active point during the day is usually around 110 over 69. After half an hour of sitting or lying down doing four seconds in, four seconds hold, six seconds out, two seconds hold controlled breathing, it's up to 133 over 88. Twenty minutes later it's halfway back down to normal.

Anybody here with experience with breathing techniques with a guess as to what to make from that? Part of the point of regular breathing exercises is he hope of increasing relaxation by altering unconscious breathing patterns long-term... should I expect this to be bad for me, if it did happen? Or is it just my concentration that's increasing my blood pressure, and should I expect things to settle down and the effect to reverse when it comes more naturally with experience?

Links to other fora more focused on this stuff would be very welcome, too.

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 05:15 PM

the in:out ratio should be 1:2 or 1:1, and there should be only a slight pause, not a multi-second hold between each breath. find a number that feels comfortable, there should be -no- air starvation whatsoever. if you're a beginner you should only be doing 10 rounds (1 in and 1 out breath is 1 round) not 20 solid minutes. also, always sitting up with an erect spine, never laying down. you can pm me if you need more detail or have other questions.

#3 Raza

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 08:53 PM

There's no air starvation, I took it easy to get comfortable with these times, which were recommended to be by a source I do somewhat trust.

I'll try shorter pauses, though; that'd feel more natural anyway. Is there any specific reason why in:out should be 1:2 or 1:1 and not anything inbetween?

The lying down for twenty minutes isn't for meditation, exactly; I just like mind my breathing while I listen to ebooks. The guides I've been reading say you can and should practise it anywhere you get the opportunity.

Anyway, thanks for responding. What teaching (or reasoning) do you base these suggestions on?

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 01:08 AM

the 1:1 & 1:2 ratios are what i was taught... traditional yoga pranayam breathing ratios. i meant not to do controlled breathing while laying down. whats the purpose of your practice? who are you reading?

#5 Raza

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 09:12 AM

The 4/4/6/2 numbers came from www.bulletproofexec.com, which while not traditional is usually well-sourced and tested. The purpose of that specific breathing pattern was relaxation. I'm reading various sources though, so my practice is kind of a mish-mash.

I'll try restricting the controlled breathing patterns to when I'm sitting upright, and testing whether than has the same effect. Should focusing attention on your breathing while lying down without trying to control it still be ok, in your opinion?





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