I like Ortho Core, but I am also frugal. Is there an equally good and most cost-effective substitute?
Good Substitute for Ortho Core?
#1
Posted 05 September 2007 - 03:40 AM
I like Ortho Core, but I am also frugal. Is there an equally good and most cost-effective substitute?
#2
Posted 05 September 2007 - 03:50 AM
#3
Posted 05 September 2007 - 04:27 AM
#4
Posted 05 September 2007 - 04:43 AM
My criteria
1) No niacinamide
2) Mixed tocopherols and tocotrienols instead of a mega dose of alpha-tocopherol
3) Mixed cartenoids instead of a mega dose of beta carotene
4) No iron and no megadoses of minerals that might be harmful
5) Correct version of vitamins and minerals (K2 versus K1, no oxides, etc).
Extras:
1) Sulforaphane
2) Chlorophyllin
3) PQQ
4) Taurine, TMG, etc.
Edited by health_nutty, 05 September 2007 - 05:08 PM.
#5
Posted 05 September 2007 - 10:26 AM
#6
Posted 05 September 2007 - 05:03 PM
#7
Posted 05 September 2007 - 05:11 PM
Benfotiamine Multi B plus lots of individual pills. It's much cheaper and customizable.
That's an interesting idea.
I would want:
1) Mixed tocopherols and tocotrienols
2) Magnesium glycinate
3) Zinc
4) vitamin K2
5) Selenium
6) benfotiamine + other b's
7) Vitamin D3
Anything I'm missing that is in ortho core that I can't get in a fruit and veggie rich diet?
Edited by health_nutty, 05 September 2007 - 07:02 PM.
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Posted 06 September 2007 - 08:46 AM
#9
Posted 06 September 2007 - 04:27 PM
health nutty, what's wrong with niacinamide?
It inhibits SIRT1 which many are trying to activate with resveratrol.
#10
Posted 07 September 2007 - 04:30 AM
#11
Posted 07 September 2007 - 06:10 AM
#12
Posted 07 September 2007 - 04:43 PM
Ok, I am convinced, sticking with the Ortho Core. My health is worth more than money.
AOR multi-3 is pretty solid as well. It's only missing the extras.
#13
Posted 07 September 2007 - 07:01 PM
What is the consensus regarding Ortho-Core and the high amount of selenium it contains? 200mcg for a full dose seems rather high and could possibly promote diabetes (if that recent selenium study is accurate).
A lot of people are taking half doses to get 100 mcg. This agrees with the crude calculation that I did.
Michael R. thinks the RDA is enough.
#14
Posted 07 September 2007 - 08:33 PM
health nutty, what's wrong with niacinamide?
It inhibits SIRT1 which many are trying to activate with resveratrol.
But nicotinic acid is OK in this regard IIRC. I love a slight niacin flush [thumb]
http://www.jbc.org/c...ll/277/47/45099
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Posted 08 September 2007 - 12:28 AM
#16
Posted 08 September 2007 - 02:07 AM
I personally have been trying New Chapter's Every Man (one daily), but I can't say if it's better or worse than AOR products. I know many here would consider it worse, but at least it's a lot cheaper and it should cover the basics.
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Posted 08 September 2007 - 02:15 AM
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Posted 08 September 2007 - 03:24 AM
#19
Posted 10 September 2007 - 06:04 PM
health nutty, what's wrong with niacinamide?
It inhibits SIRT1 which many are trying to activate with resveratrol.
This article on Andrew Saul's site makes the claim that niacinamide is inferior for improving cholesterol:
Abram Hoffer, M.D., Ph.D. explains: "Niacin is one of the best substances for elevating high density lipoprotein cholesterol (the "good cholesterol) and so decreases the ratio of the total cholesterol over high density cholesterol."
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There is nothing wrong with niacinAMIDE, by the way. That form of vitamin B-3 is frequently found in multiple vitamins and B-complex preparations. Niacinamide does not cause a flush at all. In my opinion, it is less effective in inducing relaxation and calming effects. Niacinamide also does not significantly lower serum cholesterol. This is an important distinction to make when purchasing.
I was unaware that niacin could improve HDL.
Stephen
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Posted 10 September 2007 - 07:42 PM
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Posted 10 September 2007 - 08:09 PM
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