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[whiteelephant]

I was wondering if there's any treatment/supplements to use for exercise induced tachycardia.  I developed this 10 years ago.  Even when I'm just jogging at a slow pace of 13-14 min/mile, my hr jumps up to the 140/150s.  And months of trying to train it down don't reflect any change in my HR.  It's fine after I exercise.  Don't have issues at rest and have a normal HR and a low blood pressure.  I had a stress test and holter done and everything was normal.  So, idiopathic.

 

I am a 33F with a normal cardiac history.  I have PCOS and ADD.  The ADD has cardiac implications since I got through high school and undergrad with a lot of caffeine.  Right now, I found that Strattera has benefits that no other medication does, but it makes my exercise induced tachycardia much worse.

 

Are there any options that aren't drug related?  The cardiologist that I paid a hefty price for said my option was to give up stimulants.  Or stop running.  This includes a medication that has been vital to my ability to manage adult responsibilities.  While some may see this as a simple tradeoff, those who haven't had severe ADD are not able to really know how challenging and limiting this is.  At the very least, I'd like to find a way to balance medication with this heart issue.  I've been trying for years to find a way to improve my exercise tolerance without much success.  At 33, it would be nice to not have to make health tradeoffs like this yet.

[Rocket]

I have read that l-carnitine can help with tachycardia. But do your own research into it as I am not well versed in the subject/supplement. My heart rate tends to run high (high-normal), despite normal BP and being physically fit and active, and I have been meaning to try it out and will be placing an order with my new taurine order.

 

I would be curious if you know what your resting heart rate is and what your BP is. Your "condition" could be indicative of something going on that needs attention.

 

L-Carnitine: "It can lower the amount of oxygen the heart needs by making it work less..."

[whiteelephant]

My doctor just wants to beta block me so I can stay on the strattera.  Which even if I didn't have at rest tachycardia and a low BP seems questionable.  And he is a highly regarded ADD specialist.  Another provider who I was seeing when the HR issue started had no input on the heart.  While some doctors are phenomenal, when something is outside their body focus, it gets frustrating.

 

BP runs 96/65 (if I stand for too long, I actually get lightheaded), HR at rest on Strattera is 105, bumps up to really high rates with only mild to moderate exercise intensity.  My previous stress tests/holter monitor with a cardiologist were normal.  So my tachycardia is idiopathic, which is actually a medical category.  That was 10 years ago.  Going to a cardiologist was pretty useless and costly then, not sure how worthwhile it is now.  They had literally no recommendations other than to change my exercise and avoid stimulants.    

[Rocket]

My doctor just wants to beta block me so I can stay on the strattera.  Which even if I didn't have at rest tachycardia and a low BP seems questionable.  And he is a highly regarded ADD specialist.  Another provider who I was seeing when the HR issue started had no input on the heart.  While some doctors are phenomenal, when something is outside their body focus, it gets frustrating.

 

BP runs 96/65 (if I stand for too long, I actually get lightheaded), HR at rest on Strattera is 105, bumps up to really high rates with only mild to moderate exercise intensity.  My previous stress tests/holter monitor with a cardiologist were normal.  So my tachycardia is idiopathic, which is actually a medical category.  That was 10 years ago.  Going to a cardiologist was pretty useless and costly then, not sure how worthwhile it is now.  They had literally no recommendations other than to change my exercise and avoid stimulants.    

 

I would say get your thyroid checked, but that's step number 1 with tachycardia.

[Rosanna]

What a puzzle.  Is it worth getting an echo cardiogram, to look for any other structural issues, although i suspect they'll be ruled out if your other tests were good.

 

I've been on beta blockers for other weird heart issues and while I wish I didn't take them regularly, they really did do their job of slowing the heart and I would imagine having a low dose beta blocker before exercise might help (it might take some of the benefit away but not all necessarily, depending on the dose, and if you're not taking it all the time you'd be unlikely to have muscle weakness etc, like what I have at the moment).

 

Are you well hydrated before running?  Also I wonder whether Taurine, or more pottasium rich foods may help.

[zorba990]

""(if I stand for too long, I actually get lightheaded), " can be sodium depletion and low adrenal function. Pantethine will help adrenal but heart rate won't go down from that. Have you had an artery ultrasound and or heart ejection factor measured?


Check sodium, magnesium, potassium and hydration. After that you may have pad or other arterial stiffness issue that might be addressed with glutathione plus citrulline

S. McKinley-Barnard, T. Andre, M. Morita, D.S. Willoughby. Combined L-citrulline and glutathione supplementation increases the concentration of markers indicative of nitric oxide synthesis. Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition 2015, 12:27 doi:10.1186/s12970-015-0086-7

Combined L-citrulline and glutathione supplementation increases the concentration of markers indicative of nitric oxide synthesis
Conclusions
Combining L-citrulline with GSH augments increases in nitrite and NOx levels during in vitro and in vivo conditions.

https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC4472409/

Edited by zorba990, 20 April 2019 - 11:21 PM.

[John Bumpus]

Over the years I have found that tachycardia is due to pressure in the vagus nerve at the cervical area of the spine, possibly due to a degradation of the bone/joint.

I've seen people recover from this and SVT by supporting their bone and connective tissue.

There is an electrolyte component, but time and time again I have found that its due to what I mentioned above. No real research papers that I have come across to back it up though.