Can someone give me a simple breakdown comparison of these mind supplements?
L
onge
C
ity
Advocacy & Research for Unlimited Lifespans
Posted 19 February 2010 - 07:31 AM
Posted 19 February 2010 - 12:47 PM
Posted 19 February 2010 - 05:50 PM
Posted 19 February 2010 - 10:11 PM
Posted 20 February 2010 - 11:46 AM
Posted 20 February 2010 - 08:38 PM
Posted 21 February 2010 - 01:01 AM
Posted 22 February 2010 - 06:54 PM
Posted 22 February 2010 - 06:58 PM
Posted 22 February 2010 - 07:59 PM
I don't know if Acetyl-N-Tyrosine works any differently, but yes it supposedly could cause depression. Maybe by lowering serotonin or some unknown mechanism. What you can do is take Trpyophan at night (on an empty stomach) as well, to boost serotoning, and see how that pans out.
Posted 22 February 2010 - 09:26 PM
I don't know if Acetyl-N-Tyrosine works any differently, but yes it supposedly could cause depression. Maybe by lowering serotonin or some unknown mechanism. What you can do is take Trpyophan at night (on an empty stomach) as well, to boost serotoning, and see how that pans out.
What do you think about L Tryptophan vs 5-htp?
Posted 23 February 2010 - 03:23 AM
Don't take 5-HTP and St John's Wort simultaneously unless you want Serotonin Syndrome.
Posted 23 February 2010 - 06:20 AM
Posted 18 May 2010 - 03:23 PM
I don't know if Acetyl-N-Tyrosine works any differently, but yes it supposedly could cause depression. Maybe by lowering serotonin or some unknown mechanism. What you can do is take Trpyophan at night (on an empty stomach) as well, to boost serotoning, and see how that pans out.
What do you think about L Tryptophan vs 5-htp?
5-HTP runs the risk of increasing blood levels of serotonin (as opposed to brain levels), which is bad and can cause damage in the long run. Go with Tryptophan.
Posted 18 May 2010 - 03:26 PM
Don't take 5-HTP and St John's Wort simultaneously unless you want Serotonin Syndrome.
Edited by Levi, 18 May 2010 - 03:26 PM.
Posted 19 May 2010 - 01:36 PM
Don't take 5-HTP and St John's Wort simultaneously unless you want Serotonin Syndrome.
Depends how low your serotonin is and what other health problems you have. These are often taken together for conditions such as Fibromyalgia. For someone with mild depression, probably not necessary. Not everyone is severly serotonin deficient. Like any med some people need a little and some a lot.
Posted 07 June 2010 - 08:55 PM
Posted 08 June 2010 - 04:07 AM
Posted 28 March 2012 - 05:21 PM
Posted 28 March 2012 - 05:37 PM
Posted 19 April 2013 - 04:47 PM
Posted 01 April 2015 - 04:31 AM
Don't take 5-HTP and St John's Wort simultaneously unless you want Serotonin Syndrome.
This is simply not true. Taking these two supplements in combination will multiply the effect, true. However, Serotonin Syndrome requires a massive amount or serotonin to build up in the system without any way to release. You wouldn't want to combine these OTCs with, say, Zoloft. However, combining something which is the feedstock for Serotonin with something that upregulates the receptors is not the same as combining Serotonin with something that literally prevents Serotonin from reuptake (like Zoloft). So you would be fine. I take 100mg of 5-htp 3x per day, each with a capsule of SJW at the same time with no problem.
Edited by clockworkblue, 01 April 2015 - 04:31 AM.
Posted 01 April 2015 - 11:34 AM
5-htp could cause heart valve damage. As OneScrewLoose said: "5-HTP runs the risk of increasing blood levels of serotonin (as opposed to brain levels), which is bad and can cause damage in the long run". He suggested go with L-Trytophan instead.
There is no evidence of this. What's certain is that people spew the same statements again and again just because someone else said it. Like Aspartame causing brain tumours.
Dr Sahelian's views on this are set out in http://www.raysahelian.com/5-htp.html
He is fairly confident 5 HTP does not damage the heart.
Posted 29 April 2015 - 08:42 PM
Ray Shahelian is not a source for anything. Please link to something off of pubmed.
Anyway, this thread is so old that when I clicked on it I forgot I replied to it. It's been recently discovered that EGCG acts as an L-Amino-Acid-Dexcarboxylase Inhibitor, like Carbidopa. This means that if you take a sufficient dosage with your 5-HTP, it will prevent it from being converted to serotonin before it reaches the brain, bypassing any possible heart issue and potentiating the 5-HTP as well. So the whole argument is moot.
clockworkblue is the necromancer of threads.
Edited by OneScrewLoose, 29 April 2015 - 08:43 PM.
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users