It was well documented on the boards that at one time I would offer custom encapsulation. I backed off the deal only because there was a rumor of the model 10/8 machines getting hit hard by the government due to QC issues dealing with the machine. So does that make Rizzer a copycat? I've offered many things others have not. Does that make everyone else a copycat? Who cares? The customers are the ones that benefit.
I guess you forgot I was in business way before him?
What makes you qualified to speak on the mechanics of a market you only purchase things from? You aren't on the backside of this industry.
Using your example, lets think about this. If it were true, which company do you think has the ability to buy the high quality stuff? Who do you think has the larger bankroll and credit with companies? I also have multiple sources of revenue. I wouldn't need the powders to be extremely high margin, since I sell over 3000 sku's on my website.
This guy was using a cap-em quick machine and selling caps to people. Is this the great quality you speak about with his operation? Every cap we make is done in a REAL plant, not in a garage.
Yawn, I've addressed this numerous times on AvantLabs.com. Explaining it to you again is fruitless obviously.
Yeah, selling raw materials on the internet is very novel haha.
I'm not sure why this guy likes attacking me. I've been upfront with everyone on everything I do. If he isn't a shill for smile, I'd be surprised.
While I would rather just competely move on from this topic, I feel as if I do not address Mr. McLandless's questions I would be doing a disservice to this community. I had not seen this post before, so I do apologize for not replying earliler.
I am just going to state my conclusions to the answers to the question Mr. McClandless posed to me.
So what if you were in business before smi2le? Ford was in business before Toyota, and Ford still sells lemons. That is not the real issue that I brought forward; that is competely irrelevant.
You and your website have brought absolutely nothing new to this market. The ONLY nooptropics you had 6 months ago was piracetam and ALCAR (which I must comment on below). How cutting edge? Everybody sells piracetam and ALCAR, and has been for years. Smi2le brought down the prices on these items and you followed him, as I mentioned so creatively.
Let's think of the items that you brought to market (at LOW prices) AFTER smi2le did:
1. Aniracetam
2. L-theanine
3. Alpha GPC
4. L-carnosine
And in this very thread your associate D Sade came forward and announced that your website will soon carry:
5. Idebenone
6. Sulbutiamine
Now that is evidence of your lack of creativity in sourcing. Why don't you go and seek out something we don't have already at rock bottom prices and bring it to this market, as smi2le has for the 6 aforementioned supplements.
It was well documented on the boards that at one time I would offer custom encapsulation. I backed off the deal only because there was a rumor of the model 10/8 machines getting hit hard by the government due to QC issues dealing with the machine. So does that make Rizzer a copycat? I've offered many things others have not. Does that make everyone else a copycat? Who cares? The customers are the ones that benefit.
I cannot believe that you even mention the term QC (quality control). I must quote you here:
It has recently come to our attention that a raw material supplier has sent us
L-Carnitine instead of ALCAR. While labeled as such, with a lab assay included,
it seems someone made a big mistake. This includes myself. I foolishly trusted
this company. I did not inspect the material personally, which I should have.
What kind of QC is that? You sold YOUR customers a MISLABLED false product. L cartinine is NOT ALCAR, but your supplier assumed (correctly it seems) that you and your employees did not notice.
You admit you "not not inspect the material personally." Impressive quality control, sure!
How many other times has this happened? That is, you sold your customers false products? What kind of business do you run if it has such terrible quality control? YOU DO NOT EVEN INSPECT THE POWDERS YOU SELL?
Let us imagine what would happen if, say, the next time you went to the store to pick up some beef for your family's dinner and the bucher mislabled SPAM as your hamburger meal. So you take it home, feed it to your family, and children, meanwhile thinking to yourself: "This tastes strange...I am not sure what is wrong with the meat...maybe I cooked it incorrectly..." But you would never know, right? But a month later you get an email message that indicated: "You and your family have been eating SPAM. I apologize. Here is a gift certificate to my store." I am sure you would be enthusiastic, right?
You are right, you made a big mistake.
Here we have clear evidence of your website, 1fast400/bulknutrition.com:
1. Having a suppiler whom goes so far as to provide you a FALSE COA; in otherwords selling you a FAKE product, which you in turn sold to others;
2. Having no independent assay performed before selling your product to the general public; thereby endangering them;
2. Having an owner, namely Mike McClandless, who does not even go so far as to glance at the powders his customers ingest.
Although it appears from the rest of your statement that you attempt to correct this error by awarding some compensation to the customers who you sold FALSE products to; that is NO excuse for having NOT take a step forward since that day in quality control. What happened with one product can just as easily happen with another. Furthermore, the suppliers you use might have contaminants that may be carcinogenic or even deadly. That is no excuse for not assaying all of your powders before selling them. Especially since you work so hard to appear as if your business is immensely profitable.