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[Forever21]

How do you assess the strength, efficacy, effectiveness of each nootropic? How do you compare one to the other in terms of ROI?

My goal is to cut down from my nootropics down to the 20% that confers the most benefits and drop the ones with less weaker research.

But how I go about finding that out? Have you seen a list somewhere that rates nootropics by the level of research or effectiveness?

[CWF1986]

This is the best place I can think of for looking that sort of thing up on the fly:

 

https://examine.com/

[Forever21]

Yeah but how do you assess a supplement for efficacy and effectiveness?

[CWF1986]

Did you look at the site?

 

On that site, they show different effects attributed to the supplement, how great the effect of the attribute is, and the strength of the research regarding that attribute of the supplement.  I thought that sounded like the kind of information you were looking for.  

 

 

[Forever21]

so, tell me coz I'm stupid, red few bars means not good? lots of green bars means good?

[CWF1986]

Red down arrows mean a decrease in the quality of question.  That may or may not be a good thing.  Like if you're measuring fat loss, that would typically be a good thing.  

 

Green up arrows mean an increase in the quality of question.  This would be a good thing if you're looking at subjective well being.  

 

Fewer arrows mean a lesser effect.

 

More arrows mean a greater effect.

 

And just for the record, I don't have any reason to think your stupid.  It's just that it's all too common that people demand to have everything spoon fed to them.  If that's not you, I apologize for any negative tone that may have come across.  Unfortunately to a large extent, posts on the internet are tone deaf.  

[Painkillerrr]

Creatine you can buy it everywhere, 0 side effect

[psych0therapist]

Yeah but how do you assess a supplement for efficacy and effectiveness?

I imagine the best way would be to wash everything out and then try one at a time, doing a pre and post-test both on and off the supplement. You could use this battery, for instance:

 

https://www.cambridg...m/science/tests

[Christian Hunter]

Creatine you can buy it everywhere, 0 side effect

 

Actually, for me at least, creatine (in all it's major forms) made me anxious and wildly elevated my tendencies toward hypochondria.  

 

This goes back 20+ years or so to when creatine was only known as a muscle building supplement.  I remember really liking what it did for my body (aside from slight water retention) but realized it had a marked negative effect on my mental well-being.  I asked a nutritionist (and bodybuilding) friend of mine whether creatine could be affecting me mentally.  He laughed at the prospect. 

 

Years later it doesn't seem so far fetched, though I've never read about a similar experience to mine wrt creatine.