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[orangish]

There's been some talk here about balancing out neurotransmitters for enhancing optimal brain function...I'm currently attempting to balance my neurotransmitters through amino acids, and am wondering what kind of nootropic would synergize well with such treatment, either in coordination or as an after the balancing act kind of deal.

I had a brief, probably too short stint with pyritinol in the past, and stopped because I didn't know enough and couldn't find enough to know about the substance. Can anyone shed some light into what mechanisms it works on?

Also: how would pyritinol/hydergine/idebenone interact with neurotransmitter functioning? Any ideas? I was considering these only because of the processing and attention deficit cancelling effect, somewhat over-relying on external results, but would very much be interested in finding more reliable information on the biochemical impact of these nootropics.

Would there be other equally or more useful nootropics to consider? I know there are the racetams, but I tried piracetam and can't much vouch for its effect...and am under the impression they all have some direct impact on neurotransmitters, and I'm not sure at this point I want nootropics to be influencing my neurotransmitters when I'm just trying to deal with the amino acids.

And maybe on a more neuroscience related note: can someone direct or inform me of other structures crucial to work on, asides from neurotransmitters? NGF? ...

sigh. vast and scattered and surfacing, as usual.

[salesman]

Im new to this myself but was woundering what your experience was with piracetam? Did you get it from a relaible source? What dosage did you take? What did you take it along with? Same gos for pyritinol. I mean these guys on here are going to ask these questions first before they give you other advice. Ive started to just do simple things that I neglected to do in the past. Like caloric restriction which is talked about on the introduction Immoratality Inst. Video thats at the begining of this website. Its a great video and worth the time watching that before you go asking questions here. I mean I didnt want to play the devils advocate here since im new, but just trying to help out another newbee like myself. I also started Yoga which i highly recommend using a yoga for dummies video everyday to start getting in the habit. If your lazy like me. I also started doing extra walking. As far as diet goes I plan on changing it more as a I go along and get more money. But for now I added the Cold pressed Flax seeds you know the grinded kind that you find at the store airsealed and cold pressed. The basics are a good spot to start. Im sure others will chime in here.

Aside from the basics I to have started pyritinol and like it but im only seeing the enhanced conscousness and other positive effects at night. I thought that was kinda wierd since I take it in the morning and midmorning. I might at the I am not a morning person and feel pretty groggy and cranky every morning depending on sleep , and how much I ate before bed the night before.

I dont know if it was you or not but someone mentioned getting 5htp for junk food cravings. I would give that a try because it worked for me in the passed but I dropped it along time ago because I got scammed by the propaganda psychiatrist at the time.

All and All the basic concept that I gather from this forum and elsewhere that proves to be true is you must think long-term aka changing of lifestyle, and bad habits.

[orangish]

Thanks I appreciate your pitch Salesman.

Unfortunately, I guess right now I have some pretty specfic, but still hard to tamp down and express, need to derive answers related to the regimen I was exploring. After much failed stints with nootropics and other treatments, with all the effort and discipline present, I've taken a more research-based approach and am trying to get a sense of the biochemical impacts the substances I'm putting into my body have. I guess to put it more clearly, my focus problem kind of very uglily (yes a word) rears its head when I write. Although there are the sparse moments I can attempt clarity, and even some beauty in my prose, I can't for the life of me stick to a subject throughout a piece. I can creatively and deceptively wander off, so ultimately it makes no difference whether or not I've kept to task, but when trying to do some cultural studies and piece together and analyze, structure and organize, my data and observations I already am unable to maintain the integrity of the research that I'd like to. Again, this is still very hazy a description, and maybe if it would be helpful for deriving answers I can further attempt to explain my situation and where the questions are coming from, what they're really about. Basically, I'm really looking for something to help with the synthesizing and analyzing of my thought process, and really being able to condense, slice through and arrive at my main and important points. at the moment, I am entrenched in agony, writing has become very painstaking and difficult to adhere into something coherent--repulsively choppy and trivial, and I know how to write and have done so successfully, only despite classes and attempts, I still cannot strive to write with focus, or in some different unhaphazardish manner. Even my dreams have no different sense of making sense. Before papers are due I usually dream about what I'm writing, and sometimes there's deeper clarity, but I couldnt figure out why this article on Kali struck me in my slumbers--it was the same inexplicableness that I confronted in my daytime, an inability to attain my deeper thoughts perhaps elucidating why the article's mention of Kali mattered and how that might've if at all changed me. What nootropics work well with such specific focus symptoms?
Can one choose nootropics based on nature of focus symptoms?

Although I don't want to RELY on nootropics, a little push of clarity would be nice considering I've got a clobber of papers on the horizon, and focus is quickly becoming a necessity.

Hope someone has some advice out there.

[orangish]

I thought I'd bump this up, in hopes that I could add some more focus, or gather more opinions. Anyhow, I think I'm on my last leg here...because nothing is working and I can't decipher what flipping problems are inducing such focus difficulties. I can't even size up a simple conversation and partake, not because of anxiety reasons, simply because I cannot access my mind and put myself inside the moment. I misread, misconstrue, you name it. Moreover, I keep dashing off papers that fail because not due to problems with writing--I know how to manage some techniques, although organizing and processing thoughts is a problem, and because of my difficulty getting help or focusing enough to have a useful conversation to get help, I am stuck in this situation where I incurably enact this dashing off the papers simply to fulfill assignments, fully knowing that I have not been able to follow and participate in class discussions, or even analyze where I can depart. I can only write knowledge down by rote.
I am at an end here...absolutely no permutation has helped me pull out of my troubles. And I even hate to rely so much on supplements, but if you go to see "ADD specialists" they tell you that your focus problems will never lift and that you will never get to a higher level of focusing WITHOUT supplements, drugs something of that sort. Brilliant. WOnderful.

I am on a boatload of supplements but am experiencing NO DIFFERENCE. So, I put this out here because I want to be open to other opinions that could be helpful, because no specialists have been able to do so with their specialty, asides from tell me what the problem is and tell me how to make sure piles don't build up in my room and inane things like that. I don't like to paint myself as hopeless and ranting, heck I don't like to be helpless, but admittedly trying to say I am different has no effect.

Its not a matter of stress or simply meditating. I've absolutely been there. It's a matter of some inexplicably disorder. If all this is bust I'm just going to become an organ donor, because I can't put my existence into some other form where I am not plagued and succumbed with the daily conflict of focusing.