• Log in with Facebook Log in with Twitter Log In with Google      Sign In    
  • Create Account
  LongeCity
              Advocacy & Research for Unlimited Lifespans

Photo
- - - - -

TMS therapy

tms

  • Please log in to reply
12 replies to this topic
⌛⇒ write a quiz!

#1 John250

  • Guest
  • 1,441 posts
  • 102
  • Location:Temecula
  • NO

Posted 15 February 2019 - 11:47 PM


My insurance covers it and I’m starting next week. 20-30 minute sessions five times a week for six weeks total. I’ve looked into this a lot and I’m very excited. Directly stimulating neurons in the prefrontal cortex for treatment resistant depression sounds amazing but I’m also using it to help restore my mesolimbic system i’m stimulant/amphetamine abuse.
  • Cheerful x 1

#2 Azet

  • Guest
  • 10 posts
  • 2
  • Location:Warsaw

Posted 16 February 2019 - 06:57 PM

For amphetamine abuse, you could always try BPC-157, but before trying that check twice if you have any tumors/cancer, because it speeds up growth of existing illness due to angiogenesis.


Edited by Azet, 16 February 2019 - 06:58 PM.


sponsored ad

  • Advert
Advertisements help to support the work of this non-profit organisation. To go ad-free join as a Member.

#3 John250

  • Topic Starter
  • Guest
  • 1,441 posts
  • 102
  • Location:Temecula
  • NO

Posted 17 February 2019 - 02:56 AM

For amphetamine abuse, you could always try BPC-157, but before trying that check twice if you have any tumors/cancer, because it speeds up growth of existing illness due to angiogenesis.


Ye I have some bpc. I’m mainly going to use the TMS for helping with Adderall reduction but more so depression, anxiety,etc.. as I had some of the symptoms before Adderall but it made it worse.

#4 YoungSchizo

  • Guest
  • 732 posts
  • 17
  • Location:I Have No Clue

Posted 17 February 2019 - 09:43 PM

Keep us updated John250, the insurance in the Netherlands doesn't cover it yet but I'm really interested if it helps for depression.

 

Back in 2016 I joined a 10 days TMS/placebo study for negative symptoms. Turned out I had the real treatment but it didn't help at all.

 

-edit- oh wait.. in some cases TMS for depression does get covered by insurance since 2017.. Well.. If that's the case, I'm on it!  :laugh:


Edited by YoungSchizo, 17 February 2019 - 10:06 PM.


#5 mono

  • Guest
  • 187 posts
  • 23
  • Location:Aus
  • NO

Posted 18 February 2019 - 05:07 AM

I am trying either TMS or ECT for my depression very soon, I believe it is covered by insurance here in Australia. If the doctor decides TMS is worth trying, I will also post an update with my results over the next few weeks.



#6 John250

  • Topic Starter
  • Guest
  • 1,441 posts
  • 102
  • Location:Temecula
  • NO

Posted 19 February 2019 - 09:17 PM

My appointment got changed to next week but I’m wondering if it’s also beneficial to incorporate LLLT?

#7 mono

  • Guest
  • 187 posts
  • 23
  • Location:Aus
  • NO

Posted 22 February 2019 - 04:40 AM

So it turns out I am doing ECT because it has a better response rate than TMS. So far I’ve had two sessions and can feel a difference already. My mood has improved and I’m finding I can concentrate better. No adverse cognitive effects to report as of yet.

 

I do suffer from depression but part of my illness also comes from the negative symptoms of schizophrenia. So it would seem a course of ECT is applicable.


Edited by mono, 22 February 2019 - 05:25 AM.


#8 link11

  • Guest
  • 44 posts
  • 2
  • Location:London
  • NO

Posted 22 February 2019 - 05:28 AM

Is your treatment-resistant depression of the anhedonic variety?

 

If so ,OFC or DMPFC TMS may be a better option,as standard TMS does not seem to be as effective for this type of depression. If electing for DLPFC TMS, then it might be a good idea to do the treatment bilaterally.

 

I wish you luck anyway


Edited by link11, 22 February 2019 - 05:29 AM.


#9 YoungSchizo

  • Guest
  • 732 posts
  • 17
  • Location:I Have No Clue

Posted 24 February 2019 - 02:04 AM

Is your treatment-resistant depression of the anhedonic variety?

 

If so ,OFC or DMPFC TMS may be a better option,as standard TMS does not seem to be as effective for this type of depression. If electing for DLPFC TMS, then it might be a good idea to do the treatment bilaterally.

 

I wish you luck anyway

 

I'm the anhedonic type, what do you recommend?



#10 John250

  • Topic Starter
  • Guest
  • 1,441 posts
  • 102
  • Location:Temecula
  • NO

Posted 24 February 2019 - 04:15 AM

I didn’t realize there were different forms of TMS so I just emailed the company asking if they offered those options . I don’t really have the anhedonic issues. I’m looking more to help restimulate my dopamine system from amphetamine abuse and help ocd, drug seeking behavior, treatment resistant depression and anxiety.

Edited by John250, 24 February 2019 - 04:16 AM.


#11 link11

  • Guest
  • 44 posts
  • 2
  • Location:London
  • NO

Posted 24 February 2019 - 10:41 AM

I'm the anhedonic type, what do you recommend?

 

 

According to Dr Downar, anhedonia has many different "versions" with different underlying network traffic,therefore there is no one size fits all approach.

 

However, it seems that standard DLPFC TMS is least likeliest to work for people with anhedonia.

http://www.gatewayps...with-anhedonia/

 

Then there is this paper that says that the OFC is heavily implicated in sending anti-reward projections and can suppress the pro reward network of the brain.

https://www.clinical...-annual-meeting

 

This seems to suggest that the DMPFC or OFC regions may be a better alternative.

 

Personally I would choose the OFC, as there is another paper with conflicitng evidence of DMPFC TMS working for anhedonics. OFC rTMS can work for people who have failed to respond to multiple forms of TMS and are severely treatment-resistant,which nearly all people with anhedonia are, to various degrees.

 

But OFC TMS is done at low frequency in order for there to be an inhibitory effect rather than activating.

 

It seems logical that in anhedonia, your brain has become stuck in a negative feeback loop which suppresses your reward system. Therefore silencing those anti-reward projections may allow your reward system to come back online.

 

But you will likely need maintenance treatments.

 

As for the OP, probably just wise to stick to standard DLPFC rTMS.



#12 EncyclopediaBrown

  • Guest
  • 44 posts
  • 19
  • Location:US

Posted 25 February 2019 - 09:11 PM

I just started it too. Same protocol. I like it so far!



sponsored ad

  • Advert
Advertisements help to support the work of this non-profit organisation. To go ad-free join as a Member.

#13 mono

  • Guest
  • 187 posts
  • 23
  • Location:Aus
  • NO

Posted 28 February 2019 - 12:11 AM

Well I would just like to say that so far I am quite impressed by my ECT treatment. The adverse cognitive effects are very minor, with some very mild memory loss but that is also replaced by new memories which are surfacing which I haven’t remembered in years and years! As I said earlier I am also sleeping through the night whereas previously I was waking up every few hours. I seem to be having less nightmares now. My mood is better and improving with each session as are my thoughts growing more positive and optimistic. All in all I am quite glad I decided to go ahead with the treatment as the benefits outweigh the negatives and the side effects are only mild and as I’m told transient. I will try to report back when I can with an update on how the treatment goes over the following months.





Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: tms

1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users