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[salesman]

Anybody get that? I just started to notice it thinking about why I have had fuzzy brain. I stopped my first month of nootropic pyritinol and now I am like so scatter brain and getting depressed thoughts. Anyone else get this?

[hiredavidrnow]

Anybody get that?  I just started to notice it thinking about why I have had fuzzy brain.  I stopped my first month of nootropic pyritinol and now I am like so scatter brain and getting depressed thoughts.  Anyone else get this?

Well... WHY?

Why did you stop taking it? You need to be well aware that these nootropics are changing your brain chemistry. So, you need to wean yourself off these supplements and not just stop taking them... doesn't that make sense? What happens when you stop taking other things like caffine (you get a headache) or anything else.

So keep aware of this. Those effect might ware off after a week or so, but I am not a doctor or anything so... go talk to one. BUT, chances are he won't even know what it is! So if you go talk to a doctor bring information about everything else that your taking too.

good luck!

[Shepard]

That's because your liver is now shot and the neurotoxicity from the pyritinol has made you slightly retarded. Enjoy.


I apologize if you don't get the joke. You probably aren't retarded.

[kenj]

Salesman, - just take it easy for starters. [thumb]
Pyritinol was probably masking your neurochemical deficits, - you shouldn't treat this with Nootropics/smart drugs.

The best thing you can do right now for yourself: Throw that damn Pyritinol out the window, - actually no, that would be ruthless, - someone might find it!

[scottl]

Salesman]
Pyritinol was probably masking your neurochemical deficits, - you shouldn't treat this with Nootropics/smart drugs.

The best thing you can do right now for yourself:  Throw that damn Pyritinol out the window, - actually no, that would be ruthless, - someone might find it! 

Out of curiousity, if you think he has a neurochemical deficit what are you suggesting he do about it?

[kenj]

what are you suggesting he do about it?

See a (naturopathic) doctor if the "fuzzy brain" is a problem in daily life.

[kevink]

Why did he try pyritinol first? Was there some history of lack of focus or similar observation?

Also, where was the pyritinol from. Which brand/vendor?

[opales]

See a (naturopathic) doctor if the "fuzzy brain" is a problem in daily life.

Here we go again..

Why would a naturopathic doctor be better than seeing an actual doctor to rule out obvious physical problems that might be causing it, and if nothing is found, then perhaps a neurology specialist?

[scottl]

OK I was trying to avoid commenting, but this is getting silly.

No conventional MD is equipped to do anything for fuzzy thinking.

The only tools I know that are worse examining are:

1. As I have told....the poster...who's name is orange or begins with orange is that working with meditation can help. BUT SPECIFIC FORMS. see my article here:

http://www.mindandmu...eID=38&artID=30

the first and second kinds of meditation listed if you work with them for a week or

2. possibly nootropics.

[opales]

OK I was trying to avoid commenting, but this is getting silly.

No conventional MD is equipped to do anything for fuzzy thinking.

That's BS, in addition to the usual suspects ADD or depression (which absolutely cause fuzzy thinking), I'm pretty sure clear health problems could also be the cause.

Claiming that some naturopath would be superior to GOOD neurologist is senseless IMO, but hey, that's just me.

[scottl]

OK I was trying to avoid commenting, but this is getting silly.

No conventional MD is equipped to do anything for fuzzy thinking.

That's BS, in addition to the usual suspects ADD or depression (which absolutely cause fuzzy thinking), I'm pretty sure clear health problems could also be the cause.

Claiming that some naturopath would be superior to GOOD neurologist is senseless IMO, but hey, that's just me.

1. I didn't mention naturopath.

2. OK I stand corrected, so the person gets tested for a few medical illnesses comes out negative the majority of the time and we're left back where we started.

if you think conventional medicine is the answer to this sort of thing even 50% of the time you are mistaken.

[scottl]

Oh and you mention ADD, while you are skeptical of nootropics you no doubt condone medicating large numbers of people with amphetamines (the standard treatment for ADD).

Oh and I'm sure they could lump everyone in the ADD wastebasket category. not my idea of medicine.

[zoolander]

yes yes....why did you choose pyritinol?

You said "fuzzy brain"....can you describe what you mean by fuzzy?

Clarity of thought?
Word selection?
Focus?
Memory retention?

What is your age? Any previous illnesses? Family history of illness?

[kenj]

See a (naturopathic) doctor if the "fuzzy brain" is a problem in daily life.

Here we go again..

Yes we do.

Why would a naturopathic doctor be better than seeing an actual doctor to rule out obvious physical problems that might be causing it, and if nothing is found, then perhaps a neurology specialist?

He's free to consult conventional medicine and yes, one should do that at first, hence the brackets.

Not that he will get anywhere with that.

Basically the interview with Doblin in this transcript Ecstasy as medicine illustrates my point, - attempting to treat traumatized people with MDMA is an absolutely outrageous thought, I mean the thougth alone... [:o]

That's just conventional medicine in a *nutshell*, - the blatant generalization here is obvious but, really, that's a very stupid approach trying to separate the mind from the body, the human is a very living bioelectric lifeforce and conventional medicine is very poor in understanding this.

And doctors prescribe Prozac OMG.