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High protein diet and free glutamate


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#1 scud

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Posted 19 May 2006 - 01:51 PM


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What would a high protein diet have to do with glutamate levels in the hypothalamus?

#2 scud

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Posted 19 May 2006 - 01:52 PM

Also can someone clue me in on how to post a link?

#3 FunkOdyssey

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Posted 19 May 2006 - 01:54 PM

The easiest way is to click the "Go Advanced" button underneath the reply window, and then you'll see a button to insert a hyperlink.

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#4 FunkOdyssey

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Posted 19 May 2006 - 02:03 PM

Eur J Clin Nutr. 2006 Jan;60(1):25-31.  Related Articles, Links
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    Obesity, voracity, and short stature: the impact of glutamate on the regulation of appetite.

    Hermanussen M, Garcia AP, Sunder M, Voigt M, Salazar V, Tresguerres JA.

    Aschauhof Altenhof Germany. hermanussen.aschauhof@t-online.de

    BACKGROUND: World-wide obesity has risen to alarming levels. We present experimental support for a new and very challenging hypothesis linking obesity, voracity, and growth hormone (GH) deficiency, to the consumption of elevated amounts of the amino-acid glutamate (GLU). Supraphysiological doses of GLU are toxic for neuronal cells. METHODS: Human data were obtained from 807,592 German conscripts born between 1974 and 1978, and from 1,432,368 women of the German birth statistics (deutsche Perinatalerhebung) 1995-1997. The effects of orally administered monosodium glutamate (MSG) were investigated in 30 pregnant Wistar rats and their offspring. Pregnant animals either received no extra MSG, or 2.5 g MSG, or 5 g MSG per day, up to the end of the weaning period. In all, 2.5 g, respectively 5 g, MSG accounted for some 10%, respectively 20%, of dry weight of the average daily food ration. After weaning, MSG feeding was continued in the offspring. FINDINGS: Morbid obesity associates with short stature. Average stature of conscripts progressively declines when body mass index increases above 38 kg/m2. Also morbidly obese young women are shorter than average though to a lesser extent than conscripts. Oral administration of MSG to pregnant rats affects birth weight of the offspring. Maternal feeding with 5 g MSG per day results in severe birth weight reduction (P<0.01). Weight increments remain subnormal when MSG feeding to the mothers is maintained during weaning (P < 0.01). GH serum levels are affected in animals that received MSG during prenatal life via maternal feeding. Animals that are kept on high MSG diet (5 g MSG per day) continue to show serum GH levels that are as low or even lower than those of MSG injected animals (P < 0.05), both at day 30 and at day 90 of life. Animals that were kept on medium MSG diet (2.5 g MSG per day) showed low serum GH levels at day 30 of life (P < 0.01), but seemed to partially recover before day 90. Almost identical results were observed in IGF-1 serum levels. Oral MSG resulted in dose dependent voracity. The animals fed 5 g MSG per day increased water uptake by threefold (P < 0.01), and food uptake by almost two-fold (P < 0.01). The influence of MSG is in general more marked in males than in females. Interpretation: GLU is a widely used nutritional substance that potentially exhibits significant neuronal toxicity. Voracity, and impaired GH secretion are the two major characteristics of parenterally administered GLU-induced neuronal damage. GLU maintains its toxicity in animals even when administered orally. Males appear to be more sensitive than females. The present study for the first time demonstrates, that a widely used nutritional monosubstance--the flavouring agent MSG--at concentrations that only slightly surpass those found in everyday human food, exhibits significant potential for damaging the hypothalamic regulation of appetite, and thereby determines the propensity of world-wide obesity. We suggest to reconsider the recommended daily allowances of amino acids and nutritional protein, and to abstain from the popular protein-rich diets, and particularly from adding the flavouring agents MSG.

    PMID: 16132059 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Talk about jumping to conclusions! I don't see why they didn't keep going -- surely these rat MSG studies can be interpreted even further, maybe to tell us how much water we should consume daily, or the proper Omega-3 / Omega-6 ratio?

#5 scud

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Posted 20 May 2006 - 02:38 AM

Thanks a bunch Funk! From the recomendation, it seems that they make no distinction between bound and free amino acids.




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