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#421 pamojja

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 06:39 PM

Austrian politicians now even gave a timetable. On April 14th small shops with less the 400 m2 and builder/guardening markets are allowed to open again - while keeping all the measures of social distancing (1.5 m), face-masks and desinfection implemented. First of May other shops and hair-dresser, middle of May slowly hotels, restaurants and schools too. Face-masks and socical distancing will remain obligatory for some time. Big events and meetings will not be allowed at least till the end of June. That's how it looks now, after an early lock-down since the middle of March.


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Posted 08 April 2020 - 10:34 PM

Austrian politicians now even gave a timetable. On April 14th small shops with less the 400 m2 and builder/guardening markets are allowed to open again - while keeping all the measures of social distancing (1.5 m), face-masks and desinfection implemented. First of May other shops and hair-dresser, middle of May slowly hotels, restaurants and schools too. Face-masks and socical distancing will remain obligatory for some time. Big events and meetings will not be allowed at least till the end of June. That's how it looks now, after an early lock-down since the middle of March.

 

I hope other countries follow the lead. If "essential businesses" can stay open safely, there is no reason other shops cannot operate.



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Posted 08 April 2020 - 10:36 PM

According to the WHO situation report today, the worldwide crude CFR for COVID-19 is 5.9%.

 

The CFR in South Korea has now risen to 1.9%.

 

The fatalities are still highly concentrated among elderly populations and those with obesity, high blood pressure, diabetes, and other co-morbidities.

 

 


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Posted 09 April 2020 - 05:03 PM

According to the WHO situation report today, the worldwide crude CFR for COVID-19 is 5.9%.

 

The CFR in South Korea has now risen to 1.9%.

 

The fatalities are still highly concentrated among elderly populations and those with obesity, high blood pressure, diabetes, and other co-morbidities.

Than you Mind for bringing to all the right use of CFR (case fatality rate vs. "mortality rate" as too much often confused). These numbers should also be given with an error margin: when there is delay between infection and death CFR at a given instant is underestimated; this is balanced when many cases are missing as CFR is overestimated. Going back to notes I took in the past couple of months, ~5.9% compares with lot of incertitude with ebola (~50-90%), H5N1 avian (~60%), SARS (~10%), 1918 influenza (~4-5%), seasonal influenza (~0.1%), H1N1 pandemic (~0.05%). So to me, for the time being and with great incertitude, CFR of this new SARS-Cov-2, sits still between seasonal influenza and SARS, maybe going down but cannot say.

https://www.cebm.net...fatality-rates/

https://www.longecit...ndpost&p=886384 (mins 14:00 and 17:23 of the provided link)

 

 



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Posted 09 April 2020 - 05:35 PM

The real numbers will be get closer once this guy's representative study in the US with Antibody testing completed.

 

 

However, just today the preliminary results of a much smaller similiar study in the most hit area of Germany came out. I copy from an other forum:

 

 

By accident I just saw the live presentation of first results from "Covid-19-Cluster-Study", Streeck and others.

The study is carried out in Ganglet/Heinsberg, an area highly affected in Germany.

So far 509 persons from the half of the sample households have been examined for the study. It took ten days.

acute infected - PCR test - 2%
immunity - antibody test - 14%
case fatality - 0.37%
mortality - 0.06%

So, according to the study so far, 0,37% of the infected people have died, and 0.06% of the population have died (from or with the virus). 14% of the population in Gangelt/Heinsberg have been infected (or still are, respectively), and 2% are indeed acute infected.

The 14% are the lowest estimation from different methods (Streeck didn´t give the other numbers).

 


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Posted 09 April 2020 - 05:42 PM

Receminent of the cummunity of Vo, where after the first death 3% of the whole community tested positive, few days later retested 0.3% positive only.
 


Italy's first death from COVID-19 was recorded in the northern town of Vò, a 3,300-strong community in the Province of Padua 30 miles (50 kilometers) from Venice. Scientists involved say it was an experimental initiative that enabled them to create a full "epidemiological picture" of COVID-19, Financial Times reports.

Since the start of the outbreak, authorities have been testing and retesting each of the town's inhabitants. The tests were performed on people whether or not they were displaying symptoms of the disease. By some reports, between a half and three-quarters of carriers in Vò, were asymptomatic.

Anyone who was found to be infected with the new coronavirus was then put into quarantine—as was everyone they had come into contact with.

Testing began in late February when roughly 3 percent of Vò residents were infected with the virus that causes COVID-19. Half were asymptomatic—therefore displayed no symptoms like fever, cough and shortness of breath typical of the disease. A second round of testing days later revealed the infection rate had fallen to 0.3 percent.

"On the second testing that was carried out, we recorded a 90 percent drop in the rate of positive cases. And of all the ones who were positive in the second testing, eight people were asymptomatic," said Professor Andrea Crisanti, an infections expert at Imperial College London on sabbatical at the University of Padua in Italy, Sky reports.

 

A 'few days' actuall have been 7-10 days.

 


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Posted 09 April 2020 - 05:45 PM

Also hot of the press, for anyone still considering the hopeless task of applying models untill the real data comes in:

 

 

COVID-19: On average, only 6% of actual infections detected worldwide

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Insufficient and delayed testing may explain why some European countries, such as Italy and Spain, are experiencing much higher casualty numbers (relative to reported confirmed cases) than Germany, which has detected an estimated 15.6% of infections compared to only 3.5% in Italy or 1.7% in Spain. Detection rates are even lower in the United States (1.6%) and the United Kingdom (1.2%)—two countries that have received widespread criticism from public health experts for their delayed response to the pandemic.

In sharp contrast to this, South Korea appears to have discovered almost half of all its SARS-CoV-2 infections.

 



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Posted 10 April 2020 - 10:08 AM

Also hot of the press, for anyone still considering the hopeless task of applying models untill the real data comes in:

Yes, the number of deaths relative to the number of infections  ratio is pretty much useless to understand what's going on. Germany is the european country that has been testing massively from the start. They were testing in a day what France, Italy or Spain could test in a week. That gave them a very low death ratio.



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Posted 10 April 2020 - 10:45 AM

Nobody really knows the number of infections in France. I read an article a couple of days ago ( I'll find the link later) that the government was hoping to do massive serology tests for antobodies at the projected end of confinement ( sometime in May), hoping that 60 to 70% of the population would have been infected already and developped immunity ( they are basically going for the herd immunity strategy without really saying it openly, as it tends to draw a lot of protests and criticism) , and then lift as many hard restrictions as they can quickly, but according to some modelisations, to this day less than 10% of the population has immunity, and they may have to extend the confinement longer than expected. 


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Posted 10 April 2020 - 11:32 AM

Yeah newer estimates at the fatality rate are in the range of 0.3-0.6%.  So France could expect 300,000 fatalities across its 70 million people.  And somewhere in the range of 1% could require ICU care, which means funneling nearly a million people through the French ICUs—each staying up to two weeks.

 

I don't think anyone is much past 10% prevalence or 10% immunity.  Even Italy.

 

Keep in mind after a year passes, about 1.5% of people are newborns, who are of course susceptible.

 

You can see in this model any disease with an R0 value above 1 requires a non-zero vaccination rate to eliminate, or to at least bring the disease "in check".  Otherwise, susceptible people are born at a sufficient rate to cause new outbreaks.  And it is quite possible these new outbreaks would occur quickly enough to strain the healthcare system, making herd immunity—without vaccine assistance—impractical.  In other words, unassisted herd immunity might not put the disease "in check".



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Posted 10 April 2020 - 01:26 PM

Yeah newer estimates at the fatality rate are in the range of 0.3-0.6%.  

 

 

In the US you don't need estimates as actual numbers are available. Today there are 16,697 deaths and 468,895 cases, giving a fatality rate of 3.6%. And given that more fatalities are always possible until these cases are resolved (and 90% are not), the actual fatality rate could be substantially higher.


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Posted 10 April 2020 - 01:54 PM

In the US you don't need estimates as actual numbers are available. Today there are 16,697 deaths and 468,895 cases, giving a fatality rate of 3.6%. And given that more fatalities are always possible until these cases are resolved (and 90% are not), the actual fatality rate could be substantially higher.

 

 

What we'd really like to know is the overall mortality rate from sars-cov-2 infection.  And that we don't know, because there certainly are an appreciable number of people that are asymptomatic and never tested.

 

We really like to know that number.  You'd have to do a random sample and test everyone for active infection and antibodies to get at it with any sort of accuracy.  The antibody tests are now available so the only thing in the way is the will to do it.

 

If I were to test in NYC, I'd get a computer program to select social security numbers of residents at random and ask them to be tested.  Some would decline so you'd have to have a way to pick alternates that didn't skew your results, i.e. you'd want to make sure that the people declining to be tested didn't have similar demographics (age, income, race, etc. etc), but it's very doable.

 

City the size of NYC?  Probably 1,000 people would do. Maybe less.



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Posted 10 April 2020 - 02:19 PM

Pretty good article on what's going on in Taiwan, Hong Kong and Singapore now

 

https://www.nytimes....ore-taiwan.html



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Posted 10 April 2020 - 03:08 PM

In the US you don't need estimates as actual numbers are available. Today there are 16,697 deaths and 468,895 cases, giving a fatality rate of 3.6%. And given that more fatalities are always possible until these cases are resolved (and 90% are not), the actual fatality rate could be substantially higher.

 

those numbers are under-estimates.  The number of positives is a bigger understatement, i think, than the number of deaths.  I bet there are close to 1.5 million with it in the US today.

 

I think whoever said on the first page was right about the statistics not being detailed enough, and how we will have to wait for annual stats to roll through for past comparisons (or was that a thread on reddit? haha).

 

Dynamics and demographics also matter.

 

The initial China infection was a pretty even spread, middle class, but the numbers were slightly under-reported.  Italy was middle class too, but it hit nursing homes as hard as young people in apartments.  France is more of an even spread than Italy, but too early to tell honestly.  NYC is a lot of poor people, and in NJ over half of nursing homes have been hit already.  Florida will be a lot of old people.

 

As for the sampling..

 

A sample of 1000 would certainly not be enough for something that only affects 1% of the NYC population.. you could easily get 5 positives or 15.. and the uncertainty in that measurement is large (200% error), because the sample size is unashamedly small.

 

If you select 1000 diagnosed people you are already skewing it, because the 15-50% of people who had no or only very subtle symptoms are already being excluded (it is very hard for asymptomatic people to get tested).



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Posted 10 April 2020 - 03:11 PM

Regardless, if the actual fatality rate is closer to 3% in the US (which is pretty terrifying), it just means the herd immunity thing is even more absurd.

 

Tens of millions would have to die and the hospitals would be a literal hell grounds, for years, while new people are born without immunity, enroll in Kindergarten and just keep drizzling fuel on the fire pissing in the wind of "herd immunity" :-D



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Posted 10 April 2020 - 03:39 PM

I don't think it's as high as 3%.  I bet it's closer to 1% when you count all the asymptomatic people.  South Korea's came down to that region when they rolled out very extensive testing.

 

 


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Posted 11 April 2020 - 04:19 PM

I posted this in the other thread about supplements and treatments as well. There is something odd going on with tobacco/nicotine and covid. This was an interview on radio, so no link sorry, but according to Prof. Delfraissy, head of the scientific council on covid in France, the overwhelming majority of cases with severe symptoms are all non-smokers. In the main hospital of Besançon ( east of France with highest number of cases along with the Paris region ) , Almost none of the cases in ICU are smokers

 

Now, consider that France is among the biggest smokers in Europe, maybe less than China, but probably the same or slightly less than Italy, Spain and Greece. Definitely more than the rest of western european countries. Also, there are more female smokers than men there.

 

We’re pretty sure non-smokers have healthier lungs than smokers, so what could it be in nicotine that acts as antiviral in this case ?



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Posted 11 April 2020 - 04:47 PM

 

Receminent of the cummunity of Vo, where after the first death 3% of the whole community tested positive, few days later retested 0.3% positive only.
 

 

A 'few days' actuall have been 7-10 days.

 

 

 

if anything, makes one question the sensitivity of the test -?

also it could be that the antibody level goes down quickly, which does not bode well for a vaccine.

 

 

 

 

I posted this in the other thread about supplements and treatments as well. There is something odd going on with tobacco/nicotine and covid. This was an interview on radio, so no link sorry, but according to Prof. Delfraissy, head of the scientific council on covid in France, the overwhelming majority of cases with severe symptoms are all non-smokers. In the main hospital of Besançon ( east of France with highest number of cases along with the Paris region ) , Almost none of the cases in ICU are smokers

 

Now, consider that France is among the biggest smokers in Europe, maybe less than China, but probably the same or slightly less than Italy, Spain and Greece. Definitely more than the rest of western european countries. Also, there are more female smokers than men there.

 

We’re pretty sure non-smokers have healthier lungs than smokers, so what could it be in nicotine that acts as antiviral in this case ?

 

I also noticed this oddity in the very first Chinese paper that listed mortality per gender, age and other factors. Smokers were listed in the very last row, making up a very small percentage of cases (something like 0.04 -?)

 

This could be due to not necessarily nicotine per se but upregulation of some relevant enzymes in response to smoke -? There was another paper, published much later, which sorta attempted to answer this question (i.e. is it due to nicotine or cigarette smoke). Alas, there were no vapers in their cohort, only smokers.



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Posted 12 April 2020 - 06:57 PM

I don't think it's as high as 3%.  I bet it's closer to 1% when you count all the asymptomatic people.  South Korea's came down to that region when they rolled out very extensive testing.

 

As of today, the case fatality rate in South Korea is 2%. 

 

Even in Taiwan, the CFR is 1.5%, They were the ones who immediately tried to warn the world that the communist government in China was lying and there WAS human-to-human transmission. The WHO shilled for China and the world didn't listen to Taiwan. The rest is pandemic history.

 

Taiwan hasn't had a new case in a long time, as far as I can tell. Then again, it is hard to know because WHO doesn't list data for "Taiwan". Disgusting.

 

The world CFR as tallied by Johns Hopkins today is 6.2%. Even if a whole lot of cases are being mislabeled as "corona deaths" and even if a lot of elderly people in Italy and Spain died at home because of no room at the hospital and even if we could count all of the asymptomatic cases, the CFR is still pretty bad.


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Posted 12 April 2020 - 07:20 PM

Taiwan hasn't had a new case in a long time, as far as I can tell. Then again, it is hard to know because WHO doesn't list data for "Taiwan". Disgusting.

 

Taiwan, Hong Kong

 

https://hgis.uw.edu/virus/

 

Taiwan-only

 

https://ourworldinda...oronavirus-data


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Posted 13 April 2020 - 10:17 AM

Preliminary result from the German study reportedly setting CFR at about 0.37% !

https://reason-com.c...-4-percent/?amp


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Posted 13 April 2020 - 12:11 PM

Preliminary result from the German study reportedly setting CFR at about 0.37% !

https://reason-com.c...-4-percent/?amp

 

Something is going on with Germany.  My friend joked they are the superior race after all.

 

I don't know, maybe they were seeded early but it hasn't spread to nursing homes yet.  Maybe they got a mild form of the virus.  Maybe it is something genetic.

 

They've also ramped up testing in the previous weeks, having administered more tests than any nation except the US.  They're realy trying to stay ahead of the virus, so many people may be diagnosed early and the disease often takes 1-2 weeks to kill.

 

Hard to say for sure.  The Diamond Princess was a pretty isolated experiment and it did suggest a low (<1%) fatality rate.  The disease may not be as devastating on an individual level as assumed, but on a community level it is much worse.  Hard to deny the reality experienced by Wuhan and New York, with hospitals completely overwhelmed.  One percent may not seem like a lot, but when they all need intensive care you realize how f*cked the city is.

 

It's good to see Australia moving in the same direction as China.  Seems like they are ahead of Italy even.  Here in the US we are still a laughing stock.


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Posted 13 April 2020 - 05:27 PM

  Here in the US we are still a laughing stock.

 

 

That is a little extreme. On a per capita basis, the U.S. fatalities from COVID-19 so far are a full 2 to 3 times less than most countries in Europe, except Germany of course.


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Posted 14 April 2020 - 01:00 AM

https://chemrxiv.org...phyrin/11938173

 

COVID-19: Attacks the 1-Beta Chain of Hemoglobin and Captures the Porphyrin to Inhibit Human Heme Metabolism

 

At the same time, orf1ab, ORF10, and ORF3a proteins could coordinate attack the heme on the 1-beta chain of hemoglobin to dissociate the iron to form the porphyrin. The attack will cause less and less hemoglobin that can carry oxygen and carbon dioxide.

 

I wonder if the high rate of deaths in Spain and Italy have anything to do with those countries having people with high rates of beta thalassemia? a.k.a Mediterranean anemia.

 

If many people in these countries have beta thalassaemia minor, they already have lower hemoglobin in their blood because they have a reduced synthesis of beta chains and are usually in a constant state of mild anemia.

 

If coronavirus does attack the 1-beta chain, wouldn’t this mean those who already have a reduced synthesis of beta chains have a higher chance of getting ill or dying from hypoxia?

 

I’m no scientist, so I might be making wrong connections here.


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Posted 14 April 2020 - 11:19 AM

https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC2893117/

 

Beta-thalassemia

 

The total annual incidence of symptomatic individuals is estimated at 1 in 100,000 throughout the world and 1 in 10,000 people in the European Union.

 

Definition

Beta-thalassemia syndromes are a group of hereditary blood disorders characterized by reduced or absent beta globin chain synthesis, resulting in reduced Hb in red blood cells (RBC), decreased RBC production and anemia. Most thalassemias are inherited as recessive traits.

 

 


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Posted 14 April 2020 - 01:08 PM

That is a little extreme. On a per capita basis, the U.S. fatalities from COVID-19 so far are a full 2 to 3 times less than most countries in Europe, except Germany of course.

 

Yes but our approach to slow the spread is to shut everything down.  A blanket, reactive approach.  Rural communities are going to feel mitigation fatigue for something that "hasn't affected them yet".  Ineffective cumbersome measures are being taken, while easy effective ones are being ignored.

 

The per capita testing is less than Spain, Germany, Canada, and Russia.  Kind of a moot point, but worth mentioning.

 

There is no unified federal response.  Nursing homes are left to themselves to interpret and follow CDC guidelines, then are hit with lawsuits when "failing" to do so (see: Life Care Center in Kirkland).  People are "asked" to isolate while jails become petri dishes.

 

We have no game plan for producing PPE.

 

The stimulus is dragging its feet while the government promotes anti-malaria drugs with known cardio-toxic effects.

 

Now compare the US to Taiwan, and tell me "laughing stock" is not understatement of the century.  Anyways, I'm interested to see how Australia responds to the winter months, when the virus supposedly flourishes.


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Posted 21 April 2020 - 12:19 PM

Antibody tests are only 80% specific, meaning they yield false positives for similar "false" antibodies.

 

Very hard to draw conclusions based on those..

 

I would say the pandemic is just beginning, less than 1% of the world has been exposed.


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Posted 21 April 2020 - 05:53 PM

Antibody tests are only 80% specific, meaning they yield false positives for similar "false" antibodies.

 

Very hard to draw conclusions based on those..

 

I would say the pandemic is just beginning, less than 1% of the world has been exposed.

 

I disagree. I suspect many more people around the world have caught the disease.

 

Many people in this forum have speculated this. The virus was most likely spreading in China already in November, but even in the best case scenario, it wasn't spreading in China until December 2019. Wuhan and the rest of China was not locked-down for almost a month. There seems to be no way the virus could NOT have spread around the world several times, considering that millions of people travelled in and out of Wuhan and around the world for a month or more before most countries took notice.


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Posted 21 April 2020 - 06:34 PM

I disagree. I suspect many more people around the world have caught the disease.

 

Many people in this forum have speculated this. The virus was most likely spreading in China already in November, but even in the best case scenario, it wasn't spreading in China until December 2019. Wuhan and the rest of China was not locked-down for almost a month. There seems to be no way the virus could NOT have spread around the world several times, considering that millions of people travelled in and out of Wuhan and around the world for a month or more before most countries took notice.

 

I agree with the November thing, but not necessarily the spread around the world several times by April thing.  And I really would like to agree to it, because it would be such good news.  But I can't.

 

The thing about this line of thinking is it presumes a low fatality rate and an incredible rate of spread, i.e. that where ever the virus is deaths will not necessarily follow until nearly everyone is infected.  And that thinking goes against the realities experienced by NYC and Wuhan, of having their medical systems overwhelmed in an epidemiological blink of an eye.

 

Even without lockdown measures, infections have historically taken a year or more to infect 50% of the globe.  Ironically it's not going from 20% to 100% exposure that takes so long, because of exponential growth, it's actually going from 0% to 20% that takes the longest, as each doubling phase is on the order of the incubation period.  And the increased travel and globalization of the 21st century isn't some cheat code around exponential growth, sorry guys, it's just very slow to get going even for insane values of R0 and low infection latency.

 

I don't think it traveled out of China much before mid-December, and more substantially in mid-January (around the Chinese New Year).  At that point I believe around ~50 major seeds were planted worldwide.  China is somewhat poor and a homely culture, so it is not surprising they could plant so "few" seeds.  And you can sort of trace it, Germany infected Italy, 3 places infected America, Iran got it from China directly, etc etc, primary seeds became secondary seeds, some roads went cold, and some hubs emerged.

 

Finally, over-estimates are a common problem in serosurveys due to low antibody specificity.  See this quotation from Vincent Racaniello, Microbiology and Immunology Professor at Columbia University:

A number of such studies have been done, and some have concluded that the results imply a low but substantial level of infection (even less than one percent of millions of people is a lot of infections). The conclusion of a new meta-analysis of H5N1 serosurveys is that most of the studies are flawed, and that the frequency of H5 infections appears to be low.

 

I submit to you the unlikelihood of even 1% of the world having been exposed to the very fatal (>50%) bird flu virus.

 

The only studies reporting sensitivity and specificity ratings on the anti-body tests have not received peer approval, and have all made ridiculous claims like:

79% sensitivity!
And 100% specificity.


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Posted 21 April 2020 - 08:40 PM

https://news.yahoo.c...-161418566.html

New studies suggest huge undercount of coronavirus infections — but are they right?

The number of COVID-19 cases in Los Angeles County may be more than 50 times greater than the official count, according to preliminary results from a new study by the University of Southern California, which estimates that as many as 442,000 adult residents of Los Angeles County may have already been infected.

The implication, as lead USC investigator Neeraj Sood told reporters Monday, is that “the true extent of the infection in our communities” is far greater than previously known.

“We actually found that about 5 percent of Angelenos have in fact, probably, at some time, been infected with COVID-19,” explained Dr. Barbara Ferrer, director of the L.A. County Department of Public Health, which partnered with USC on the study. So now “we are able to understand what the real denominator is” in calculating the rate at which people who are infected develop symptoms, require hospitalization and die.

But should we trust those conclusions?

If accurate, these estimates would fundamentally change our understanding of the coronavirus. Experts have long suspected that real-time testing is only catching a fraction of the total infections. But they have tended to put that fraction somewhere between one in five and one in 20. If in reality we’re only identifying one in 50 infections, or fewer, that would make COVID-19 a lot less deadly than previously believed while also making it a lot more contagious (and asymptomatic “silent carriers” a lot more widespread). That would be a paradigm shift in how to combat the virus.

The problem, though, is that these studies may not be accurate.

Known as a “seroprevalance survey” or “serosurvey,” the preliminary USC study is the second of its kind to come out in the past few days. The first was conducted by Stanford University researchers in Santa Clara County, Calif. — aka Silicon Valley — and released Friday. Together they represent the first attempts at this kind of research in the U.S.

Both serosurveys worked the same way. Researchers recruited hundreds or thousands of local residents to participate. They tried to ensure their “sample” was representative of the county’s overall population. They tested all participants with the same serology test, which is supposed to reveal who has already been infected by detecting antibodies in their bloodstream — even if they never showed symptoms or were never tested for an ongoing infection by the more typical nasal-swab method. Then the researchers tallied up the total number of positive test results, divided it by the total number of participants and “scaled” that percentage to the population of the entire county to estimate the overall seroprevalence of COVID-19 in the area.

Both studies also produced similar — and similarly startling — numbers. In Los Angeles, the USC team found that 4.1 percent of its 863 study participants tested positive; applied to the county as a whole, and adjusted for statistical margin of error, that would mean that anywhere from 2.8 percent (221,000) to 5.6 percent (442,000) of Angelenos have been infected, according to the USC researchers. (By comparison, 423,000 people had tested positive for COVID-19 nationwide as of April 9, when the study concluded.) Meanwhile in Santa Clara, the Stanford team tested 3,330 residents and estimated that 2.5 percent (48,000) to 4 percent (81,000) of the county’s population has been infected — or 50 to 85 times the official number of confirmed cases there.

Yet statisticians and infectious disease experts have been poking holes in the Santa Clara study since the second it came out.

One criticism is that the antibody test they used — a kit purchased from Premier Biotech in Minneapolis — has a false positive rate as high as 1.7 percent, according to some estimates, meaning that even if you test only people who have never had the disease, as many as 1.7 percent of them would still test positive.

To a layperson, that sounds relatively low. But when your sample size is small and the disease you’re testing for is rare, it’s actually big enough to render your results potentially meaningless. Of the 3,330 Santa Clara residents tested, 50 came back positive — or 1.5 percent. Most or all of them, in other words, could have theoretically been false positives.

Another possible issue is the way the researchers “weighted” that raw result, adjusting it statistically to reflect the county’s demographics and account for the inaccuracy of the test. This is how they ultimately estimated that between 2.5 percent and 4 percent of residents have been infected. But as experts have noted, such weighting introduces a lot of subjective judgments that can potentially skew the results — especially when the thing you’re trying to measure has a percentage prevalence in the low single digits.

Statistician John Cherian of D. E. Shaw Research, a computational biochemistry company, made his own calculations given the test’s sensitivity and specificity — and conservatively estimated the proportion of truly positive people in the Stanford study to range from 0.2 percent to 2.4 percent of the Santa Clara population. Adjusting for demographics, Cherian’s calculations suggest that county prevalence could plausibly be under 1 percent.

A final possible sticking point is the sample itself. Participants were asked to volunteer via Facebook ads, meaning, as computational biologist and statistician Balaji S. Srinivasan has explained, that the study might have attracted people who thought they were exposed to the virus and wanted to get a test they couldn’t otherwise get — and that those people might have in turn recruited other exposed people. The result could have been a “biased,” nonrandom sample with more COVID-19-positive participants than the population at large.

The Stanford researchers attempted to account for these issues in their study, and on Sunday they said they are planning to release a detailed appendix that addresses the criticisms and incorporates many of these suggestions into the paper itself.

The USC team did not immediately release their methodology, so it’s difficult to compare their findings to Stanford’s. One difference, according to the lead investigator, was recruitment: Instead of using Facebook, USC called and emailed a random assortment of Angelenos from the database of an L.A. market research firm, then set quotas meant to mimic the demographics of the county as a whole. But it’s entirely possible that many of the potential issues with the Santa Clara study apply here as well. After all, USC used the exact same antibody test, the same lab and many of the same overseeing researchers as Stanford — plus the sample size (863) was much smaller. Neither preliminary study has been peer-reviewed yet.

So how can we know the true extent of the coronavirus pandemic? We can’t — at least not right now. The key is to wait until a bunch of different studies — conducted with different technologies and analytic approaches — come out.

That will happen soon enough. The National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, Md., just launched a serosurvey that will collect and analyze blood samples from as many as 10,000 volunteers. A UC Berkeley project, set to begin in May, will test a large and representative swath of 5,000 East Bay residents. UC San Francisco is now testing all 1,680 residents of rural Bolinas and 5,700 residents of San Francisco’s densely populated and largely Latino Mission District for evidence of the virus. And teams in China, Australia, Iceland, Italy and Germany are expected to release the results of their serosurveys in the coming days.





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