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[Dorian Grey]

Dr John said it was taken from a pangolin, but enhanced through serial passage through humanized mice...  GAIN OF FUNCTION!  

 

This is so unbelievable, it wouldn't even make a good movie plot.  What are they thinking?  

 

Good night all!  

[Daniel Cooper]

Dr John said it was taken from a pangolin, but enhanced through serial passage through humanized mice...  GAIN OF FUNCTION!  

 

This is so unbelievable, it wouldn't even make a good movie plot.  What are they thinking?  

 

Good night all!  

 

By in large, the world is run by fools.

[joesixpack]

News Flash...  Those brilliant Chinese bio-lab researchers have created a new SARS-CoV-2 "like" coronavirus, with a ONE HUNDRED PERCENT FATALITY RATE in humanized ACE-2 mice.  

 

The virus appears to be transmissible by air/respiration just like COVID, but infects the BRAIN once it enters the body, and NOT A SINGLE TEST ANIMAL SURVIVED.  

 

The researchers say this virus needs more study, as we'll need to know how to combat these virus in the future if they ever spring up naturally from nature.  

 

Dr John is worried!  

 

https://youtu.be/Jcu...p_SXeauJ3f8Cy0B

 

So am I!  

 

Yikes, the video was taken down.

 

This reminds me of the research done at the time of the original Sars eruption in the early 2,000's. This was the first attempt to create a vaccine. My recollection is that they came up with some vaccines, that were used on test animals. All of the test animals died from the vaccine. 

Edited by joesixpack, 13 January 2024 - 07:35 PM.

[joesixpack]

I've always thought omicron was a BIG-FIX bug, created to overtake and eliminate the highly pathogenic pre-omicron pulmonary bio-weapons.  

 

They had to just go for it and cut it loose in Africa.  Can you imagine a scientific proposal to release another lab bug to fix the one that got out a while back?  

 

Nope...  Just get-er-done!  Whoa, where did that come from...  Praise God!  We're saved!  

 

That would be the same kind of thinking that is currently coming from Bill Gates, who thinks it would be a good idea to saturate the atmosphere with particles that would block sun light. While finally coming to the correct conclusion that the sun controls the climate, no thought is given to unintended consequences.

[Mind]

The link to the research is gone as well. Was anyone able to verify the paper? We we live in the age of AI when many things can be easily faked.

 

This dangerous research is like a machine that cannot be turned off. There appears to be no ethical people left in the top tier of the US government bureaucracy, certainly not at the FDA or CDC. When reasonable ethical people raise the alarm, they are silenced. What the hell is going on? 

[adamh]

Thanks. But by taking Chinese research under the CCP at face value, one is ill-informed.

That is for sure, all countries lie but china is the biggest liar. None of the figures or statistics are correct, they exaggerate or minimize all the numbers and cover up anything bad. They have an excellent pr department constantly claiming major discoveries which don't exist.

[Advocatus Diaboli]

The youtube video unavailable message states "This video has been removed by the uploader". It is unknown if the takedown was made by Campbell or not)

 

 

The video can be found on Rumble here (as of 1/13/2023 about 15:40).

 

A version of the study can be found here.

Edited by Advocatus Diaboli, 13 January 2024 - 11:47 PM.

[joesixpack]

The link to the research is gone as well. Was anyone able to verify the paper? We we live in the age of AI when many things can be easily faked.

 

This dangerous research is like a machine that cannot be turned off. There appears to be no ethical people left in the top tier of the US government bureaucracy, certainly not at the FDA or CDC. When reasonable ethical people raise the alarm, they are silenced. What the hell is going on? 

 

Here is a link to the research paper pdf.

 

https://www.biorxiv....4008v1.full.pdf

Edited by joesixpack, 13 January 2024 - 11:53 PM.

[joesixpack]

Apparently this research involving Pangolins has been done before, and will continue to be done according this statement from the end of the paper.

 

 

89. To the best of our knowledge, this is the first report showing that a SARS-CoV-2-

90. 106  related pangolin coronavirus can cause 100% mortality in hACE2 mice, suggesting a

91. 107  risk for GX_P2V to spill over into humans. Our findings are evidently inconsistent with

92. 108  those of Zhengli Shi et al. (5), who tested the virulence of GX_P2V in two different

93. 109  hACE2 mouse models. It is important to note that we did not isolate the wild-type

94. 110  GX_P2V strain. The study by Zhengli Shi et al tested the GX_P2V(short_3UTR)

bioRxiv preprint doi: https://doi.org/10.1...24.01.03.574008; this version posted January 4, 2024. The copyright holder for this preprint (which was not certified by peer review) is the author/funder, who has granted bioRxiv a license to display the preprint in perpetuity. It is made available under aCC-BY-NC-ND 4.0 International license.

111. 111  variant that we reported. However, the adaptative evolutionary changes of this variant

112. 112  during their laboratory culture remain understudied. In fact, according to additional

113. 113  infection experiments, the uncloned GX_P2V(short_3UTR) also resulted in 100%

114. 114  mortality in hACE2 mice. Due to the propensity of coronaviruses to undergo adaptive

115. 115  mutation during passage culture, we cloned and analyzed mutations in

116. 116  GX_P2V(short_3UTR), focusing specifically on the pathogenicity of the cloned strains.

117. 117  The high pathogenicity mechanism of GX_P2V C7 in hACE2 mice, in the absence of

118. 118  the wild-type GX_P2V control, requires further investigation. Compared to the original

119. 119  sequence of GX_P2V(short_3UTR), GX_P2V C7 has two amino acid mutations in the

120. 120  spike protein. Given the close relationship between coronavirus virulence and spike

121. 121  protein mutations (7), it is possible that GX_P2V C7 has undergone a virulence-

122. 122  enhancing mutation. However, it is important to note that our hACE2 mouse model

123. 123  may be relatively unique. The company has not yet published a paper on this hACE2

124. 124  mouse model, but our results suggest that hACE2 may be highly expressed in the mouse

125. 125  brain. Additionally, according to the data provided by the company, these hACE2 mice

126. 126  have abnormal physiology, as indicated by relatively reduced serum triglyceride,

127. 127  cholesterol, and lipase levels, compared to those of wild-type C57BL/6J mice. In

128. 128  summary, our study provides a unique perspective on the pathogenicity of GX_P2V

129. 129  and offers a distinct alternative model for understanding the pathogenic mechanisms of

130. 130  SARS-CoV-2-related coronaviruses.

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132 Lai Wei1,#, Shuiqing Liu1,#, Shanshan Lu1,#, Shengdong Luo2, Xiaoping An1, Huahao

bioRxiv preprint doi: https://doi.org/10.1...24.01.03.574008; this version posted January 4, 2024. The copyright holder for this preprint (which was not certified by peer review) is the author/funder, who has granted bioRxiv a license to display the preprint in perpetuity. It is made available under aCC-BY-NC-ND 4.0 International license.

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Fan1, Weiwei Chen2, Erguang Li3,*, Yigang Tong1,*, Lihua Song1,* 1 Beijing Advanced Innovation Center for Soft Matter Science and Engineering,

College of Life Science and Technology, Beijing University of Chemical Technology, Beijing, China. 2Research Center for Clinical Medicine, The Fifth Medical Center of PLA General Hospital, Beijing, China. 3State Key Laboratory of Pharmaceutical Biotechnology, Medical School, Nanjing University, China

#Contributed equally. *email: erguang@nju.edu.cn; tong.yigang@gmail.com; songlihua@gmail.com

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[Daniel Cooper]

The link to the research is gone as well. Was anyone able to verify the paper? We we live in the age of AI when many things can be easily faked.

 

This dangerous research is like a machine that cannot be turned off. There appears to be no ethical people left in the top tier of the US government bureaucracy, certainly not at the FDA or CDC. When reasonable ethical people raise the alarm, they are silenced. What the hell is going on? 

 

I fixed the link in my post. It had some google extension nonsense meshed in with the URL. It is off of www.biorxiv.org so the site at least should be legit.

 

 

[Daniel Cooper]

Francis Collins now admits that Covid leaking from the Wuhan Institute of Virology was not a conspiracy theory;

 

Francis Collins concedes Covid lab leak NOT conspiracy despite spearheading attacks against scientists touted theory

[Dorian Grey]

Daily Mail has a detail on the new Chinese Super-COVID

 

https://www.dailymai...-rate-mice.html

 

Chinese scientists 'create' a mutant coronavirus strain that attacks the BRAIN and has a 100% kill rate in mice - as they admit there's a 'risk it spills over to humans

 

Chinese scientists have been experimenting with a mutant coronavirus strain that is 100 percent lethal in mice — despite concerns such research could spark another pandemic.

 

Scientists in Beijing — who are linked to the Chinese military — cloned a Covid-like virus found in pangolins, known as GX_P2V, and used it to infect mice.

The mice had been 'humanized', meaning they were engineered to express a protein found in people, with the goal being to assess how the virus might react in humans

Every rodent that was infected with the pathogen died within eight days, which the researchers described as 'surprisingly' quick.

The team were also surprised to find high levels of viral load in the mice's brains and eyes - suggesting the virus, despite being related to Covid, multiplies and spreads through the body in a unique way.

 

 

[Mind]

Francis Collins now admits that Covid leaking from the Wuhan Institute of Virology was not a conspiracy theory;

 

Francis Collins concedes Covid lab leak NOT conspiracy despite spearheading attacks against scientists touted theory

 

Lots and lots of slow "CYA" coming out lately. No one is being held accountable for lying to the public, destroying small businesses, ruining careers and lives, etc... What is going on? Where are people with the power to correct these mistakes, fire people, remand the perps to custody while awaiting trial? There is no one. We are on our own - shortly to become victims of "disease X" that the UN/WHO/WEF keeps talking about.

Edited by Mind, 16 January 2024 - 11:53 PM.

[Mind]

Just another reminder that Fauci, Daszak, Drosten, etc. were well aware of the gain-of-function research going on way before the COVID panic. They had conferences and media interviews where they bragged about how easy it was to manipulate coronaviruses.

 

Then suddenly in 2020 they all claimed that the lab leak was ridiculous.

 

Why does anyone trust anything they say about amything?

[Daniel Cooper]

Just another reminder that Fauci, Daszak, Drosten, etc. were well aware of the gain-of-function research going on way before the COVID panic. They had conferences and media interviews where they bragged about how easy it was to manipulate coronaviruses.

 

Then suddenly in 2020 they all claimed that the lab leak was ridiculous.

 

Why does anyone trust anything they say about amything?

 

Fauci claims that what he was funding in Wuhan wasn't gain of function, but he does so by the expedient of having his own personal definition of "gain of function" that no person had ever used prior to covid-19 and no one believes except him. 

 

But it seems he will never be held to account of what he did.

[Mind]

New documents almost completely slam the door on the implausible "natural origin" theory. Fauci (and Collins, and Birx, and Daszak, and Baric, etc.) lied. Criminal prosecutions are desperately needed.

 

Remember Fauci said he had an "open mind" about COVID origins. That was a lie. Behind the scenes he was leading the charge to destroy anyone who promoted the lab leak theory.

Edited by Mind, 02 February 2024 - 07:14 PM.

[Daniel Cooper]

New documents almost completely slam the door on the implausible "natural origin" theory. Fauci (and Collins, and Birx, and Daszak, and Baric, etc.) lied. Criminal prosecutions are desperately needed.

 

Remember Fauci said he had an "open mind" about COVID origins. That was a lie. Behind the scenes he was leading the charge to destroy anyone who promoted the lab leak theory.

 

The material in that City Journal article is stunning. I previously thought that the case for a leak out of Wuhan was proved "by a preponderance of the evidence" (the standard of proof for a civil case in the US), but I think we've now moved to it being proved "beyond a reasonable doubt" (the standard of proof for a criminal trial in the US).  

 

People in our government, most certainly including Dr. Anthony Fauci, know damned well that SARS-Cov-2 leaked from Wuhan and that our health bureaucracy had a hand in directing and funding some of that effort. 

 

In a just world some of these people would be brought to trial and convicted. But of all the things that governments do poorly, protecting their own is not one of them.

[Mind]

This should come as a shock to no one. One of the lead "misinformation" researchers who called the lab-leak theory a "racist conspiracy theory", is a fraud and liar. He used sock-puppets on Wikipedia to make himself look like an "intellectual". Of course, the stupid national media in the US gave him all kinds of interviews and accolades during the COVID panic.

 

A lot of people are still unaware of the propaganda they were exposed to during the COVID panic, mostly led by the US/UK. Real peer-reviewed science was censored. Fake doctors and incompetent experts were trotted out on TV. The Lancet published fake studies. Dr. Fauci, Dr. Birx, Dr. Collins, and many other brazenly lied to the public.

 

Yet no one is being held accountable. We are in a dangerous period. If some other disease situation develops, the same incompetent liars are going to try to implement the same destructive health policies. Brace yourself.