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#1 Bruce Klein

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Posted 25 August 2002 - 01:25 PM


I'm still assimilating the Evolutionary Psychology (EP) concept into my life, but I'm starting to understanding "why" we think the way we think and I find it refreshingly helpful in my day to day approach to life. Especially with my interaction to other humans. Helpful in that I now have a clear grasp as to why I have deep urges, such as reproductive urges and others, and what forces have established these traits.

Our DNA, our code for life within each cell, has been written by billions of years of trial and error.. and it's immortal to boot!

This article is a good primer for this topic...

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Flameproof racism

On the Evolutionary Psychology mailing list, dangerous ideas thrive -- without the usual online rancor and hatred.

By Andrew Brown
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August 30, 2000 | Are blacks programmed by their genes to be promiscuous? Can we read any morality off our genes at all? Is religion pernicious nonsense? The field of evolutionary psychology attempts to illuminate such inquiries into human nature with the insights of modern Darwinism. It raises questions that have a prickly, intense and scary quality. To get inside them is like putting on a hair shirt with explosives strapped to it. Even in sober academic journals, the discussion can rapidly become a screaming match. On the Internet, home of the flame, any attempt at a reasonable discussion seems completely futile.

Even respectable academic online mailing lists often melt down into reciprocal accusations of Nazism and censorship, as did the mailing list of the Human Biology and Evolution Society, the trade body for evolutionary psychologists, five years ago.


And if the Nazis don't get you, the nutters will. I once watched a list on Darwinism disintegrate into a series of arguments about Karl Popper's philosophy of science, a subject that can make otherwise civilized people argue like fundamentalists who think they have identified the antichrist.

Given the volatility of online debate, the existence, then, of the Evolutionary Psychology mailing list seems like a miracle. All these unspeakable things and more are debated there, yet it is actually possible to learn new things -- and the arguments, however ruthless, are always polite. The list has nearly 2,000 subscribers, among them some of the most distinguished names in the field. Richard Dawkins was on for a while; Dan Dennett lurks there; and so does anthropologist Dan Sperber.

Active participants include Nick Humphrey, one of the originators of the "Machiavellian" theory of human intelligence -- namely, that consciousness is basically a trick to let us manipulate other conscious beings by imagining how the world looks from their point of view -- and Paul Gross, one of the authors of "Higher Superstition." But there are also well-known racist scientists such as J. Philippe Rushton, of the University of Western Ontario, and Glayde Whitney, who wrote a preface to one of David Duke's books. And on the other wing there are old New Lefties like philosopher Val Dusek, who witnessed firsthand the incident in which protesters poured water on E.O. Wilson during a debate between Wilson and his fellow evolutionary theoretician, Stephen Jay Gould.

Of course, actual dousing is quite out of date now. With modern technology you can pour vitriol on people instead. The Internet is the natural home of denunciations so furious that they could never be printed in magazines. Yet, somehow, on the Evolutionary Psychology list everyone is civil and everyone keeps reading -- a testament to the nimble moderation imposed by one man, Ian Pitchford, founder and editor of the list. In the unlikeliest of locations he has created one of the few places online that are truly inimical to pompous blowhards.

Pitchford has achieved this by being much more than your ordinary moderator. In effect, he has stopped simply being the maintainer of a mailing list and has become the editor of a new kind of magazine. The Evolutionary Psychology list combines the quick, cheap distribution of the Internet with all the advantages that real magazines traditionally have over mailing lists: a really diverse readership and an editor who sits right next to a large wastepaper basket. Complete Salon.com Article

Edited by Lazarus Long, 15 July 2003 - 02:34 PM.


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Posted 25 August 2002 - 02:16 PM

I did some quick reading to find out what the fuss is all about. I have read about EP before and I know how the discussion goes and why the term racism gets thrown about. A few years back, I read "The Bell Curve" because it was banned from discussion at UW-Madison. I wanted to know why a free and open University would ban a book. It is because the authors propose that human cognitive abilities differ from person to person. As the authors of "the bell curve" found out...that is a big no-no in today's politically correct world. I noticed that the Center for Evolutionary Psychology adamantly denies any connection to any study that shows any differences in cognitive ability, between anyone besides the differences between men and women. They must tread lightly otherwise they would face a complete shut-down of their field of study.

As we continue to study the brain, we are going to continue to find differences micro-structure that determine the differences in cognitive ability that exist. We will know why some people are math geniuses and why others are great artists.

Nice post BJ... a difficult topic.

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Posted 25 August 2002 - 02:52 PM

[!] UW Madison Banned the "Bell Curve"? [!] [angry] [!]

Idiots, now I remember why I left that atavistically PC community in the first place. I don't even agree with the arguments of the author but this is another example of making the problem worse not better. It is indulging the racism by avoidance rather than rational and constructive confrontation of the substantive elements of the topic. [angry]

[hmm]

I know the PC argument, "We don't want to credit these ideas because then somebody might think they are valid". And this is ridiculous. Racism hasn't gone away and isn't going to until people understand what drives the "Tribalist" ethos that most people confuse for genetics.

At the core of intellectual debate I am wholly on the side of William O'Rights, There is no room for censorship, especially with regard to ideas. I will leave this for a separate post but I do think that at times we moderate the debate as it overlaps into the *personal* precisely in order to NOT have to so with regard to the more important substantive issues.

I will add that I think it was a subtle aspect of the Computer Revolution that contributed greatly to the demise of the Soviet Union, GIGO.

As they attempted to modernize and go *Online* with many aspects of their technology and defense structures, as well as their burgeoning Socioeconomic Technocracy they ran catastrophically into a fundamental principle of Freedom of Speech they were totally unprepared for, * Garbage IN- Garbage OUT! [!]*

You can't get there from here, There was no way to make computer technology function under a Stalinist Mindset that believed it could totally control information and access to it. It is also why AI in the long run can't handle censored or limited access to information without potentially becoming psychotic. It is like building a neurosis into the program. Denial, avoidance and bad habit based on false assumption.

Anyway I digress... [B)]

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Posted 27 August 2002 - 01:38 AM

This interests me. I wonder if there is something here that may carry over into a better ability to augment our cerbral function.
LL


http://story.news.ya...ience_apes_dc_1

Gene Separates Early Humans from Apes

Mon Aug 26, 4:01 PM ET
By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Correspondent

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A gene that separates humans from the apes and all other animals seems to have disappeared from humans up to three million years ago, just before they first stood upright, researchers said on Monday.

Most animals have the gene but people do not -- and it may be somehow involved in the expansion of the brain, the international team of researchers said.

The gene controls production of a sialic acid -- a kind of sugar -- called Neu5Gc, the researchers write in an advance online issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences ( news - web sites).

"This mutation occurred after our last common ancestor with bonobos (pygmy chimpanzees) and chimpanzees, and before the origin of present-day humans," they wrote. Neanderthal skeletons, the oldest early humans from who DNA has been obtained, also lack the sugar.

"It happens to be first known genetic difference between humans and chimpanzees where there is a major outcome," Ajit Varki of the University of California San Diego, who led the research, said in a telephone interview. "We are exploring the consequences of this."

Varki said the role of the gene is not fully understood.

"The gene itself is involved in changing the surfaces of all cells in the body," he said. "The surface of all cells in the body is covered with sugars. This one is missing only in humans."

It may help influence how viruses and bacteria infect cells, and with how cancer cells interact, Varki said. "There are some clues that it might have something to do with brain plasticity," he added.

Humans and chimps share more than 98 percent of their DNA, so a few genes must make a big difference. Chimps and humans split from a common ancestor 6 million to 7 million years ago.

The collaboration of some of the top experts in various fields, ranging from anthropology to the genetic differences between people and apes, determined that this gene disappeared from humans between 2.5 million and 3 million years ago.

"It happened after the time that our ancestors stood upright, when their hands and so on were like ours, but their brains are still same size as that of chimpanzees," Varki said.

"That just tells you the timing is appropriate for the possibility that this may have something to do with brain expansion."

The team included anthropologist Meave Leakey of the Leakey Foundation in Nairobi, Kenya, an expert in early humans, and Svante Paabo of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, who helped study the first Neanderthal DNA.

Earlier this month Paabo's team reported that the had found mutations in a gene called FOXP2 that seems to be involved in the face and jaw movements necessary for speech. A relatively small change makes the human version of the gene different from the version found in apes, the researchers found.

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Posted 27 August 2002 - 02:28 AM

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Lazarus Long,

Maybe that Hollywood story (shown above) will become real some day.

I have included excerpts from another article (October 20, 1998 - Human or Chimp? 50 Genes Are the Key - By NICHOLAS WADE) below.

Bob

http://www.cnpt.embr...br/nov_1020.htm


Chromosome Cousins
Chromosomes of humans, chimpanzees, gorillas and orangutans, stained to show bands of active genes
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The idea is to identify the genes that are special to humans by sequencing the genome, or full DNA, of the chimpanzee and comparing it with the human genome.

Because chimpanzees are so closely related to humans, those genes that work differently in people than in chimpanzees could be all that is needed to convert a default-mode great ape into a human.

The number of such genes may be only a few hundred, out of the 100,000 genes that humans and chimps are thought to possess, with just 50 genes accounting for the cognitive differences, according to scientists at GenoPlex, a company in Denver that is exploring chimp genes for medical reasons.

DNA, the chemical tape that embodies the genetic programming, changes very slowly. Chimpanzees and humans are thought to have taken different evolutionary paths only five million years ago, a mere eye blink in evolutionary time. Because the two species shared an ancestor so recently, their DNA is on average 98.4 percent identical.

Dr. Francis Collins, director of the human genome project at the National Institutes of Health, said that having the chimp genome in hand would be extremely useful and that he would consider financing pilot projects to sequence the chimp genome, not from scratch but through its differences with human DNA.

Discovery of the genes that are special to humans might not be without hazard.

"The more we learn about the genes that are crucial for our uniquely human characteristics, the greater the temptation to produce humans that have optimal combinations of these genes, or even enhanced genes," McConkey said.



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"The more we learn about the genes that are crucial for our uniquely human characteristics, the greater the temptation to produce humans that have optimal combinations of these genes, or even enhanced genes," McConkey said.

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Posted 13 September 2002 - 12:05 AM

Question: Are the Bell Curves this Studies whitch try to explain that there is a connection between the lenght of Penises and Inteligenz? For example Black men are dumber cause they have longer penises.

Something about Censorship:
Here in austria its forbidden to sell A.Hitlers "Mein Kampf" but it is allowed to own this Book. Funny! isnt it? [blush]

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Posted 13 September 2002 - 08:22 PM

Question: Are the Bell Curves this Studies whitch try to explain that there is a connection between the lenght of Penises and Inteligenz? For example Black men are dumber cause they have longer penises.



I guess you could say that, The Bell curve is a lengthy *pseudo intellectual treatise* that attempts to categorize intelligence and "race" by a set of the kind statistically charged criteria that gets some to people to acclaim the kind of ridiculous comparisons that you allude to.

My opinion is that people that try to create such ridiculous paradigms as comparing penis size and intelligence are:

A. male
B: Dick heads by definition

But you have to wonder who is foolish enough to ask the question and who is naive enough to allow themselves to be measured?

Did Harpo Marx ever really say anything?

In the too weird to be true category as soon as I posted this my search engine for Reuters scientific news for the day put this at the top of the list.

Oldest Known Penis Is 100 Million Years Old

I guess intelligence cums in all shapes, sizes, and numbers [ph34r] ;)

Can anyone think of any single example of a bad idea that was effectively eliminated by censorship? Can anyone even name a single idea that went away because of censorship?

When should we censor censorship?

When it is licentiousness. :)

Censorship is just the license to steal our conscious intelligence. And one of the best examples of history's long list of really bad ideas. In fact it is right up there near the top. It has never worked and any culture that got close to effectively using it on itself ends up self destructing. But humans are a stubborn lot and never accept defeat for a bad idea easilly. In fact they rely on censorship to either cover up or spin doctor the results of the study. [blink] [wacko] [angry] [ggg]

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Posted 13 September 2002 - 10:09 PM

Question: Are the Bell Curves this Studies whitch try to explain that there is a connection between the lenght of Penises and Inteligenz? For example Black men are dumber cause they have longer penises.

Something about Censorship:
Here in austria its forbidden to sell A.Hitlers "Mein Kampf" but it is allowed to own this Book. Funny! isnt it?  [blush]

That's a bit like Prohibition in the '30's. You were allowed to drink alcohol but not allowed to sell it. [huh]

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Posted 13 September 2002 - 10:18 PM

I'm still assimilating the Evolutionary Psychology (EP) concept into my life, but I'm starting to understanding "why" we think the way we think and I find it refreshingly helpful in my day to day approach to life. Especially with my interaction to other humans. Helpful in that I now have a clear grasp as to why I have deep urges, such as reproductive urges and others, and what forces have established these traits.

Our DNA, our code for life within each cell, has been written by billions of years of trial and error.. and it's immortal to boot!

I believe the reason that Evolutionary Psychology is such a touchy topic is because it's a discipline derived from Sociobiology which in turn is closely (and wrongly)associated with Social Darwinism.

I'm not sure if you've read Robert Wright's The Moral Animal but it's a worthwile read and a pretty good overview of the topic (although he sidesteps many of the more controversial issues).

He uses Darwin himself as a case study. ;)

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Posted 13 September 2002 - 10:54 PM

I'm not sure if you've read Robert Wright's The Moral Animal but it's a worthwile read

Yes, I've just finished that one. Excellent work.

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Posted 13 September 2002 - 11:19 PM

I'm not sure if you've read Robert Wright's The Moral Animal but it's a worthwile read

Yes, I've just finished that one. Excellent work.

I picked up his new book Nonzero which I have yet to read but it looks quite good. ;)

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Posted 17 September 2002 - 10:41 AM

There is a new book out called "The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature". It is by Steven Pinker of MIT. A review of it can be found in the Sicence section of the New York Times. I would post it here but a person has to register with the Times in order to view it so I thought I would just posts the link

http://www.nytimes.c...ial/17PINK.html

It is a book favoring Evolutionary Psycology and Sociobiology.

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Posted 17 September 2002 - 11:34 AM

Heh, hurrah for evolutionary psychology?

This subject has depressed and simotaneously enlightened me (though now I'm happy bout' life ;)). When you realize that anger, fear, and the such are the result of past evolved lifeforms to promote survival, it sorta blows your self-esteem outta the water. Good thing I discovered the concept of the Singularity soon after I started thinking how pointless everything was...

Yay for such a grandiose scapegoat ideal based on materialism, but ironically so against pointlessness! [ggg]

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Posted 19 September 2002 - 10:06 AM

When push comes to shove, we all have our individual limitations and potential within those limitations to exploit. There's the tools you have at your disposal, and how you use them.

I think this whole discussion about a link between genetic makeup, and those limitations, is a good example of how to waste potential. As far as it does point something out, I hope that data is put to positive use. (callibration of educational material for instance).

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Posted 23 September 2002 - 07:26 PM

SCIENCE, THE HUMAN BRAIN

Hit The O-Spot For Out-Of-Body
Had an out-of-body experience? Scientists believe they know why
BY JEFFREY KLUGER


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TICKET TO RIDE: A shock here can launch the mind on a short, strange trip


Monday, Sep. 23, 2002
Shamans teach that out-of-body experiences are best achieved through meditation, reflection and transcendental calm. Scientists believe they have found a less celestial source: the right angular gyrus of the brain.

The new thinking is the result of the case of a woman, 43, who was undergoing treatment for epilepsy originating in her brain's right hemisphere. A team of researchers at the University Hospitals of Geneva and Lausanne wrote in Nature last week that to pinpoint the problem, it implanted electrodes in the suspect region to record seizures and used a weak current to map the brain. The doctors — and the patient — then got a surprise.

When the current was applied to a particular spot, the woman experienced a sense of lightness, as if she were floating above herself. More remarkably, she seemed to see part of her body as if she were viewing it from the ceiling. When the doctors asked her to move her limbs, she experienced other illusions: one arm seemed shorter than the other; her legs seemed to fly toward her face; if she closed her eyes, her upper body felt as if it were flying toward her legs.

The doctors believe her sensations were caused by a failure of the brain to integrate tactile sensations and balance. Transient out-of-body experiences can occur in anyone, but a glance around is usually all it takes to ground the brain in reality again. The right angular gyrus, however, sits quite near the vestibular cortex, the seat of balance. Jolting the Swiss patient's gyrus apparently threw the delicate feedback system out of synch — creating a state of neural chaos that was exacerbated when she moved her eyes and body. Whether shamans achieve the same state through meditation is impossible to say. But if they do, they have certainly found a more pleasant way to get there.


From the Sep. 30, 2002 issue of TIME magazine





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Posted 23 September 2002 - 07:43 PM

The Brain Connection

Myths About the Brain: 10 percent and Counting
by Eric Chudler, Ph.D.

Do we really use only a small portion of our brain? If the answer to this question is yes, then knowing how to access the "unused" part of our brain should unleash untapped mental powers and allow us perform at top efficiency. Let's examine the issue and attempt to get at the truth behind the myth.

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"The 'hidden nine-tenths' of your mental strength lies buried... discover, release and use it to gain new success, personal happiness—a fuller, richer life."
- advertisement for The Magic Power of Your Mind, W.B. Germain, 1956

"They say you only use 10% of it."
- advertisement for database software, 1999

"You only use 11% of its potential."
- advertisement for digital TV, 1999

"It's been said that we use a mere 10% of our brain capacity."
- advertisement for an airline, 1999


Advertisers believe it. The popular media promote it. Do we use only a small portion of our brains? If the answer to this question is Yes, then knowing how to access the "unused" part of our brain should unleash untapped mental powers and allow us perform at top efficiency. But is it true that we only use 10% of our brains? Let's examine the issue of brain use and attempt to get at the truth behind the myth.

Next Page....

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Posted 24 September 2002 - 12:47 AM

A lot of mysticism is starting to be explained away by rational thinking and scientific method. Of course this has always been the case throughout the course of history. First the "presence of god" feeling was enduced with a magnetic field, now out-of-body experiences are being produced by an electrical current. Pretty soon those "crossing over" shows on popular tv will have to branch out into something more exotic.

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Posted 02 January 2003 - 04:59 PM

I have read some really horrible pseudoscientific explanations of "race" lately and many are directly derivative of memetic definition. Memetics are to sociology what genes are to biology, and one aspect they have in common is the ability to adapt. In other words, mutate and evolve.

We must first establish a precise lexicon that is grounded in objective criteria if we are to transcend the limits of memetic paradigm in order to establish a rational definition of, and discourse on "Race".

We can't do, and this is the most difficult for many people, is let what we want to believe get in the way of actually observing the truth.

Toward that end I have a couple of suggestions, and an article.

First realize that no matter how much we use a word it doesn't necessarily adopt the truth of the application even if it obtains the "meaning" through a common misapplication. One such example is the use of the word “evolve,” in relation to individuals. It is objectively meaningless to say I am more evolved then I was at birth.

I, as an individual am capable of growth, learning, mutation, transcendence, and adaptation, but evolution is a collective phenomenon that only has meaning when applied to a large group such as a species. So it can be said that individuals mutate and species evolve.

Race is a word that in many memetic applications has become so subjective it lacks ANY scientific significance when utilized in a colloquial fashion. If there is a valid desire to in fact define race in a scientific manner then it is first necessary to establish valid and verifiable criteria with which to test the hypothesis of what "Race" in fact is.

All too much of what "Racial Characteristics" are purported to be can be scrutinized with a skeptics eye because they reflect the politics of tribalism and prejudice of vested interest. But they can't be overlooked because of how the very concept has wound itself into the practice of Social Darwinism as a memetic behavior of Humanity.

Race, if it is to have a meaning application with a genetic foundation CANNOT be simply synonymous with Tribe, Culture, or even its closest cousin, Ethnicity. Race reflects criteria that is too basic to large scale grouping of the Human Species so it demands a more valid and critical understanding.

So I ask you all to not only offer your definitions for analysis but to begin the search for realistic markers that can be objectively sought upon the map of the Human Genome. If the Human Genome Map is not the basis of the definition then I argue that it is not a scientific definition at all but a highly subjective social definition. In fact if such definitions are not grounded in observable and verifiable criteria they are a meaningless as the Theory of the Flat Earth and as reflective of such vested prejudice as the defense the Church made of such Ptolomeic Doctrine in the face of Copernican, Keplerian, and Gallelean Observation and Theory.

Just saying something is true doesn't make it so and the inverse is also true, Just arguing that something isn't true doesn't make it false.

The second caveat with "Race" is History. It must be a priori understood that the concept has driven a significant amount of behavior since prehistoric times and like religious belief has an impact on society regardless of the veracity of the underlying principles. What I am proposing, is that we objectify the criteria and better determine the meaning behind the behaviors.

Towards that end I would offer the following article on lactose sensitivity. Because it reflects a mutation in various regional groups that make in fact overlap the Ethnic characteristics of the ethnic groups in question, sufficient to establish a determinable "racial marker".

It is merely a suggestion and while this example may not meet all such objective tests it offers a rational point with which to begin assessing the Genome map for such markers. It is also a good example of how such a marker might be defined, and how I think the process should begin and proceed.

Comments? Suggestions? I encourage an open dialogue on this matter.

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Posted 02 January 2003 - 05:11 PM

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Monday January 14, 01:30 PM

http://uk.news.yahoo...4/12/cp3ue.html

Genetic basis for lactose intolerance revealed


A quick and cheap genetic test will soon be able to identify people with lactose intolerance. The test will be a boon for doctors, since many people suffer from the condition without realising it, and existing tests are time-consuming and unreliable.
For perhaps the majority of people in the world, including most southern European, Asian and African populations, lactose intolerance is the norm. It sets in at weaning or shortly after, when the body stops producing lactase - the enzyme it needs to digest the sugar lactose, which is a major ingredient of human and animal milk.

Without lactase, lactose passes through the stomach undigested and reaches bacteria in the large intestine. There some bugs feast on it, belching out by-products that can leave people feeling gassy and nauseous, or worse.
Now Leena Peltonen's team at the University of California, Los Angeles, has discovered the genetic basis for lactose intolerance. The discovery supports the theory that retaining the ability to digest milk evolved only in some peoples in the past ten thousand years, as an adaptation to dairy farming.


Drinking milk

Peltonen's team studied nine extended Finnish families, as well as some Germans, Italians and South Koreans. The researchers found two variations in the human genome associated with lactose intolerance.

One of these "single nucleotide polymorphisms", or SNPs, was present in all 236 people who were lactose intolerant, while the other was found in 229. Both SNPs are near the lactase gene, and probably affect proteins that regulate the expression of the gene.

The fact that the same variations occur in distantly related populations supports the theory that all humans were once lactose intolerant, and that "lactase persistence" evolved only after people domesticated animals and began drinking their milk.


Original condition

Lactase persistence also seems to be most common among peoples with a long tradition of dairy farming, such as northern Europeans, some groups in India and the Tutsis in central Africa. "I find it ironic that a so-called disease actually represents the original condition," says Peltonen.

It is a nice example of a genetic change prompted by a cultural practice, says Kevin Laland, an expert on the interaction between genetics and culture at Cambridge University. "There are bound to be thousands of such changes, but there are comparatively few where the gene has been isolated."

The widespread prevalence of lactose intolerance was only recognized in the 1960s. Before that, a dislike of milk in countries such as China was ascribed to cultural differences.

Journal reference: Nature Genetics (DOI 10.1038/ng826)

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Posted 02 January 2003 - 05:15 PM

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Iron Age Scots could have eaten milk with their porridge, says a British team.

They have found traces of bovine casein, a protein found only in cow's milk, on post-neolithic pot shards. It is the first time anyone has found traces of prehistoric milk.

The discovery suggests that people living in Scotland 2500 years ago had a much more sophisticated society than thought, says research leader Oliver Craig at the University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK.

"These were thought to be meat-farming people eking out a living. But if they were dairy farmers, they would have had a developed society," he told New Scientist.


Selective cull

Ancient dairy farmers would have had to slaughter male calves so their mother's milk could be taken for human consumption. A society that killed young cattle that could have grown to provide meat must have been fairly confident in its economy, Craig says.

Piles of neonatal cattle bones have been found at the Cladh Hallan site at South Uist, in the Outer Hebrides. It is impossible to judge the sex of very young cattle and be sure that all the bones are male, Craig says.

"But we do know they slaughtered around half the calf population. Our new finding supports the idea that these are male calf bones, and that the ancient Scots were dairy farmers," he says.


Gruelly porridge

Craig's team dissolved nine shard samples, to free any protein traces from the ceramic. They then used an antibody for bovine casein to identify traces of the ancient protein. Seven of the shards tested positive.

This provides solid evidence that the ancient Scots consumed cow's milk, but it's impossible to know exactly how they used it, says Craig.

The idea that they ate porridge isn't too far-fetched, he says. "Though all we can really say is that they had the right ingredients. They didn't have oats but they did have barley, which you can make into a gruelly kind of porridge - and they did have milk."

More at: Nature (vol 408, p312)

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Posted 02 January 2003 - 05:21 PM

Lasers reveal rewiring of the living brain

19:00 18 December 02
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A remarkable new technique for imaging the brains of living animals has revealed an intriguing and contradictory picture of the extent to which adult brains rewire themselves.

This rewiring could occur to encode new memories, for example, or to adjust to new environments. But while one group of New York scientist found the brain of mice to be very stable, another group found substantial changes.

Both teams used the same new technique, known as "two photon microscopy". This involves shining laser light into the brains of living animals and picking up the "returning light" produced by neurons engineered to express fluorescent proteins.

Wen-Biao Gan and his colleagues at the New York University School of Medicine studied the visual cortex of one-month-old juvenile and 10-month-old adult mice. They were looking at the rate of turnover of spines. These are tiny protrusions from the long slender dendrites that project from neurons and which facilitate signalling between them.

The researchers imaged the spines for various periods of time, ranging from hours up to four months. They found that in the young animals, about 73 per cent of the spines did not change in the course of a month. In the older animals, 96 per cent of the spines remained the same.

"These spines are very stable," says Gan. He thinks the findings should hold true in other parts of the brain too. The team thinks the stability helps explain how we hold onto long-term memories.


Regional differences?

However, Karel Svoboda at the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory and his group found much more plasticity. They looked at the barrel cortex, a part of the mouse brain that processes sensory information from the all-important whiskers. Svoboda studied young adult mice aged between six and 10 weeks. Images were taken every day for eight days and then more sporadically after that.

His team found a great variation in spine lifetime. About 17 per cent appeared in only one image, so lasted less than a day. Another 23 per cent lasted only about three days.

The remaining 60 per cent persisted for the full eight days, and most of those were still around after a month. The findings are consistent with the idea that even adult brains are able to adapt and they do so by sprouting and retracting dendritic spines.

What accounts for the differences in the teams' results is unclear. Ole Ottersen at the University of Oslo says it is most likely the result of looking at different regions of the brain.

"Whatever the case, the fact that imaging of the living brain has entered the microscopic arena represents a breakthrough that will have far-reaching implications for neurobiology," he adds.

Journal reference: Nature (vol 420, p 788, 812)

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Posted 02 January 2003 - 05:53 PM

Here is an example of another genetic amrker and specific mutation set that might be useful to discuss and use for referencing "racial distinctions".

LL/kxs

Gene study gives language lesson


19:00 14 August 02
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Two mutations in a human language gene have been strongly selected for over the past 200,000 years, new research shows. The finding provides evidence for the idea that language spread by giving a major survival or mating advantage to those who possessed it, and that it is not merely a handy by-product of big brains.

People with a faulty copy of the FOXP2 gene have problems applying grammatical rules and coordinating their mouth and tongue to articulate words. The gene's sequence suggests it switches on other genes, but researchers do not know which ones.

Now Svante Pääbo at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig and colleagues have sequenced chimp, gorilla, mouse, rhesus macaque and orangutan versions of FOXP2, in order to study its evolution.

Remarkably, there are only three changes between the human and mouse proteins. But two of these happened after the split between humans and chimps. And the new analysis of nearby DNA suggests these mutations spread rapidly and recently in humans.

"We have no idea how those changes were linked to language ability," admits Oxford University's Tony Monaco, who discovered FOXP2 and is also part of the team. However, Pääbo speculates that the changes allowed our ancestors to improve on rudimentary communication.


Global spread

Steven Pinker, a language expert at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology says the team's analysis refutes the idea that language is merely a handy by-product of having a large brain. "It suggests that language is an adaptation, a product of natural selection," he told New Scientist.

To uncover evidence of selection, the team looked in more detail at the gene in 226 humans from across the globe. In particular, they compared the intron sequence located next to the two mutations. This sequence is a chunk of DNA that is cut out before the message is translated into protein.

If the global spread of the two mutations had happened five million years ago, shortly after our ancestors split from early chimpanzees, some intron mutations would be widely shared. But the analysis showed multiple rare mutations in the sequences.

The researchers conclude that the two mutations spread rapidly at some point in the past 200,000 years.

Pinker believes the analytical approach used is powerful: "It's not an idle just-so story to say that something is a product of selection." The work demonstrates that the two mutations were rushed through the population because they conferred a considerable advantage, he says.
Journal reference: Nature (DOI: 10.1038/nature01025)

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Posted 05 January 2003 - 09:17 AM

Humans more similar than different
Ethnicity may be as good a guide to genetic susceptibilities as testing.
20 December 2002
TOM CLARKE

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Inuit or Basque, Laotian or Pashtun: we're much more similar than we are different, says the most detailed analysis of human genetic variation to date1.

When it comes to sensitivity to drugs or diseases, the analysis also suggests that a person's account of their ethnic origin is almost as reliable an indicator as intrusive genetic tests.

Around 95% of all genetic variation exists within populations. Just 3 to 5% of variation occurs between different ones, the study finds. "When the world is such a fractious place, it's reassuring to think about our similarities," comments Lynn Jorde, a population geneticist at the University of Utah in Salt Lake City.

Comparing nearly 400 genetic markers from over 1,000 people representing 52 different cultures and nationalities, Noah Rosenberg at the University of Southern California and colleagues searched for patterns of similarities.

Traditionally, researchers have divided DNA samples according to geographical location - North America and Africa say - or language, and looked for differences. Instead, Rosenberg's team "took an honest look at lots of DNA," says Jorde.

Previous studies relying on 20 or 30 markers have only found strong evidence of genetic variation between very isolated populations. The latest high-resolution analysis "allows us to answer questions people couldn't before," says study co-author Jonathan Pritchard, of the University of Chicago.

It reveals that humans fall into six broad genetic groups, corresponding to people living in Eurasia, the Americas, sub-Saharan Africa, East Asia and Oceania.

Identifying these groupings could be good news for medicine. Many genes for susceptibility to particular diseases, drugs and vaccines vary between populations.

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In the absence of evidence for genetic differences between populations, some researchers had begun to argue that simply asking patients their ethnic or geographic origin is not enough to determine their likely genetic background and that testing is required instead2.

For everyday medical purposes, intrusive genetic tests probably won't be necessary argues Pritchard. "The correlation between self-reported ethnicity and genetic clustering is very strong," he says. "Doctors can ask what ethnicity you are and go with that," he says.

Like previous analyses, Rosenberg's team identified big differences between very isolated populations such as pygmy tribes in Africa. They also highlighted new ones: the Kalash people of northern Pakistan, previously thought to be of East Asian origin, are genetically more similar to those from Europe or the Middle East, they found.


References

Rosenberg, N. A. et al. Genetic structure of human populations. Science, 298, 2381 - 2385, (2002). | Homepage |
Wilson, J. F. et al. Population genetic structure of variable drug response. Nature Genetics, 29, 265 - 269, (2001). | Article |

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Posted 04 March 2003 - 07:44 PM

I want to start this thread out with an article from today's news. It illustrates a fundamental (or paradigm) shift in how we are thinking about BOTH Evolution and Biology.

I have a lot to add on this but I definitely would prefer to hear how many people weigh in first. Please feel free to add relevant articles derived from your own research to support the arguments pro and con for the implied issues.

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Black Cats Provide Lucky Break to Disease Research
Mon Mar 3, 2:17 PM ET
By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Correspondent

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Black cats, once considered unlucky, may have provided a lucky break to disease researchers, according to a report published on Monday.

Different genetic mutations give black coats to different species of cats. Some of the mutations are in genes that, in humans, are linked with diseases such as AIDS, a team at the National Cancer Institute and the University of Maryland found.

Dr. Stephen O'Brien, Eduardo Eizirik and colleagues were wondering what made cats black -- not out of idle curiosity, but because such genes often confer protection against disease. Otherwise, animals with unusual coloring would go extinct.

"In understanding how wild species like cats evolve genetic resistance to disease, we might discover new natural genetic resistance that might help in human disease," O'Brien said in a telephone interview.

Black cats might be better able to hunt at night, he noted, "but there is another fascinating aspect which I noticed because I work with the Cancer Institute."

For instance, his team found that a gene called MC1R makes jaguars black when mutated. Humans also have an MC1R gene that, when mutated, gives some people red hair.

It is in a family of genes called 7-transmembrane receptors. A receptor acts as a doorway into cells and is often used by bacteria and viruses to infect cells.

"HIV enters cells through a 7-transmembrane receptor called CCR5," O'Brien said. "So perhaps the selective pressure that allowed these mutations to survive in cats may not be to camouflage... Perhaps the mutations cause resistance of the cats to bugs."

The team's next step is to look for whatever possible advantages the mutations may offer. Making the cats black may just be a side effect, O'Brien said.

He said that 99.99 percent of all mammal species that ever lived have gone extinct. "The ones we have now are the survivors," he added.


The research started because the team wondered why there are black jaguars, leopards and house cats, but no black tigers or lions, O'Brien said.

A domestic cat has about 10 genes for coat colors and coat appearance, resulting in the 40-odd breeds of cat, he said.

The black mutation is very common, so O'Brien and his team wondered whether it dated back to the earliest ancestor of all cats or arose separately among the species.

Writing in the journal Current Biology, they said they found that the black domestic cat, the jaguar and the small South American jaguarundi each derive their coloring from a different type of mutation.


This casts a new light on animals that at one point were even tortured by people who saw them as agents of the devil.

"We have had black cats and they have been mythical all along," O'Brien said, "but now they been demystified."

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Posted 15 July 2003 - 02:29 PM

Because the following article is about human evolution specifically and the evolution of language generally, it could be posted to many areas. But as I see it as a crucial link to the support of the theory of Human Selection and how this may relate to larger discussions of Universal Organization of complexity, as well as even development AI I think this is one that may get come to be cross linked often and should be posted in its entirety as well as doing our best to link up with the entire published database for it.

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Early Voices: The Leap to Language
By NICHOLAS WADE
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Bower birds are artists, leaf-cutting ants practice agriculture, crows use tools, chimpanzees form coalitions against rivals. The only major talent unique to humans is language, the ability to transmit encoded thoughts from the mind of one individual to another.

Because of language's central role in human nature and sociality, its evolutionary origins have long been of interest to almost everyone, with the curious exception of linguists.

As far back as 1866, the Linguistic Society of Paris famously declared that it wanted no more speculative articles about the origin of language.

More recently, many linguists have avoided the subject because of the influence of Noam Chomsky, a founder of modern linguistics and still its best-known practitioner, who has been largely silent on the question.

Dr. Chomsky's position has "only served to discourage interest in the topic among theoretical linguists," writes Dr. Frederick J. Newmeyer, last year's president of the Linguistic Society of America, in "Language Evolution," a book of essays being published this month by Oxford University Press in England.

In defense of the linguists' tepid interest, there have until recently been few firm facts to go on. Experts offered conflicting views on whether Neanderthals could speak. Sustained attempts to teach apes language generated more controversy than illumination.

But new research is eroding the idea that the origins of language are hopelessly lost in the mists of time. New clues have started to emerge from archaeology, genetics and human behavioral ecology, and even linguists have grudgingly begun to join in the discussion before other specialists eat their lunch.

"It is important for linguists to participate in the conversation, if only to maintain a position in this intellectual niche that is of such commanding interest to the larger scientific public," writes Dr. Ray Jackendoff, Dr. Newmeyer's successor at the linguistic society, in his book "Foundations of Language."

Geneticists reported in March that the earliest known split between any two human populations occurred between the !Kung of southern Africa and the Hadza of Tanzania. Since both of these very ancient populations speak click languages, clicks may have been used in the language of the ancestral human population. The clicks, made by sucking the tongue down from the roof of the mouth (and denoted by an exclamation point), serve the same role as consonants.

That possible hint of the first human tongue may be echoed in the archaeological record. Humans whose skeletons look just like those of today were widespread in Africa by 100,000 years ago. But they still used the same set of crude stone tools as their forebears and their archaic human contemporaries, the Neanderthals of Europe.

Then, some 50,000 years ago, some profound change took place. Settlements in Africa sprang to life with sophisticated tools made from stone and bone, art objects and signs of long distance trade.

Though some archaeologists dispute the suddenness of the transition, Dr. Richard Klein of Stanford argues that the suite of innovations reflects some specific neural change that occurred around that time and, because of the advantage it conferred, spread rapidly through the population.

That genetic change, he suggests, was of such a magnitude that most likely it had to do with language, and was perhaps the final step in its evolution. If some neural change explains the appearance of fully modern human behavior some 50,000 years ago, "it is surely reasonable to suppose that the change promoted the fully modern capacity for rapidly spoken phonemic speech," Dr. Klein has written.



Listening to Primates

Apes' Signals Fall Short of Language


At first glance, language seems to have appeared from nowhere, since no other species speaks. But other animals do communicate. Vervet monkeys have specific alarm calls for their principal predators, like eagles, leopards, snakes and baboons.

Researchers have played back recordings of these calls when no predators were around and found that the vervets would scan the sky in response to the eagle call, leap into trees at the leopard call and look for snakes in the ground cover at the snake call.

Vervets can't be said to have words for these predators because the calls are used only as alarms; a vervet can't use its baboon call to ask if anyone noticed a baboon around yesterday. Still, their communication system shows that they can both utter and perceive specific sounds.

Dr. Marc Hauser, a psychologist at Harvard who studies animal communication, believes that basic systems for both the perception and generation of sounds are present in other animals. "That suggests those systems were used way before language and therefore did not evolve for language, even though they are used in language," he said.

Language, as linguists see it, is more than input and output, the heard word and the spoken. It's not even dependent on speech, since its output can be entirely in gestures, as in American Sign Language. The essence of language is words and syntax, each generated by a combinatorial system in the brain.


If there were a single sound for each word, vocabulary would be limited to the number of sounds, probably fewer than 1,000, that could be distinguished from one another. But by generating combinations of arbitrary sound units, a copious number of distinguishable sounds becomes available. Even the average high school student has a vocabulary of 60,000 words.

The other combinatorial system is syntax, the hierarchical ordering of words in a sentence to govern their meaning.

Chimpanzees do not seem to possess either of these systems. They can learn a certain number of symbols, up to 400 or so, and will string them together, but rarely in a way that suggests any notion of syntax. This is not because of any poverty of thought. Their conceptual world seems to overlap to some extent with that of people: they can recognize other individuals in their community and keep track of who is dominant to whom. But they lack the system for encoding these thoughts in language.

How then did the encoding system evolve in the human descendants of the common ancestor of chimps and people?


Language Precursors

Babbling and Pidgins Hint at First Tongue


One of the first linguists to tackle this question was Dr. Derek Bickerton of the University of Hawaii. His specialty is the study of pidgins, which are simple phrase languages made up from scratch by children or adults who have no language in common, and of creoles, the successor languages that acquire inflection and syntax.

Dr. Bickerton developed the idea that a proto-language must have preceded the full-fledged syntax of today's discourse. Echoes of this proto-language can be seen, he argued, in pidgins, in the first words of infants, in the symbols used by trained chimpanzees and in the syntax-free utterances of children who do not learn to speak at the normal age.

In a series of articles, Dr. Bickerton has argued that humans may have been speaking proto-language, essentially the use of words without syntax, as long as two million years ago. Modern language developed more recently, he suggests, perhaps with appearance of anatomically modern humans some 120,000 years ago.

The impetus for the evolution of language, he believes, occurred when human ancestors left the security of the forest and started foraging on the savanna. "The need to pass on information was the driving force," he said in an interview.

Foragers would have had to report back to others what they had found. Once they had developed symbols that could be used free of context — a general word for elephant, not a vervet-style alarm call of "An elephant is attacking!" — early people would have taken the first step toward proto-language. "Once you got it going, there is no way of stopping it," Dr. Bickerton said.

But was the first communicated symbol a word or a gesture? Though language and speech are sometimes thought of as the same thing, language is a coding system and speech just its main channel.

Dr. Michael Corballis, a psychologist at the University of Auckland in New Zealand, believes the gesture came first, in fact as soon as our ancestors started to walk on two legs and freed the hands for making signs.

Chimpanzees have at least 30 different gestures, mostly used to refer to other individuals. Hand gestures are still an expressive part of human communication, Dr. Corballis notes, so much so that people even gesticulate while on the telephone.

He believes that spoken words did not predominate over signed ones until the last 100,000 years or so, when a genetic change may have perfected human speech and led to its becoming a separate system, not just a grunted accompaniment for gestures.

Critics of Dr. Corballis's idea say gestures are too limited; they don't work in the dark, for one thing. But many concede the two systems may both have played some role in the emergence of language.


Search for Incentives

As Societies Grew the Glue Was Gossip


Dr. Bickerton's idea that language must have had an evolutionary history prompted other specialists to wonder about the selective pressure, or evolutionary driving force, behind the rapid emergence of language.

In the mere six million years since chimps and humans shared a common ancestor, this highly complex faculty has suddenly emerged in the hominid line alone, along with all the brain circuits necessary to map an extremely rapid stream of sound into meaning, meaning into words and syntax, and intended sentence into expressed utterance.

It is easy to see in a general way that each genetic innovation, whether in understanding or in expressing language, might create such an advantage for its owners as to spread rapidly through a small population.

"No one will take any notice of the guy who says `Gu-gu-gu'; the one with the quick tongue will get the mates," Dr. Bickerton said. But what initiated this self-sustaining process?

Besides Dr. Bickerton's suggestion of the transition to a foraging lifestyle, another idea is that of social grooming, which has been carefully worked out by Dr. Robin Dunbar, an evolutionary psychologist at the University of Liverpool in England.
Dr. Dunbar notes that social animals like monkeys spend an inordinate amount of time grooming one another. The purpose is not just to remove fleas but also to cement social relationships. But as the size of a group increases, there is not time for an individual to groom everyone.

Language evolved, Dr. Dunbar believes, as a better way of gluing a larger community together. Some 63 percent of human conversation, according to his measurements, is indeed devoted to matters of social interaction, largely gossip, not to the exchange of technical information, Dr. Bickerton's proposed incentive for language.

Dr. Steven Pinker of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, one of the first linguists to acknowledge that language may be subject to natural selection, disputes Dr. Dunbar's emphasis on social bonding; a fixed set of greetings would suffice, in his view.

Dr. Pinker said it was just as likely that language drove sociality: it was because people could exchange information that it became more worthwhile to hang out together.

"Three key features of the distinctively human lifestyle — know-how, sociality and language — co-evolved, each constituting a selection pressure for the others," Dr. Pinker writes in "Language Evolution," the new book of essays.

But sociality, from Dr. Dunbar's perspective, helps explain another feature of language: its extreme corruptibility. To convey information, a stable system might seem most efficient, and surely not beyond nature's ability to devise. But dialects change from one village to another, and languages shift each generation.
The reason, Dr. Dunbar suggests, is that language also operates as a badge to differentiate the in group from outsiders; thus the Gileadites could pick out and slaughter any Ephraimite asked to say "shibboleth" because, so the writer of Judges reports, "He said sibboleth: for he could not frame to pronounce it right."


Language in the Genome

From Family Failing First Gene Emerges


A new approach to the evolution of language seems to have been opened with studies of a three-generation London family known as KE. Of its 29 members old enough to be tested, 14 have a distinctive difficulty with communication. They have trouble pronouncing words properly, speaking grammatically and making certain fine movements of the lips and tongue.

Asked to repeat a nonsense phrase like "pataca pataca pataca," they trip over each component as if there were three different words.

Some linguists have argued that the KE family's disorder has nothing specific to do with language and is some problem that affects the whole brain. But the I.Q. scores of affected and unaffected members overlap, suggesting the language systems are specifically at fault. Other linguists have said the problem is just to do with control of speech. But affected members have problems writing as well as speaking.

The pattern of inheritance suggested that a single defective gene was at work, even though it seemed strange that a single gene could have such a broad effect. Two years ago, Dr. Simon Fisher and Prof. Tony Monaco, geneticists at the University of Oxford in England, discovered the specific gene that is changed in the KE family. Called FOXP2, its role is to switch on other genes, explaining at once how it may have a range of effects. FOXP2 is active in specific regions of the brain during fetal development.

The gene's importance in human evolution was underlined by Dr. Svante Paabo and colleagues at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany. In a study last year they reported that FOXP2 is highly conserved in evolution — in other words, that the precise sequence of units in FOXP2's protein product is so important that any change is likely to lead to its owner's death.

In the 70 million years since people and mice shared a common ancestor, there have been just three changes in the FOXP2 protein's 715 units, Dr. Paabo reported. But two of those changes occurred in the last six million years, the time since humans and chimps parted company, suggesting that changes in FOXP2 have played some important role in human evolution.

Sampling the DNA of people around the world, Dr. Paabo found signs of what geneticists call a selective sweep, meaning that the changed version of FOXP2 had spread through the human population, presumably because of some enormous advantage it conferred.

That advantage may have been the perfection of speech and language, from a barely comprehensible form like that spoken by the affected KE family members to the rapid articulation of ordinary discourse. It seems to have taken place about 100,000 years ago, Dr. Paabo wrote, before modern humans spread out of Africa, and is "compatible with a model in which the expansion of modern humans was driven by the appearance of a more proficient spoken language."

FOXP2 gives geneticists what seems to be a powerful entry point into the genetic and neural basis for language. By working out what other genes it interacts with, and the neural systems that these genes control, researchers hope to map much of the circuitry involved in language systems.

Ending the Silence

Linguists Return to Ideas of Origins


The crescendo of work by other specialists on language evolution has at last provoked linguists' attention, including that of Dr. Chomsky. Having posited in the early 1970's that the ability to learn the rules of grammar is innate, a proposition fiercely contested by other linguists, Dr. Chomsky might be expected to have shown keen interest in how that innateness evolved. But he has said very little on the subject, a silence that others have interpreted as disdain.

As Dr. Jackendoff, the president of the Linguistic Society of America, writes: "Opponents of Universal Grammar argue that there couldn't be such a thing as Universal Grammar because there is no evolutionary route to arrive at it.

Chomsky, in reply, has tended to deny the value of evolutionary argumentation."
But Dr. Chomsky has recently taken a keen interest in the work by Dr. Hauser and his colleague Dr. W. Tecumseh Fitch on communication in animals. Last year the three wrote an article in Science putting forward a set of propositions about the way that language evolved. Based on experimental work by Dr. Hauser and Dr. Fitch, they argue that sound perception and production can be seen in other animals, though they may have been tweaked a little in hominids.

A central element in language is what linguists call recursion, the mind's ability to bud one phrase off another into the syntax of an elaborate sentence. Though recursion is not seen in animals, it could have developed, the authors say, from some other brain system, like the one animals use for navigation.

Constructing a sentence, and going from A to Z through a series of landmarks, could involve a similar series of neural computations. If by some mutation a spare navigation module developed in the brain, it would have been free to take on other functions, like the generation of syntax. "If that piece got integrated with the rest of the cognitive machinery, you are done, you get music, morality, language," Dr. Hauser said.

The researchers contend that many components of the language faculty exist in other animals and evolved for other reasons, and that it was only in humans that they all were linked. This idea suggests that animals may have more to teach about language than many researchers believe, but it also sounds like a criticism of evolutionary psychologists like Dr. Pinker and Dr. Dunbar, who seek to explain language as a faculty forced into being by specifics of the human lifestyle.

Dr. Chomsky rejects the notion that he has discouraged study of the evolution of language, saying his views on the subject have been widely misinterpreted.

"I have never expressed the slightest objection to work on the evolution of language," he said in an e-mail message. He outlined his views briefly in lectures 25 years ago but left the subject hanging, he said, because not enough was understood. He still believes that it is easy to make up all sorts of situations to explain the evolution of language but hard to determine which ones, if any, make sense.

But because of the importance he attaches to the subject, he returned to it recently in the article with Dr. Hauser and Dr. Fitch. By combining work on speech perception and speech production with a study of the recursive procedure that links them, "the speculations can be turned into a substantive research program," Dr. Chomsky said.

Others see Dr. Chomsky's long silence on evolution as more consequential than he does. "The fact is that Chomsky has had, and continues to have, an outsize influence in linguistics," Dr. Pinker said in an e-mail message. Calling Dr. Chomsky both "undeniably, a brilliant thinker" and "a brilliant debating tactician, who can twist anything to his advantage," Dr. Pinker noted that Dr. Chomsky "has rabid devotees, who hang on his every footnote, and sworn enemies, who say black whenever he says white."

"That doesn't leave much space," Dr. Pinker went on, "for linguists who accept some of his ideas (language as a mental, combinatorial, complex, partly innate system) but not others, like his hostility to evolution or any other explanation of language in terms of its function."

Biologists and linguists have long inhabited different worlds, with linguists taking little interest in evolution, the guiding theory of all biology. But the faculty for language, along with the evidence of how it evolved, is written somewhere in the now decoded human genome, waiting for biologists and linguists to identify the genetic program that generates words and syntax.

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Posted 15 July 2003 - 03:40 PM

This last article focuses in on a very important point that the old Linguist Tradition has repeatedly failed to recognize! It's nice to see an old paradigm crumble in realtime. Hurrah for the evpsych framework!

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Posted 10 September 2003 - 07:30 PM

I am going to cross link these two threads but keep them separate for the moment. Clearly they overlap.

Brains, memory, and behavior
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Posted 12 September 2003 - 05:11 AM

An interesting idea. I wonder if the expression of the language gene was made possible by the shrinking of the jaw made possible by the practice of eating cooked food as opposed to eating tougher raw varieties? Combine it with the idea that we need less brainpower to acutually digest softer foods, freeing up brainspace for something else. Could this mean that we could be due for another major evolutionary jump soon due to microwave cooking? Those of us that eat the stuff that is!

I am kind of glad I'm in Australia, here at the university I am studying at, (James Cook University) we have been encouraged to read about The Bell Curve. We will be discussing it in a tutorial next week. I'm going to wear armour for that one! Especially considering my views on PC! ;)

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Posted 12 September 2003 - 05:37 AM

As a small point of reference the fossil record shows the characteristic human jaw predating fire by well over a million years. It is the same with fur we lost our hairy coats long before we figured out how to wear clothes.

But it is the communications web that is the modern catalyst of the evolutionary leap, as protein was the catalyst for the issue of foods for the brain when we went from scavenger gatherer to more sedentary, and as fire was a catalyst by giving us a command over environment as much as disinfecting and preserving our food more than just making it more palatable. Smoked meats were the stocks against lean times, famine was an annual ritual that many did not survive.

But proto-linguistic behavior may have its origins long before fire, clothes, and certainly sedentary dwellings. Our language probably is an outgrowth of another characteristic I theorize, our innate primate social behaviors combined with parroting type mimicry as a survival characteristic.

We know howler monkeys and other simians have this characteristic and we are large enough, with large enough cranial capacity to have made the leap to language from a basic naming/signing/signaling stage combined with these subtle mutations to the brain that enhanced ability and began the parallel transmission of memetic advantage through learning along with heightened ability from viable genetic mutations.

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Posted 15 September 2003 - 01:27 AM

I just read something interesting about our hearing abilities, we have a 'boosted' audio range in our hearing, and it lines up roughly with the common frequencies of speech. The theory is that this 'boosted' range is on account of resonance in our outer ear. This resonance is caused by the sound waves entering the ear and bouncing off the eardrum, then encountering new sound waves as they then try to leave the ear. This is caused precisely by the distance between the pinnae (the visible ear) and the eardrum. It would be interesting to see if the lower primates have this phenomena.

I have a question for you Laz, do you think western human evolution has been arrested by our tendancy towards marrage? I would suggest that if there is going to be an evolutionary leap, it would come from an area of humanity where it has the opportunity to spread. Here in Australia, we are down to 1.7 children per couple. Any mutation is going to have to fight really hard, under these circumstances. Could our social constructs have in fact doomed us to decline and possible extinction?




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