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[glexia]

Hi!

I know a woman who has a son who is diabetic. He doesn´t follow the recommendations on nutrition of her and she is desesperate.

She has said to me that he doesn´t matter to take pills. I have thought if you can help him and recommend some suplementation (Now he takesinsulin 3 times a day) like, for example, R-ALA, Carnosine, Benfotiamine, etc ,what dose he must take and when.

I´d be grateful with any help on this topic . I come to you since you are documented well about this..

Thanks

[glexia]

Ah! He is 20 years old .

[scottl]

I've worked with a number of diabetics. I'm confused:

"She has said to me that he doesn´t matter to take pills"

I"m sure it is a language problem, but can she get him to take supps? And can she get him to eat a decent diet?

[FunkOdyssey]

She's saying he won't adhere to a good diet, but doesn't have any problem popping pills.

[scottl]

How bad is the diet? If he's eating sugar frosted flakes three times a day I 'm not sure how much pills will help that much.

[glexia]

( FunkOdyssey)

She's saying he won't adhere to a good diet, but doesn't have any problem popping pills

Exactly [thumb]



(scottl)

How bad is the diet? If he's eating sugar frosted flakes three times a day I 'm not sure how much pills will help that much

His mother says that at home he try to eat well, but when remains with his friends takes any thing: chocolate milk, crackers... ..perhaps to take some suplementation could compensate that.

[scottl]

Is he monitoring his blood sugar?

Height/weight? (roughly)

Location: Alicante (Spain)

Can you get most supps or are there problems getting some?

[kenj]

It's vital that he carefully selects what he puts in his mouth (it is for all of us anyway), - faulty nutrition (processed carbohydrates and saturated and trans fats) combined with a sedentary lifestyle are key factors for developing diabetes.
Of diagnosed cases there are more than 10 millions americans with adult-onset diabetes and ANOTHER 10 millions are undiagnosed and many millions more are actually pre-diabetic 1 and the numbers are disturbingly increasing.
The ironic thing is that we are provoking it ourselves.

I was brought up on white bread, milk, potatoes, pasta and the occasional apple in the best interest from my parents. [sfty]
This day I just can't function optimally on a cup of coffee with a donut for breakfast, - can anyone?
I won't add to the statistics and consider it my duty to educate my future kids in this matter so they'll act smart and responsible.
It won't necessarily be an easy task.
It's not about feeling guilty, - as long as the kids KNOW and UNDERSTAND the very real danger of faulty nutrition they should be able to make up their own minds and act upon what serves THEM the best once they become adults.

1. L. Stoneham, "Diabetes on a rampage", Tex Med. 2001 Nov;97(11):42-8.

[glexia]

(scottl)

Is he monitoring his blood sugar?

Height/weight? (roughly)

Location: Alicante (Spain)

Can you get most supps or are there problems getting some?

About blood sugar ... i think he is not very conscient of his illness and he doesn´t monitoring his blood sugar everyday, or every week..he does it much less often.. [angry]

I will talk with his mother on Monday and i´ll give you more concrete data.



kenj, Yes i´m with you about this topic...but many young people do not realizes many things until it happens something that frighten them. ..y I believe that is what will pass to him if doesn´t pay attention to the advise of his mother. ..



Thanks ! [thumb]

[tham]

I've been told that Barry Sear's Zone Diet is very
beneficial for diabetics.

Basically, it's a lower carbohydrate, higher protein and
moderate fat diet, in the ratio of 40-30-30 respectively.

In terms of the typical Asian rice diet, it's basically far
lesser rice, much more meat and moderate vegetables.

One of my friends here attended a talk some time ago
organized by a local health food supplier who happened
to be a staunch proponent of this diet. The talk was not
so much to promote his products, but rather to encourage
the benefits of the Zone diet.

In that talk, some members of the public who also followed
that diet came up and recounted their experiences. One was
an engineer who mentioned that his diabetes had been
advanced to the point of impending kidney failure despite
following doctors' conventional advice of a high complex
carbohydrate, low fat and low protein diet all along. On
switching to the Zone diet, his kidneys recovered and
his diabetic condition improved dramatically.

His diet guidelines were simple for each meal - one fistfull of
rice, two fistfulls of meat and one of greens. I'm not sure
how this would translate into the Western diet.

This friend himself, whose cholesterol was hovering
around 270 mg/dl, tried the Zone diet too. Over a period
of about 6 months, he faxed his cholesterol test to me
every two months and I watched it plummet down to
190 mg/dl. His HDL went up from about 40 mg/dl to
nearly 80 mg/dl, a level which I had never come across
before. His triglycerides also fell dramatically.

Edited by tham, 21 June 2006 - 08:42 AM.

[tham]

There are quite a few herbs and nutrients which knock
down blood sugar.

Three well-known supplements are chromium polynicotinate,
alpha lipoic acid and vanadium sulfate.

The herbs include black seed, gymnema sylvestre, fenugreek, bitter melon or gourd, green tea, oregano oil, prickly pear cactus, pterocarpus marsupium (Indian Kino tree), phyllanthus amarus, lagerstroemia speciosa (Queen's Flower), cinnamon and bilberry.

Cinnamon apparently has insulin-mimicking properties.

Pterocarpus marsupium looks very good in that it
has been reported to have beta cell regenerating
properties as well as insulin-mimicking activity.

http://www.diabetesi...rticle&sid=1697

http://www.himalayah...htm#pterocarpus


Black seed (nigella sativa) has been used in this respect in the
Middle East for thousands of years, and also has potent
antioxidant and anticarcinogenic activity. Bitter melon (momordica
charantia) also has potent anticancer properties. I'm taking black
seed oil softgels daily for general health support.


http://www.sweetsunn....cgi?item=10005

http://www.amazinghe...tter-melon.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm....l=pubmed_docsum

Edited by tham, 22 June 2006 - 07:14 AM.

[emerson]

i think he is not very conscient of his illness and he doesn´t monitoring his blood sugar everyday, or every week..he does it much less often.. 

but many young people do not  realizes many things until it happens something that frighten them.

I saw a friends diabetic father die from complications related to his illness. More specifically, to the fact that this man had become totally oblivious to the importance of monitoring it. The only good thing was that he fell into a coma pretty early on, and as a result was spared seeing the pain he'd brought on his family. Shame you can't bring the kid into a large hospital and give a tour of his potential futures.

[tham]

Some good formulas for diabetics. My choice would be
Gluco-Science by Source Naturals :

http://betterlife.co...p?prod_id=10326

http://betterlife.co...sp?prod_id=9233

http://betterlife.co...p?prod_id=11991

http://betterlife.co...sp?prod_id=5903

http://betterlife.co...sp?prod_id=4871


Prickly pear cactus :

http://www.ncbi.nlm....l=pubmed_docsum

http://www.ncbi.nlm....l=pubmed_docsum

Edited by tham, 22 June 2006 - 07:13 AM.

[glexia]

Thanks for the info tham!

I have talked with his mother this morning and i give her the links.

I am going to make a list about the products everybody recommend to him and i will translate it into spanish because she doesn´t understand english at all.

scottl I do not forget the details of weight and height, which I know that are very important. She has to look it yet.

[glexia]

Here is:

weight : 60-61 kg

height: 1,77 m