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ikaros's Photo ikaros 22 Jun 2006

Does anyone know good online supplement stores in Europe? I live in EU and it's kind of expensive to order from US.
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sentinel's Photo sentinel 23 Jun 2006

Hi Ikaros

Depends what sort of supplements you are after; Sports eg Creatine, MRPs, Fat loss.. or more Cognitive/Nootropic...?

I'm in Europe to (UK) so I know what you mean and as a broad answer I find that with Nootropics the exchange rate and different pricing can mean that it's actually cheaper to buy from a US source (eg Relentless (forum sponser), http://www.nootropikshop.com/ (run by Adam, a regular contributor here). Or a good supplier (IMO) in Europe is http://shop.airsealed.com/default.cfm, again run by Da Sense, another member.)

For Sports stuff I use http://www.muscle-shop.co.uk/ for their deals on sports basics ie protein/MRP, Creatine, Energy.

With my luck you wanted to know about herbs or Vits!

Over to you.


Sentinel
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ikaros's Photo ikaros 23 Jul 2006

Sorry for bringing this topic back to the top, but I'd especially like to know quality food supplement online stores in Europe, airsealed.com offers very few food supplements. The problem of ordering from US suppliers like Relentless and etc. is that the damn European Union has somekind of import tax. Last time when I ordered from Relentless supplements for 100$ I had to pay extra 50$ for the import tax to actually get them which is totally nuts in my opinion, but what can I do. So any quality online stores in Europe?
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doug123's Photo doug123 23 Jul 2006

There are ways around the import tax...ask the vendor to label all products as commercial samples.
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Guest_da_sense_* 23 Jul 2006

There are ways around the import tax...ask the vendor to label all products as commercial samples.


You can do that only if the order is small, but in that case you won't be taxed anyway. Vendor can include commercial invoice saying sample and total value 1 EUR, but customs is not stupid, when they see package full of supplements they're simply determine commercial price based on their rates.
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doug123's Photo doug123 23 Jul 2006

I have a generic labeling machine...it's as simple as printing a label that says "commercial sample" with the weight of the compound, lot number, marking the box on the customs form for commercial sample, indicate the lot numbers on the customs form....then include COAs for each product.
Edited by nootropikamil, 24 July 2006 - 01:01 AM.
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doug123's Photo doug123 24 Jul 2006

There are ways around the import tax...ask the vendor to label all products as commercial samples.


You can do that only if the order is small, but in that case you won't be taxed anyway. Vendor can include commercial invoice saying sample and total value 1 EUR, but customs is not stupid, when they see package full of supplements they're simply determine commercial price based on their rates.


I did not read through your comments entirely...you are right, getting 1 bottle through customs is certainlly different than 10. It also depends on the country -- and the compound. Canadian customs, in my experience, are quite liberal with what they allow into their county...except for ALCAR (believe it or not, it's illegal). EU customs like to see documentation I figure...ESPECIALLY with a raw material...if they cannot easily identify it, I imagine they will send it right back. And if it's a controlled (or illegal) import, the sender or reciever might get in trouble...sometimes it's a grey area, and calling the compound a "lab chemical" has the best luck. We currently don't offer any synthetic, controlled, or illegal compounds (in any country -- except for ALCAR in Canada, I believe)-- everything we sell at this time is naturally occuring, so nothing we offer can fit the "commercial sample" or "lab chemical" indication. We just sold out of Piracetam, so I guess when we re introduce this and other nootropics, we will have to deal with International orders on a case by case basis. We don't want any trouble with US or International customs...but believe it or not the racetams can cause some trouble in some customs agencies...

Besides including an invoice and providing a COA for each compound, calling a product a "commercial sample" or "lab chemical" might indicate that the product might be meant for further testing; and thus far, dealing with raw materials, when customs does open a package, when they find legitimate COAs from Internationally accredited companies inside the package to match each product, they can easily identify what it is and look it up if necessary.
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Dream's Photo Dream 24 Jul 2006

http://papanature.com gives some pretty good deals on a wide variety of supplements. They are the same site as iherb...

Of course, this is from someone in the US...
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ikaros's Photo ikaros 24 Jul 2006

Thanks for the links.
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sdxl's Photo sdxl 24 Jul 2006

Last time when I ordered from Relentless supplements for 100$ I had to pay extra 50$ for the import tax to actually get them which is totally nuts in my opinion, but what can I do.

50% import tax can't be right. The most I had to pay was €9.50 plus 6% of the value. But most of the time nothing, because it is send as a commercial sample, gift or is undervalued.
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ikaros's Photo ikaros 27 Jul 2006

The import tax wasn't the only extra I had to pay for, but it was the biggest. I asked how they calculate it and I was told that it depends on the value of the goods, so somehow they managed to get that sum.

But most of the time nothing, because it is send as a commercial sample, gift or is undervalued.


Relentless Improvement doesn't do that apparently.
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neogenic's Photo neogenic 03 Aug 2006

I have found the ultimate best price web site, the problem is its mostly bodybuilding supplements, but you could get muscle milk natural or the syntrax nectar naturals for proteins/MRPs as well as other goodies. This site will beat any price found online by 5%, plug in the price and the link. You can find a price from a clearance, sale page, discontinued, blowout, etc. and make up a whole order based on those prices...it's really quite amazing actually.

http://www.supplementwarehouse.com
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ikaros's Photo ikaros 03 Aug 2006

Best price doesn't always mean best quality. But thanks, I'll look into it.
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tedsez's Photo tedsez 16 Aug 2006

I've had problems with PapaNature.com / IHerb.com messing up my orders.

Does anyone know of other U.S. online stores with equally good prices on the same items?
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glexia's Photo glexia 17 Aug 2006

I´m going to order from vitaminlife.com. It seems to have good pices too.
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Centurion's Photo Centurion 17 Aug 2006

I'd have thought you'd be using a European supplier?
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glexia's Photo glexia 17 Aug 2006

I buy all my supplement of a shop near home They sell "now" brand supplements. The problem is the items are very expensive.

I have bought from relentlessimprovement.com and i have no problems, but i think is a little expensive too. Because of this i´m going to try vitaminlife.com
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ikaros's Photo ikaros 02 Jan 2007

Bumping the topic up again.
I've been quite satisfied with www.supplementsplus.co.uk for some time now, but they don't offer all the products I'd be interested in. Can anyone recommend other European online supplement stores with acceptable prices and quality?
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curious_sle's Photo curious_sle 02 Jan 2007

Um, i had issues with iherb once and they made up for it shipping again this time arriving :-) with no fuzz. Long time happy customer. Relentlessimprovement.com is excellent. Alas i know no decent european shop but i guess it wouldn't be less expensive etc alas.
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cellfighter's Photo cellfighter 03 Jan 2007

My friend in Italy orders drugs from Airsealed and alot of AOR products from Unique Nutrition (www.uniquenutrition.net). They always seem to get it through customs without any taxes or fees, otherwise they offer to pay for it! I would send them a e-mail or call them but it seems like a sweet deal. I've also heard alot of great feedback on the Mind and Muscle forms they sponsor a few different sections over there.

I'm in the US so i don't have any problems getting supplements in but good luck.
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boily's Photo boily 03 Jan 2007

I've had very good service from Relentless Improvement and iherb.com, no problem and very fast into Australia.
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ikaros's Photo ikaros 03 Jan 2007

I've had very good service from Relentless Improvement and iherb.com, no problem and very fast into Australia.


Relentless is a great place to order, but the ridiculous EU import tax makes it way too cost-ineffective to order from them or from any US-based online store if one lives in EU. Right now I haven't got that many dollars to waste on unnecessary taxes that I can avoid.
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FunkOdyssey's Photo FunkOdyssey 03 Jan 2007

iherb.com is the ultimate, like the Walmart of online supplement retailers. Anything they decide to carry seems to be cheaper than all competition, likely as a result of their high sales / purchasing volume. I'm all for supporting the little guy, but that is a luxury I can't afford right now.

Keep sending them e-mails until they stock AOR products. [thumb]
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ikaros's Photo ikaros 25 Oct 2007

I've been a long-term customer for supplementsplus.co.uk, but lately they seem to not accept any orders (I have no clue why). So I'm looking for a new supplement dealer in Europe (not in US)? Do you have recommendations for quality stores? (especially the ones who supply AOR products)
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neuroenhanced's Photo neuroenhanced 26 Oct 2007

Funkodyssey you get your AOR items from iHerb? I could not find it on their site.
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aikikai's Photo aikikai 20 Oct 2008

Hi,
as a lot of special supplements are more available in USA than Europe, and I would like to have this thread for helping us European members finding supplement resources within Europe.

I am starting my first request for help; does anyone know where to find quality hexaphosphate (IP-6) from an European supplier? Google is not on my side on hexaphosphate.

Regards

(edited by Matthias: threads 25113 & 11156 merged)
Edited by Matthias, 23 March 2009 - 10:36 AM.
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drunkfunk's Photo drunkfunk 20 Oct 2008

Hi,
as a lot of special supplements are more available in USA than Europe, and I would like to have this thread for helping us European members finding supplement resources within Europe.

I am starting my first request for help; does anyone know where to find quality hexaphosphate (IP-6) from an European supplier? Google is not on my side on hexaphosphate.

Regards


hey aikikai, check it > http://www.myprotein...h-and-wellness/
scroll down and voila! just found it myself last week.

but yea, great thread, since there are so many goodies in the staates that are so hard to find over here. don't ask how many times the customs here in germany have send my stuff back, cuz it's too highly dosed for german standards. my ass! the little stuff they sell over here is ultra-low-dosed and ridiculoulsy high priced, so i guess it makes sense for german economics not too accept us-supplies. not like they make enough in taxes anyway!

only seems to happen with us-based supplies though. so yes, i'm all eyes....
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Lotus's Photo Lotus 21 Oct 2008

I'm in the same situation, been forced to look for european suppliers. I must say that they ones i've found so far aren't very good, none of them can measure up to US suppliers like swanson or iherb. It's very hard to find one that has all the supplements I use. It's very frustrating! :(
Edited by Lotus, 21 October 2008 - 07:22 AM.
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Drifter's Photo Drifter 21 Oct 2008

Hi, great idea for a thread, thanks for starting it. I also have a request. For some reason AOR Europe do not supply Orthomind. Does anyone know of a good quality alternative product available in Europe. The price of AOR supplements means I am worried that I will be charged customs duty if I order them from America into the UK.
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