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Are there supplements that REDUCE REM sleep?

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#1 CarlSagan

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Posted 21 November 2020 - 03:55 PM


I'm curious about experimenting with reducing REM sleep and it's effects on less exhaustion after sleeping. There's a link between depression & faster onset + excessive REM sleep.

Are there any supplements you can recall which do this?

 


Edited by CarlSagan, 21 November 2020 - 04:31 PM.

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#2 CarlSagan

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Posted 21 November 2020 - 05:45 PM

https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC3181780/ 

 

https://apps.dtic.mi.../u2/a249653.pdf page 219 on

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC4790401/


Edited by CarlSagan, 21 November 2020 - 05:45 PM.


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Posted 25 November 2020 - 08:39 AM

Alcohol? Coffee? :unsure:

I would be really cautious with reducing sleep quality. I'm working night shifts, experimented with eating at nights to cheat biological clocks. Big mistake it was.

 

Cutting on coffee, carbs, reducing feeding window to 6 or less hours, taking cold showers helps with mood and energy levels a lot.

 



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Posted 28 November 2020 - 02:37 AM

I'll look into this

 

but I assumed you wanted to increase REM and shorten short wave



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Posted 04 December 2020 - 04:39 PM

Speaking from personal experience, the following help me with my excessive REM due to having Narcolepsy. Exercise a lot of caution with GabaB agonists:

 

 

Phenibut

CBD (Thc should help too but it has a rebound effect and only works for about 2ish hours)

Baclofen

Xyrem/GHB

Lowering stress

 



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Posted 11 December 2020 - 01:53 AM

Reduce Rem??? I try to increase it.... Rem I believe is essential to being a well rounded healthy individual.

#7 CarlSagan

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Posted 29 April 2021 - 07:31 AM

For people reading in the future who suspect they have excessive REM and want to experiment with increasing NREM / Slow wave (often skewed in narcolepsy, depression etc), what you want to look for are safe 5HT antagonists


Edited by CarlSagan, 29 April 2021 - 07:32 AM.


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Posted 30 April 2021 - 12:40 AM

Alcohol. Cheap and easily obtained.

#9 jroseland

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Posted 06 May 2021 - 08:27 AM

Alcohol will! Cheers to non-REM sleep!



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#10 CarlSagan

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Posted 14 May 2021 - 10:58 AM

Korean red panax ginseng slightly increases stage 3 NREM in humans over 2 weeks,  4500mg non extract split into 3 daily doses. and also increased REM latency by a lot, but so did placebo for some reason

https://www.research...ontrolled_Trial

10mg/kg extract in rats over 5 days significantly increased NREM (like 1.6mg/kg extract human dose)

https://www.semantic...8c22f184a5?p2df

 

cordycepin from cordyceps significantly increased NREM & significantly decreased REM in rats over 5 days, around 0.32mg - 0.64mg / kg human dose. (but no cordycepin isolated product available yet, not sure if other compounds in cordyceps would mess with this if you could get a high enough cordycepin % anyway).
https://www.hindawi....am/2013/840134/


Edited by CarlSagan, 14 May 2021 - 11:39 AM.






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