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#1 Dorian Grey

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Posted 11 January 2022 - 06:41 AM


With omicron sweeping the globe, I expect many of us will have some experiences to relate.  Wife & I just wrapping up our omicron adventure, so I'll get started.  

 

Background: We're both 65, not overweight, no comorbidities.  Wife was fully vaxed & boosted (in October) with Pfizer; I got J&J in April & November.  

 

Wife had a major workplace 6 hour exposure on Dec 27, in operating room where she works.  Everyone wearing new masks, properly fitted.  Air exchange in the OR is 50% outside air, with 50% HEPA filtered recirculated.  Surgical tech was working sick with minor symptoms of head cold.  They had minimal close contact, with tech at surgical field, & wife at computer terminal with minimal interaction to do counts.  

 

Wife was notified Dec 29th the tech had tested positive the day after the case.  Took 12mg ivermectin when she got home.  I had been on low dose hydroxychloroquine prophylaxis of one or two 200mg tabs per week + zinc, Zelenko/McCullough protocol.  

 

Wife started getting some minor post nasal drip around New Years, & went in for a test.  Positive result came January 4th.  

 

She started on 200mg/day HCQ + 50mg/zinc sulfate.  I bumped up to 400mg HCQ/day + 50 of zinc sulfate.  We had been on 5000 IU Vitamin-D/day, & bumped this up to 10K/day.  We really didn't do a whole lot more, other than routine Vitamins B-Complex, C & E; though I did have some zinc acetate lozenges that we tried to do a couple of times a day.  

 

Wife's symptoms were so mild, it was hard to get serious with the betadine nasal flushes, though we did try this once.  I was prepared for the inflammation stage with NAC, NAD, Curcumin & Quercetin, & we did start to phase these in around day 5.  

 

Wife couldn't believe this was really COVID, so we did a lateral flow rapid-test, which came back positive.  We didn't have a test for me, and the lines were so long at the public testing sites, I just hung tough and waited for my own symptoms to arrive.  They never did!  

 

Wife's symptoms largely resolved around day 7, though the post nasal drip had irritated her glottis, & she had a minor cough & was clearing her throat often.  I never did experience anything at all.  We did not attempt to isolate, as by the time she had tested positive, we had been together full time, with her symptomatic for several days.  

 

She was feeling so good by this weekend, she wanted to get out of the house.  Did another rapid-test, which came back positive again.  Finally tested negative today.  

 

We will be celebrating our new life, with both vaccine and natural immunity tomorrow.  Omicron was the biggest nothing-burger ever.  Not nearly as bad as a head cold.  We're both still on anti-inflammaitories and blood thinners (Vitamin-E and aspirin), weary of clotting issues. 

 

Was it the vaccines?  Boosters?  HCQ + Zinc?  Don't know, but we're both astonished at how mild omicron really was.  

 

Dread-nought the omicron.  The killer coronavirus seems to have morphed back into a common cold!  

 

 


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#2 Daniel Cooper

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Posted 11 January 2022 - 01:47 PM

I know about 5 people that got the omicron variant in the last two weeks. Symptoms have been very mild (mainly a sore throat) and they have returned to work at about the 1 week mark.

 

I'm pretty certain that we will all get omicron or a successor variant at some point. Fortunately, it is in the nature of all viral pandemics for the virus to evolve naturally to a more transmissible and less lethal form. And in the past that generally happened over about a 2-3 year time span.

 

I'm hopeful we are now in the end stage of this pandemic.

 

Congratulations on your natural immunity. :~


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Posted 11 January 2022 - 06:28 PM

Your case sounds like the majority of COVID cases, no matter the variant. It is only a small subset of people with co-morbidities that have severe cases.

 

Now you have comprehensive strong natural immunity. Me too.

 

 


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#4 Daniel Cooper

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Posted 11 January 2022 - 06:49 PM

I'm going to disagree slightly and say that the severity of omicron is noticeably less.

 

I knew guys that were young (30s) with no co-mobilities that had the early variants of covid. They were never in danger of dying or even hospitalization, but they were very sick for a couple of weeks. All of the people that I know of with omicron have gotten better in a week or less with very mild symptoms. And some of those were older with less robust health.

 

This pandemic has been hyped. It's not the seasonal flu, but neither is it the 1918 pandemic or the bubonic plague. Hopefully we will now see things start to wind down now.

 

The interesting thing to see is, if this is the end stage of the pandemic, how many people will be willing to let go and return to normal. Most of us long for normality. But I've noticed a subset of people that really don't seem to want to see the end of the pandemic, though they would probably never admit it. But they are unwilling to hear any good news about an improving situation. I think wearing the masks and doing all the other covid rituals gave them some sort of purpose and sense of belonging. I think if this thing does wind down you're going to see a small percentage of people that keep wearing the masks, even alone in their cars or when walking in the park. It's going to be interesting to watch.

 

 


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#5 Mind

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Posted 11 January 2022 - 10:51 PM

 

 

I knew guys that were young (30s) with no co-mobilities that had the early variants of covid. They were never in danger of dying or even hospitalization, but they were very sick for a couple of weeks. All of the people that I know of with omicron have gotten better in a week or less with very mild symptoms. And some of those were older with less robust health.

 

From what I have seen in my circle of acquaintances is that the variants are fairly similar. Since many of them recently did not get a test of which variant (quite common), it makes it difficult to say which is more severe. According to initial data, the omicron variant is milder, however, there are still a lot of people in the hospital (way more than last year), so the final assessment is not in yet.

 

With regards to young healthy people getting bad cases of COVID, I have to try hard to not be influenced by the hysteria over the last 2 years.

 

When I was younger, did I get bad cases of respiratory illnesses? Yes. About once per decade.

 

Am I aware of young people getting bad cases of respiratory illnesses from past years/decades? Yes

 

We know from the literature that younger cohorts have died (every year) from flu-like illnesses. Are the numbers higher in the last two years? Initial data says yes, but it is not like it has never happened before.

 

In regards to the overall mortality rate from this illness, I have to keep reminding myself that the obesity (and overall poor health) epidemic has grown almost out of control in the U.S. in recent years, meaning the population has gotten more vulnerable to respiratory illnesses.


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Posted 16 January 2022 - 05:58 PM

I don't think I have shared my own potential COVID experience here.  I am not 100% sure but I think my spouse and I got COVID in January of 2020 before anyone knew anything about it. We got a nasty virus, spouse got it much worse than me with high fever,  that we thought was the flu but many of the symptoms were COVID symptoms (I got COVID toes). Many acquaintances and friends I've told this to say the same thing happened to them.  


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#7 Daniel Cooper

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Posted 19 January 2022 - 04:52 PM

I don't think I have shared my own potential COVID experience here.  I am not 100% sure but I think my spouse and I got COVID in January of 2020 before anyone knew anything about it. We got a nasty virus, spouse got it much worse than me with high fever,  that we thought was the flu but many of the symptoms were COVID symptoms (I got COVID toes). Many acquaintances and friends I've told this to say the same thing happened to them.  

 

I had a very similar thing happen to me in early/mid Feburary.

 

We had a co-worker come back from a week long company event in California. Shortly after arriving back he got very sick. In short order, somewhere between a third and half of our site were out sick. It was a very bad respiratory infection and one guy was bad enough he thought about but ultimately did not go to the hospital. Some guys took nearly a month to get more or less back to normal. One person had a lingering cough for a several months.

 

I was very sick for several days. Sicker than I can remember going back some time. Severe respiratory infection. Fever. Chills. etc. But, I was mostly well after maybe a week and a half.  It was a notably bad viral infection.  And we did have one coworker that got "covid toes" as well, but my recollection is that he was not severely sick otherwise.

 

But, that said - I donated blood late that same year. The Red Cross was screening for covid antibodies since they were using that blood for convalescent plasma to treat severe covid patients. My blood did not show covid antibodies. This was at the very end of the year, so 10 months after I was ill.

 

I had wondered whether we had been infected with covid. I'm certain the virus was in California about the time frame our coworker was there. And it was a very severe respiratory infection and very contagious. I don't recall seeing something like that run through an office setting so rapidly before. But, no antibodies shown in a test 10 months later, so who knows. I haven't looked into how accurate those tests are versus time from infection.


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Posted 19 January 2022 - 06:43 PM

I had a very similar thing happen to me in early/mid Feburary.

 

We had a co-worker come back from a week long company event in California. Shortly after arriving back he got very sick. In short order, somewhere between a third and half of our site were out sick. It was a very bad respiratory infection and one guy was bad enough he thought about but ultimately did not go to the hospital. Some guys took nearly a month to get more or less back to normal. One person had a lingering cough for a several months.

 

I was very sick for several days. Sicker than I can remember going back some time. Severe respiratory infection. Fever. Chills. etc. But, I was mostly well after maybe a week and a half.  It was a notably bad viral infection.  And we did have one coworker that got "covid toes" as well, but my recollection is that he was not severely sick otherwise.

 

But, that said - I donated blood late that same year. The Red Cross was screening for covid antibodies since they were using that blood for convalescent plasma to treat severe covid patients. My blood did not show covid antibodies. This was at the very end of the year, so 10 months after I was ill.

 

I had wondered whether we had been infected with covid. I'm certain the virus was in California about the time frame our coworker was there. And it was a very severe respiratory infection and very contagious. I don't recall seeing something like that run through an office setting so rapidly before. But, no antibodies shown in a test 10 months later, so who knows. I haven't looked into how accurate those tests are versus time from infection.

 

Same with me. Same time frame. Developed after I traveled to Florida and mingled with many people from around the world. The illness in February of 2020 was much worse than the COVID I experienced.



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Posted 21 January 2022 - 09:17 PM

An interesting postscript. 

I went off HCQ ten days after my exposure.  30 hours later, I got a sinus headache.  Restarted HCQ & it vanished. 

Don’t believe this was a virus flare, but inflammatory response from left over viral debris.

I recommend staying on what ever anti-inflammatory therapeutic you choose for a full 30 days after exposure. 

 

Post COVID inflammatory syndrome is real (ask Bob Saget).


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Posted 14 February 2022 - 08:08 AM

Your case sounds like the majority of COVID cases, no matter the variant. It is only a small subset of people with co-morbidities that have severe cases.

Now you have comprehensive strong natural immunity. Me too.


I had the Delta strain in Sep 2021.

49yo, 5'10, 200lbs at the time, no comorbidities. Only possible tie in to severe symptoms is I have MS. I suspect I have a chronically activated NLRP3 inflammasome.

24 Days of hell.

Water diarrhea, not watery, water. Fever got up to 104.6 with bloody cough & COVID PNEUMONIA, however, the hospital was so full of critical patients I was sent home and told to come back if worse.

Studies indicate the more severe infection, the greater IGM antibody levels.

Here is a link that states infection more protective than vaccine.

https://www.reuters....-us-2022-01-19/


I believe it. Since infection and recovery, I have been exposed at least 4 times that I know of, with no resulting symptoms.
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