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Optimal dosage of methylene blue for antidepressive effects

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#1 Frank Walter

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Posted 26 March 2022 - 07:03 AM


Metyhelene is so underdosed usually, so much that it won't cause any effect regarding MAO-A inhibition other than placebo. 300 mg (or more) of methylene blue increases the concentration of norepinephrine and serotonin much more than 15 or 30 mg. This is because despite 15 mg inhibiting 80% of mao-a, being reversible inhibitors they compete with serotonin (e.g.) and eventually the concentration of it increases until it wins against methylene blue and therefore begins to be degraded. Consequently, more reversible inhibitor dosage = more effectiveness, even though complete inhibition is achieved at lower doses! The opposite is true for the irreversible ones. You can use affinity values to calculate everything mathematically (which in fact is measured in moles of the substance).

This, in addition to being considered the norm by this basic theory, I have tried it on myself and I can assure you that 200 mg of methylene blue has a REALLY powerful antidepressant effect, as opposed to 30 mg, even if it is still noticeable.

I specify it with a post because if a person without special knowledge does a research on the recommended dose for an antidepressant effect, everywhere, it is said that a dose of 15 mg, inhibiting 80% of mao-a in normal conditions, is the optimal one, in reality it is an extremely low dose considering the competition with the ligands. I saw people who tried sub 15 mg doses for depression and noticing some sort of effects: it is just placebo.

If you are Italian I wrote about this and much more in my telegram channel @sciemenza.


Edited by Frank Walter, 26 March 2022 - 07:15 AM.


#2 mbdrinker

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Posted 06 May 2022 - 01:32 AM

Cool info, will experiment with large doses soon

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#3 Vivacious1

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Posted 11 May 2022 - 08:00 AM

I have not yet seen this discussed on the MB threads I've read. I wanted to add it so people can beware of hemolysis as a possible side effect. 

https://www.ncbi.nlm...zcg#sec1-2title



#4 mbdrinker

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Posted 17 May 2022 - 01:02 AM

After taking 7.2 mg I returned to 3.6 dayly dose because 7.2 causes uncomfortable feelings in stomach, so large doses are not for me... anywhere no psychedelic effects anymore, really sad...


Edited by mbdrinker, 17 May 2022 - 01:03 AM.


#5 BieraK

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Posted 11 August 2022 - 10:40 PM

Hard to tell..... MB has two side effects on me that are not commonly described on studies for cognition and mood for humans:

1) Vassoconstriction, even in low doses of 1 mb it tends to inhibit nitric oxide
2) I wake up with a full erection and need to urinate. It  does not look healthy...
3) Dysuria: painful urination

3) Dysuria ended when I started to take methylated vitamins (folate, b12, betaine and so on)
1) It is reduced with pde5 inhibitors
2) I still have not found how to counteract this.... last time I dosed mb, I was taking riboflavin and choline supplements, apparently it reduced that side effect.
 



#6 mbdrinker

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Posted 27 August 2022 - 07:35 PM

It acts as antiviagra. By inhibiting nitric oxide needed for erection it turns one into temporary impotent which can be a benefit if without a gf.


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#7 mbdrinker

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Posted 28 September 2022 - 07:51 PM

To get best psychodelic effect better split into several small doses throughout a day than taking smaller number of large doses.



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#8 mbdrinker

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Posted 22 October 2022 - 06:31 PM

Will i get leicomb if i use lemon acid instead of ascorbic acid?







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