Edited by healthmysteries31, 30 October 2022 - 05:25 PM.

Physical and mental health problems(PDD - Persistent Depressive Disorder) for many years
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Posted 30 October 2022 - 05:02 PM
#2
Posted 06 March 2023 - 09:28 AM
Many of the things you describe resonate with me too. I also started to have problems in my Kate teens, agoraphobia and deep depression only partially helped by tricyclics. It was only when I was prescribed an MAOI (Nardil or Phenelzine) that I really saw an improvement. Another one to try would be Parnate or Tranylcypramine, also an MAOI. The difference seems to me to be the enhancement of Dopamine in conjunction with the usual Noradrenaline and Seratonin, which work all together to bring about a more thorough improvement. Care must be taken though as the inhibition of Monoamine Oxidase also means you will have dangerous rises in blood pressure after things containing Tyrone such as aged cheese, game meats and yeast extract among other things. If the diet is adhered to there should be no problem. Sadly the original manufacturer Parke Davis stopped making them and the various generics do not seem as effective. This comment only applies to Nardil. As I understand it, Parnate is still the original.
You may have difficulty in getting a doctor to prescribe it as drug manufacturers mounted a scare campaign years ago to promote their newer tricyclics and make some profit from their newer but often less effective formulations.
Look up Dr Ken Gillman, he’s the most authoritative source on MAOI’s and is based in Australia.
Good luck.
(Ps currently on the Neon brand of Nardil at a low dose (3 a day too many side effects) and it’s easing things while not removing all my symptoms).
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Posted 06 March 2023 - 07:46 PM
Hello and thanks for such a detailed explanation of you symptoms.
Many of the things you describe resonate with me too. I also started to have problems in my Kate teens, agoraphobia and deep depression only partially helped by tricyclics. It was only when I was prescribed an MAOI (Nardil or Phenelzine) that I really saw an improvement. Another one to try would be Parnate or Tranylcypramine, also an MAOI. The difference seems to me to be the enhancement of Dopamine in conjunction with the usual Noradrenaline and Seratonin, which work all together to bring about a more thorough improvement. Care must be taken though as the inhibition of Monoamine Oxidase also means you will have dangerous rises in blood pressure after things containing Tyrone such as aged cheese, game meats and yeast extract among other things. If the diet is adhered to there should be no problem. Sadly the original manufacturer Parke Davis stopped making them and the various generics do not seem as effective. This comment only applies to Nardil. As I understand it, Parnate is still the original.
You may have difficulty in getting a doctor to prescribe it as drug manufacturers mounted a scare campaign years ago to promote their newer tricyclics and make some profit from their newer but often less effective formulations.
Look up Dr Ken Gillman, he’s the most authoritative source on MAOI’s and is based in Australia.
Good luck.
(Ps currently on the Neon brand of Nardil at a low dose (3 a day too many side effects) and it’s easing things while not removing all my symptoms).
Hello,
Thank you for the comment. I know of Parnate, it is supposed to be one of the most powerful antidepressants. I thought of something like this as a last resort option in case all other drugs fail.
How would you describe really saw an improvement? I know of quite a few things that give me maybe 20-30% improvement but I struggle to go beyond that. It's frustrating when people talk about things that are helpful because if I am left with 50+% symptoms it's still sufficiently annoying to ruin my quality of life.
How would you define really saw an improvement as a percentage of symptom reduction?
How was your energy level before and after? Motivation? Cognitive function? Anhedonia? How long have you been on this medication? What does it fix and what not?
thanks
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