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#1 FunkOdyssey

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Posted 26 July 2006 - 08:23 PM


Yes, this was put together by the manufacturer, but its still a sick compilation of aged garlic research. I guarantee even the most well-read supplement enthusiasts will learn a ton about AGE and its potential uses from this paper.

I'm sold.

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#2 Shepard

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Posted 26 July 2006 - 09:53 PM

From what I've seen so far....very nice. Thanks, Funk.

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 04:46 AM

If you crush some garlic and put it in a capsule, you get a highly beneficial garlic product for much less.

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 04:46 AM

That's just kick ass. I've been taking Aged Garlic all year. Right now, Kyolic Aged Garlic Extract. The bottle suggests two servings a day, 700mg a serving. This is one of the few supplements that I take more than the bottle suggests. Useally three or four servings a day. I don't really know how much to take, but i'm thinking a little extra of this won't hurt me.

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 06:01 AM

An expensive, proprietary product-- reminds me of another product. Now what was it called?

I'll give AGE one thing over Protandim though-- it has research behind it, and fairly convincing research at that. Protandim cannot claim either.

#6 FunkOdyssey

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 01:16 PM

It isn't very expensive, considering its organic garlic, its been processed for six months, and it has a ton of research backing it. Its efficacy is superior to other forms of garlic in every comparison I've looked at. Iherb.com sells it at .22 cents per gram in either a 300 cap bottle of 300mg capsules ($19.41), or a 60 cap bottle of 1g capsules ($12.95). I suspect this is the cheapest it can be found anywhere, but if not, let me know.

The bottle suggests two servings a day, 700mg a serving. This is one of the few supplements that I take more than the bottle suggests. Useally three or four servings a day. I don't really know how much to take, but i'm thinking a little extra of this

Much higher doses have been studied. Here's an example:

    Aged garlic extract, a modulator of cardiovascular risk factors: a dose-finding study on the effects of AGE on platelet functions.

        * Steiner M,
        * Li W.

    Division of Hematology/Oncology, East Carolina University School of Medicine, Greenville, NC 27858-4354, USA. steiner@brody.med.ecu.edu

    Aged garlic extract (AGE) has been shown previously to have moderate cholesterol-lowering and blood pressure-reducing effects. We have now investigated whether platelet function, a potential risk factor for cardiovascular disease, can be inhibited by AGE administration. In a randomized, double-blind study of normal healthy individuals (n = 34), both men and women, the effect of AGE was evaluated in doses between 2.4 and 7.2 g/d vs. equal amounts of placebo. Platelet aggregation and adhesion were measured at 2-wk intervals throughout the study. Threshold concentrations for epinephrine and collagen increased moderately during AGE administration compared with the placebo and baseline periods. Only at the highest supplementation level did AGE show a slight increase in the threshold level of ADP-induced aggregation. Platelet adhesion to collagen, fibrinogen and von Willebrand factor was investigated by perfusing whole blood through a laminar flow chamber under controlled flow conditions. Adherence of platelets was inhibited by AGE in a dose-dependent manner when collagen was the adhesive surface perfused at low shear rates ( approximately 30 s(-1)). At high shear rates (1200 s(-1)), AGE also inhibited platelet adhesion to collagen but only at higher intake levels. Adhesion to von Willebrand factor was reduced only at 7.2 g/d AGE, but adherence to fibrinogen was potently inhibited at all levels of supplementation. Thus, AGE exerts selective inhibition on platelet aggregation and adhesion, platelet functions that may be important for the development of cardiovascular events such as myocardial infarction and ischemic stroke. We briefly review the effect of garlic preparations in general on cardiovascular risk factors and point out differences between AGE and other garlic preparations that we feel are important to explain the efficacy of AGE.

    PMID: 11238801 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]



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Posted 27 July 2006 - 01:26 PM

7.2g daily long-term (10 months):

    Changes in platelet function and susceptibility of lipoproteins to oxidation associated with administration of aged garlic extract.

        * Steiner M,
        * Lin RS.

    Division of Hematology/Oncology, East Carolina University School of Medicine, Greenville, North Carolina 27858-4354, USA.

    Garlic and some of its organosulfur components have been found to be potent inhibitors of platelet aggregation in vitro. Demonstration of their efficacy in vivo, however, especially when administered over extended periods, is sparse. We recently performed a 10-month study comparing the effect of aged garlic extract (AGE) with placebo on the lipid profiles of moderately hypercholesterolemic men. In the course of the intervention trial, we examined platelet functions and susceptibility of lipoproteins to oxidation in a subgroup of this study population. Study subjects supplemented with 7.2 AGE per day showed a significant reduction of epinephrine- and, to a lesser degree, collagen-induced platelet aggregation but failed to demonstrate an inhibition of adenosine diphosphate (ADP)-induced aggregation. Platelet adhesion to fibrinogen, measured in a laminar flow chamber at moderately high shear rate, was reduced by approximately 30% in subjects taking AGE compared with placebo supplement. A trend toward decreased susceptibility of lipoproteins to oxidation also was noted during AGE administration compared with the placebo period. We conclude that the beneficial effect of garlic preparations on lipids and blood pressure extends also to platelet function, thus providing a wider potential protection of the cardiovascular system.

    PMID: 9641475 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]



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Posted 27 July 2006 - 01:57 PM

I liked the immune formulation on the site.

http://www.kyolic.co...c/kyolic103.htm

The reserve product by Kyolic is nice too, given they put the 600mg in one cap vs. all the the other formulations that are at least 2 caps.

http://www.kyolic.co...olicreserve.htm

#9 neogenic

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 01:59 PM

Does the Kyolic have any unwanted sides such as breath, sweat, or "repeats" that those that have used the product could comment on?

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 02:20 PM

I've been using 5.4g daily for the past few days, and haven't experienced any change in body, breath, or sweat odor.

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 02:58 PM

What do you think of AOR's Bearlic product in comparison, which RI carries?

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 03:04 PM

For me there is a big difference between eating raw or cooked garlic. It doesn't agree with me or my environment, if you know what I mean.

The other night I ate half a bulb of roasted garlic. I was in damage control for at least a day.

Does anyone else suffer from this?

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 03:37 PM

What do you think of AOR's Bearlic product in comparison


That product is .41 cents per gram, almost twice as much as Kyolic AGE. It does seem to be more potent at a given dose/concentration for lowering blood pressure and improving blood flow. However, there is very little research on allium ursinum, and the evidence is not present to suggest it can match the amazing variety of effects attributable to AGE (liver protection, detoxification, immune enhancement, anti-infection, anti-stress, anti-fatigue, anti-cancer, cancer prevention, memory retention, nerve growth, probiotic support, heavy metal chelation, anti-glycation, etc).

Evidence-wise, allium ursinum is just a one-trick pony (cardiovascular benefits). AOR seems to understand this, as they headline their Bearlic sales literature with, "Experience the natural ACE-inhibitor power of Allium ursinum", and focus almost exclusively on its blood pressure effects.

Edited by FunkOdyssey, 27 July 2006 - 03:57 PM.


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Posted 27 July 2006 - 05:30 PM

For me there is a big difference between eating raw or cooked garlic. It doesn't agree with me or my environment, if you know what I mean.

The other night I ate half a bulb of roasted garlic. I was in damage control for at least a day.

Does anyone else suffer from this?


I have ingested fresh and aged garlic and never really had any problems. I mean I live alone and can have some gas from it but that is all I think it causes for me. But I am talking about RAW garlic and not roasted. I thought roasted would be milder, less pungent.

I happen to think that ingesting raw aged garlic is something you should know about before you try it. Any head or bulb of garlic with a green sprout growing out of it is aged. This stuff is potent. It can burn the skin off of the inside of your mouth if it comes in contact for more than a couple of seconds. I have experienced this stuff myself. It can be surprisingly strong.

I say ingest because I chop the stuff up as finely as possible to release the active chemicals and then swallow down those little pieces without chewing it or letting it linger in my mouth. That is how I learned to take raw garlic and avoid the bad breath aspect. Chewing raw garlic releases that active chemical in your mouth, which is not really what you want. Of course I had read and even tried the old stick some garlic in your sock and rub it into the soles of your feet idea. That does not do much in terms of asborbtion, as far as my experiment accomplished. Ingesting it is a more efficient means of getting into your bloodstream.

People with garstric ulers should avoid garlic. Do you have some stomach sensitivities perhaps.

Now, that I think of it raw onions would give me the worst gas. I mean I wouldn't want to be in the same room as myself. I wonder if I have a problem with raw onions like you have a problem with (raw) garlic. I sometimes wonder if there is some enzyme or some other digestive issue that causes some foods to trigger that reaction.

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 05:45 PM

There are definitely some real concerns with raw garlic. Check this out:

J Nutr. 2001 Mar;131(3s):1109S-13S.
    Effects of garlic preparations on the gastrointestinal mucosa.

        * Hoshino T,
        * Kashimoto N,
        * Kasuga S.

    1st Department of Internal Medicine, St. Marianna University School of Medicine, Kawasaki 216-0015, Japan.

    The effects of garlic preparations, including dehydrated raw garlic powder (RGP), dehydrated boiled garlic powder (BGP) and aged garlic extract (AGE), on the gastric mucosa were determined using a newly established endoscopic air-powder delivery system, which can deliver solid materials directly into the stomach. Among the three preparations, RGP caused severe damage, including erosion. BGP also caused reddening of the mucosa, whereas AGE did not cause any undesirable effects. The safety of enteric-coated garlic products was also determined. Direct administration of pulverized enteric-coated products on the gastric mucosa caused reddening of the mucosa. When an enteric-coated tablet was administered orally, it caused loss of epithelial cells at the top of crypts in the ileum. These results suggest that caution be used with regard to safety and effectiveness when choosing a garlic preparation because some preparations may have undesirable effects, including gastrointestinal problems.

    PMID: 11238827 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]



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Posted 27 July 2006 - 06:16 PM

I have the same problem as you Zoolander. One night I ate some spaghetti with a lot of garlic powder and raw garlic in the sauce. My wife wouldn't sleep in the bedroom with me because of the odor. lol.

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 06:28 PM

I have the same problem as you Zoolander. One night I ate some spaghetti with a lot of garlic powder and raw garlic in the sauce. My wife wouldn't sleep in the bedroom with me because of the odor. lol.


I bet you felt smarter the next day!

According to this recent study, sleeping alone might have a slightly "Nootropic" effect...for men...

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 06:32 PM

So do you give her the Dutch oven treatment?

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 07:02 PM

So do you give her the Dutch oven treatment?


That's just nasty.

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Posted 27 July 2006 - 07:04 PM

My partner fed me the garlic so I fed her the consequences. IMO that's fair [tung]

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Posted 29 July 2006 - 01:16 AM

I've been pimping AGE for a while now. I love the stuff...the immune formula is the shizzzzznit

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Posted 29 July 2006 - 01:26 AM

shizzzzzzznit...I like that.

stellar: what dosage do you take, and do you take it on an empty stomach or with food? Does it make your breath smell bad?

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Posted 29 July 2006 - 02:33 AM

I'm liking Kyolic, but I still think it's a little expensive. Look at some of the company's other products, like ModuProst. It's basically beta sitosterol at an inflated price. More and more, we're seeing this in the nutraceutical world, where a company will perform research and then dump on all competitors' products. In the case of Kyolic, it may be the case that it is truly better, but I've also seen this done with e.g. joint health formulas, where one is very similar to another (the standard glucosamine).

Sabinsa has a garlic product too that looks impressive: Webpage.

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Posted 29 July 2006 - 05:06 AM

'm liking Kyolic, but I still think it's a little expensive. Look at some of the company's other products, like ModuProst. It's basically beta sitosterol at an inflated price. More and more, we're seeing this in the nutraceutical world, where a company will perform research and then dump on all competitors' products. In the case of Kyolic, it may be the case that it is truly better, but I've also seen this done with e.g. joint health formulas, where one is very similar to another (the standard glucosamine).

Sabinsa has a garlic product too that looks impressive: Webpage.


Wow, they JUST patented that: Patent No: US 7,014,874 B1 Date: 21 March, 2006

I will have to pick some up. Sabinsa is the BEST supplement company I've ever dealt with....quality, scientific support, and reasonable prices.

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Posted 29 July 2006 - 08:32 PM

Adam: I will be ordering some from you when I have the $$$. Garliselect is a GREAT source of sulfur compounds.

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Posted 29 July 2006 - 09:53 PM

Garliselect is a GREAT source of sulfur compounds.


What really gets me interested in this product is the fact that they use Hydroponics (no soil involved) to grow this stuff.

GarliSelect® is a selenium-enriched garlic product manufactured by a patent pending soilless culture process. Garlic bulbs are naturally enriched with a unique composition of organic selenium compounds for nutritional supplementation, using a proprietary hydroponics method.



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Posted 31 July 2006 - 01:39 PM

I just bought the Kyolic Immune product, after reading the information here. The label is impressive.

Supplement Facts
Serving Size 2 capsules Product Codes:
103-41: 100 capsules
103-42: 200 capsules

Vitamin C (Ester C®) 105mg
350%
Aged Garlic Extract™†† Powder (bulb) 440mg
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Premium Mushroom Complex
Shitake, Maitake, Poria Cocos, Reishi and Agaricus
150mg
**

Astragalus Extract Powder (root) 100mg
**

Oregano extract (leaf) 100mg
**

Olive Leaf extract (oleuropin 18%) 80mg
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††Special Garlic Preparation **Daily Value not established

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Posted 06 January 2008 - 08:11 AM

i need your file about AGE garlic extract, but its can't open. would you like to sent me, please. best wishes, diah email: diahtamankampus@yahoo.com




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