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[tjcbs]

I am reading some conflicting information that aniracetam may or may not be toxic over the long term, due to excitotoxicity. What is the current consensus on this? Has anyone here been taking aniracetam for a year or more? Have you noticed any adverse effects, or tolerance?

[doug123]

http://nootropics.ip...php?showtopic=3

Have fun.

[tjcbs]

Thanks, I like the way you hilight the gist of the articles. All the articles were positive though, so i'm sure there is a selection bias at work. Why do some people claim it has problems with excitotoxicity?

[vortexentity]

Most people speak from evidence from their google search or pubmed but have no experience so they are bias. Some are just here to look for problems.

I will tell you from experience that Aniracetam is a half assed nootropic. It is weak compared to Piracetam and does not last as long. It acts faster than Piracetam I must admit. I have tried it for over 2 years on several rounds of experiment based on the best evidence I could find. Piracetam is a better substance. Oxiracetam is far superior in my experience than either one.

[tjcbs]

I feel the opposite, for me piracetam is half-assed, after trying it for years on and off/

[Ghostrider]

I experimented with Oxiracetam, Piracetam, and Aniracetam. None of them did anything for me beyond possible placebo. Maybe when I am older I'll feel something.

I disagree with the following quote:

"Most people speak from evidence from their google search or pubmed but have no experience so they are bias. Some are just here to look for problems."

I disagree for the following reasons:

1. One does not have to experience something to draw legitimate conclusions about it. Example: Slavery is bad. I can speak about oppression without having been oppressed.

2. In regards to nootropics and other drugs, personal response varies. What works for some people may not work for others. At the end of the day, it *is* one's personal response that matters regardless of what any pubmed or google article states about a population. You are just one sample from that population. Your results and experience matters the most to you. So based on this, yes, it is reasonable to argue from experience rather than science. However, since nootropics (from personal experience :-) seem so weak, it is best to argue based on scientific data so that one does not accidently convince someone else of the placebo effects that one experienced. So yes, personal experience does matter, but lacking personal experience certainly does not make one biased.