Need Protein, but I'm Lactose

#1 andyt

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Posted 08 September 2006 - 08:22 PM

I'm 20 years old, Lactose Intolerant since age 2. I have been taking taking a Flora-Q probiotic capsule once per day, which has helped me so much! My stomach is sensitive to dairy products like cheese, etc. I have been drinking non-dairy Lactaid Milk since a young age. I still take a Lactaid extra strength when I eat any kind of dairy product, but I stay away from dairy 90% of the time because even the smallest traces do not treat me well.

My best friends here at college work out regulary and are experienced with proper work out schedules and routines. I am 6'4 and 155 pounds, working to get stronger and get more meat on my bones. I have been using Muscle Milk for a few days to get more protein, etc. in me. My only concern is that it has Whey protein. The container even says "Lactose Free" on the front label, but I'm experiencing some bloating/gas after having a serving.

I heard that Whey Concentrates have 5-6% lactose, while Isolates have less than 1%. Are there any other protein supplements that I should consider? My friends use some kind of Whey Isolate/Kreotene supplement, though I have heard concerns about kreotene and some of these other products.

I am looking at this "Living Protein" supplement, which is also a non-dairy probiotic -- delivering 21 grams of Protein.

http://www.livingnut...823325d6e4bc3f6

Though, it says "Ideal for Vegetarians" -- which I am not. It has "Complete Plant Protein, All 10 essential amino acids, dietary fibar, No Soy, Whey, or Added Sugars." I have heard that Whey Protein is the best form of Protein, though this supplement has no Whey. Since Whey gives me some stomach problems, what should I do? Is the rest of my body still making good use of the Whey Protein, even though my stomach isn't the best after having it?

Any thoughts and experiences are welcome! [lol]

Andy

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Posted 08 September 2006 - 09:03 PM

I have a simple solution for you: eat real food like chicken and turkey and some red meat on ocassion.

I personally don't believe in those BCAA products because they seem like pure chemicals to me. That stuff is not real food in my opinion. Eat real food instead.

OK, enough with my personal views.

I have read that some people, though not everyone, can take some enzymes that will allow you to have the offending foods. I also think that cheddar cheese is one food that does not contain any lactose, FYI. Enzymes for Autism and Other Nuerological Disorders by Karen Defelice says that Houston is the company that makes these enzymes for people with cesium and gluten issue. (I don't think you need these enzymes, but some other ones.) I would think that lactose problems should be easier to help with enzymes than cesium and gluten problems. Have you tried other enzymes besides the lactaid?

Can you eat yogurt without any problems? Most people will say that yogurt is fine for them. Yogurt doesn't just have the good bacteria but the enzymes that the bacteria produce which helps you digest the yogurt. So, if foods like yogurt are fine then I would think the right enzymes would basically have you eating a normal diet. And if the probiotics help too then you probably can still search out the right enzymes.

You also need the right nutrition. Usually people who have food allergies or sensitivities need some nutrients like vitamin b6, zinc and vitamin C to help minimize the allergic symptoms. Of course with food allergies or sensitivities there can be inflammation, and this inflammation can occur in the brain if you have any neurological issues. But digestive enzymes can help to counter this inflammation, which is another reason to take enzymes with food, at least. Systemic enzymes might be helpful too. That means taking those enzymes on an empty stomach so they get into your bloodstream to deal with issues in other parts of the body.

Well, I am sure there others here who know more about your options when it comes to BCAA products. You don't like soy protein?

#3 Shepard

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Posted 08 September 2006 - 10:12 PM

Dude, that protein is grossly overpriced. Egg white and hemp protein should work. Have you tried any good quality whey? Isolate/Ion-Exchange?

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Posted 08 September 2006 - 10:42 PM

the whey protien I use has lactase in it.

#5 andyt

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Posted 08 September 2006 - 11:52 PM

Here are my responses to several questions that were raised in these previous posts. Again, I am on an advanced work out routine that calls for plenty of protein, I would like to have 1-2 protein shakes per day. My stomach isn't handling the Muscle Milk like I was hoping, but the rest of my body loves it -- It does say Lactose Free, but I think my stomach is is not handling the Whey like normal. Also, any thoughts on that "Living Protein" supplement as mentioned in my original post?

I have a simple solution for you: eat real food like chicken and turkey and some red meat on ocassion.

I LOVE to eat, and I eat a lot. I can eat more than my friends. Chicken, and Turkey, and high protein foods are my friend when they are available. Remember, I am a college student eating mostly in a cafeteria. I usually go for 2 Turkey/Ham Sandwhiches, Hamburger, Salad, etc. etc.

I personally don't believe in those BCAA products because they seem like pure chemicals to me. That stuff is not real food in my opinion. Eat real food instead.

Again, I eat plenty of real food, though its not so noticable. My work out buddies love the protein shakes and they help their bodies keep up with the daily work out.

Have you tried other enzymes besides the lactaid?

Yes, I have tried many. Lactaid is best for me.

Can you eat yogurt without any problems?

My system can't handle yogurt, though it is delicious and my Dad, for example, has it everyday as it is very good for him. I don't eat yogurt.

You don't like soy protein?

I don't know anything about soy protein, how is it??

Dude, that protein is grossly overpriced. Egg white and hemp protein should work.

Cost is not an issue. I eat as much real food as I can. I eat mostly in a college cafeteria, I do eat a lot, and I would like to have 1 or 2 protein shakes per day, as when you look at my body size, its pretty obvious that I my body could use it.

Have you tried any good quality whey? Isolate/Ion-Exchange?

I'm using Muscle Milk now which does have Whey, I'm not very aware of the other types you mentioned.

Additional feedback is very much appreciated.

Andy

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Posted 11 September 2006 - 08:37 PM

I realize that you may be taking the BCAA for bulking up which is probably the easiest way to get extra protein.

Honestly, I don't use those products, but I think if you are getting some GI problems it can mean that you are taking more protein in one shake or one meal than your body can handle. That stuff will give even regular, experienced users the runs if they try to take more than they can handle in one meal or snack. Are you sure it is a lactose problem? I think more than 20 grams of protein might be pushing it, but that would be the amount for real food. You may have to try less protein in your shake to see if that works for you. Have you tried lowering the amount of protein? Too much protein in one meal, I think, will not agree with you.

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 12:25 AM

nutribiotic rice protein... i take it all the time and have no problem building muscle from it. the processing is really clean too, all enzymatic.

#8 JonesGuy

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 12:18 PM

Whey is vastly over-rated when it comes to muscle building. Vastly. There is no real benefit to spending extra money on whey, that money has too much opportunity cost.

If you want free-floating aa's in your bloodstream during and after a workout, you merely need to eat protein 2 hours before hand. The excess 'rush' of protein from whey does next to nothing if you're already getting enough protein.

Chicken, eggs, tuna are all excellent sources. I am also a fan of ocean salmon, because of the oils included.

A can of tuna 2 hours before a workout will allow plenty of 'available' protein in your blood in the hours after a workout; enough for your muscles to use to grow.

#9 Shepard

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 04:00 PM

Yeah, but the guy says he eats as much as he can. Shakes can be handy for people who want extra Calories without the bulk of added food.

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