What supplement affect music sound and how we appreciate it and how we understand it. I don't know if any of you are musician but it's important to us
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, Sep 10 2006 09:04 PM
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Posted 11 September 2006 - 06:05 AM
Placebo? I mean what you are trying to do is change something that is completely subjective. So using a substance that is completely subjective seems like the perfect match :-). Ok, next time when I don't have anything to say, I'll stay quiet instead...
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Posted 11 September 2006 - 08:53 PM
Cannibis can completely change your perspective on music. I also dont recommend it.
how come you dont reccomend the cannabis?
Because i have no idea if the person i recomended it to could handle it. A lot of people that start smoking cannabis cant do it sparingly and it can quickly become a daily thing (especially if its available). Now if someone did it now and then (like about once or twice a month) i dont see it as a big problem. It certainly expands your mind in different ways and it and it can definantly change your perspective on music and life in general. Theres a few problems though
1) Its illegal and unless you know the guy got it out of his backyard your not exactly sure its clean. Its most likely clean but who knows.
2)If you have serious anxiety or depression issues it can excasperate them and even has a potential for opening up personality and "schizo" disorders in people that are susceptible
3)It can be expensive if you want the good weed i.e homegrown. Not the mexican brick shit they send over the border.
4)Whether you beleive it or not weed can be very addictive and ruin your life
But again if you can handle it, light one up and have a jam session
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Posted 12 September 2006 - 12:16 AM
I always figured different neurotransmitters = different interpretations of music.
For instance: With acetylcholine you will most likely sense music. With serotonin you will most likely feel music.
Just a theory based off the ideas in doctor bravermans book.
For instance: With acetylcholine you will most likely sense music. With serotonin you will most likely feel music.
Just a theory based off the ideas in doctor bravermans book.
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Posted 12 September 2006 - 01:23 AM
I don't know of any legal supplements that enhance music, although generally when I feel good the music sounds better!
Cannibis gave me some of the strongest shifts in my appreciation of music, it allowed me to concentrate and absorb the music without analyzing it too much.
2c-i gave synesthasia when listening to music, Doc Dob and Doi seemed to make everything alot more intense, but they are untested research chems. I would recommend against experimenting with them until they have been tested more thoroughly.
Cannibis gave me some of the strongest shifts in my appreciation of music, it allowed me to concentrate and absorb the music without analyzing it too much.
2c-i gave synesthasia when listening to music, Doc Dob and Doi seemed to make everything alot more intense, but they are untested research chems. I would recommend against experimenting with them until they have been tested more thoroughly.
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Posted 12 September 2006 - 05:11 PM
Dimethyltryptamine
DMT is a powerful psychoactive substance. If DMT is smoked, injected, or orally ingested with an MAOI, it can produce powerful entheogenic experiences including true hallucinations (perceived extensions of reality). A trip sitter is often employed to assist the drug user in staying physically and mentally healthy, and, in the case of smoked DMT, to catch the pipe when the user loses awareness of it.
Induced DMT experiences can include profound time-dilation, visual and audio and MUSIC hallucinations
DMT is classified in the United States as a Schedule I drug
DMT is a powerful psychoactive substance. If DMT is smoked, injected, or orally ingested with an MAOI, it can produce powerful entheogenic experiences including true hallucinations (perceived extensions of reality). A trip sitter is often employed to assist the drug user in staying physically and mentally healthy, and, in the case of smoked DMT, to catch the pipe when the user loses awareness of it.
Induced DMT experiences can include profound time-dilation, visual and audio and MUSIC hallucinations
DMT is classified in the United States as a Schedule I drug
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Posted 14 September 2006 - 12:45 AM
So technically every person is manufacturing a Schedule I drug!
Don't forget morphine too. Although that's a schedule II drug.
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Posted 20 September 2006 - 09:59 PM
Ok, I think it was a bit of a primary reaction.
A schoolfriend of mine died as a consequence of drug abuse, so I'm a bit on the sensitive side regarding recreational drugs.
My point of view: don't even start it, you might not survive. You don't even need to be very naive to let something awful happen to you. Like kottke stated also.
I removed the baldness of my post.
A schoolfriend of mine died as a consequence of drug abuse, so I'm a bit on the sensitive side regarding recreational drugs.
My point of view: don't even start it, you might not survive. You don't even need to be very naive to let something awful happen to you. Like kottke stated also.
I removed the baldness of my post.
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Posted 21 September 2006 - 07:33 AM
Well, I do not have to much experience myself but my feeling is as follows.
Legally speaking it's not. But that's not always a human measure.
I think it's very hard to become aggressive when using cannabis.
In Holland, we have a problem with alcohol consumption by minors since people abusing alcohol get younger every year and the quantity of alcohol that's consumed increases significantly. Events were minors of 12/13 are admitted to hospital after alcohol abuse are increasing a lot, they sometimes have an alcohol blood level of 1.8 promille.
And we all know the aggressiveness that's often resulting from alcohol intake.
The argument, that was used some time ago that alcohol and cannabis users were different, disjunct group of people is not conform reality anymore and it probably has never been.
So if you look at the effect side of the matter, I think alcohol and soft drugs could be treated equally.
But that's not all, it's not as simple as that in my perception. Alcohol consumption is not always associated with creating a mental, behavioural effect, i.e. to get drunk. I like a good glass of cognac or whiskey when with friends, just for the taste. The primary goal of cannabis usage is always to produce the mental effect, i.e. to get high. So, in comparing these substances, one should also consider the social setting in which it is used. This makes comparing, and eventually concluding that alcohol is a recreational drug, complicated. The same reasoning applies to comparing cannabis usage and smoking of plain cigarettes.
Legally speaking it's not. But that's not always a human measure.
I think it's very hard to become aggressive when using cannabis.
In Holland, we have a problem with alcohol consumption by minors since people abusing alcohol get younger every year and the quantity of alcohol that's consumed increases significantly. Events were minors of 12/13 are admitted to hospital after alcohol abuse are increasing a lot, they sometimes have an alcohol blood level of 1.8 promille.
And we all know the aggressiveness that's often resulting from alcohol intake.
The argument, that was used some time ago that alcohol and cannabis users were different, disjunct group of people is not conform reality anymore and it probably has never been.
So if you look at the effect side of the matter, I think alcohol and soft drugs could be treated equally.
But that's not all, it's not as simple as that in my perception. Alcohol consumption is not always associated with creating a mental, behavioural effect, i.e. to get drunk. I like a good glass of cognac or whiskey when with friends, just for the taste. The primary goal of cannabis usage is always to produce the mental effect, i.e. to get high. So, in comparing these substances, one should also consider the social setting in which it is used. This makes comparing, and eventually concluding that alcohol is a recreational drug, complicated. The same reasoning applies to comparing cannabis usage and smoking of plain cigarettes.
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