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Posted 24 January 2007 - 09:00 AM
Hah, yea but they're sure as hell alot better then smoking some menthols with the added 4 million chemicals for flavor. All in all cigarettes are far worse for you then they are good. They do have a few key benefits however:
1) An excuse to leave a party or step outside to get away from the craziness and ponder a bit. Or to just leave your computer for awhile and get some sun
2) Added chance of getting a lady. I have picked up many women by giving them a cigarette or asking for one. Its a good way fo you 2 to get alone and talk
3) When added with ethanol the effects can be quite pleasant
4) Oh and when a girl asks you for a cigarette and you say the word "orgasmic" silently you get a weird look (sometimes good or bad) then you simply back up the reply with "organic, these cigarettes are organic"........so yea cigarettes umm dont really get you anywhere fast except death.
I think all the suggestions given on stopping smoking so far are very good and i dont know what more I could add. Just dont watch any movies from the 50s up till say now, and you'll be alright. Oh yea TV that too [thumb]
Posted 24 January 2007 - 03:54 PM
Link to article: http://www.theday.co...be-a17cab3ba6ddNicotine Manipulation
By New York Times News Service
Published on 1/24/2007 in Editorial » Perspective
The New York Times published this editorial on Tuesday, Jan. 23:
Any doubts that the tobacco industry has surreptitiously raised the nicotine content of cigarettes should be laid to rest by a study from researchers at the Harvard School of Public Health. They confirmed last year's discovery of the nicotine increase by the Massachusetts Department of Public Health and went on to identify how the tobacco companies designed their cigarettes to accomplish this.
These manipulations were discovered because Massachusetts requires manufacturers to use a more realistic test to measure how much nicotine is deliverable to typical smokers and requires companies to report design features of their cigarettes. When Harvard researchers reanalyzed the data they found that the nicotine yield per cigarette rose by an average of 11 percent between 1998 and 2005, a conclusion contested by the industry.
Harvard researchers concluded that the companies managed this by using tobacco containing a higher concentration of nicotine and perhaps also by slowing the rate at which cigarettes burned — thus increasing the number of puffs per cigarette. The companies presumably hoped that additional nicotine would hook more new customers and keep old ones from breaking the habit.
Their continued bad behavior makes it imperative for Congress to grant the Food and Drug Administration the authority to regulate tobacco products, including the power to reduce nicotine levels and demand extensive data from the companies. The Senate overwhelmingly approved such legislation in 2004, only to have House Republicans block it. With new Democratic majorities in both houses, it is time to rein in this rogue industry.
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USA Today: News Source
Study: Quick walks may help smokers quit
LONDON (AP) — As little as five minutes of exercise could help smokers quit, says a new study. Research published in the international medical journal Addiction showed that moderate exercise, such as walking, significantly reduced the intensity of smokers' nicotine withdrawal symptoms.
"If we found the same effects in a drug, it would immediately be sold as an aid to help people quit smoking," said Dr. Adrian Taylor, the study's lead author and professor of exercise and health psychology at the University of Exeter.
Taylor and colleagues reviewed 12 papers looking at the connection between exercise and nicotine deprivation. They focused on exercises that could be done outside a gym, such as walking and isometrics, or the flexing and tensing of muscles. According to their research, just five-minutes of exercise was often enough to help smokers overcome their immediate need for a nicotine fix.
After various types of moderate physical exertion, researchers asked people to rate their need for a cigarette. People who had exercised reported a reduced desire.
"What's surprising is the strength of the effect," said Dr. Robert West, professor of health psychology at University College London. West was not involved in the review. "They found that the acute effects of exercise were as effective as a nicotine patch," he said.
West cautioned that it was unknown how long the effects of exercise would last. "You could in theory use exercise to deal with short bouts of nicotine cravings, but we don't know if it would help in the longer term," he said. It is likely that exercise would have to be combined with a larger strategy of other anti-smoking techniques to be successful in helping people quit.
Nearly anything that distracts people from smoking is thought to help, but scientists have long suspected that exercise might have a more potent effect. Taylor theorized that exercise could produce the mood-enhancing hormone dopamine, which could, in turn, reduce smokers' nicotine dependence.
Still, experts were not convinced about the study's practical applications. "Doctors can tell patients to do things until they're blue in the face, but the limiting factor may be getting people to actually take up exercise," said Dr. Peter Hajek, professor of clinical psychology at Queen Mary University Hospital in London. Hajek was not involved in the study.
Hajek said that if people were taught simple exercises, including isometric exercises they could do at their desk, they could potentially stave off their need for a cigarette break. "When you are dying for a cigarette, you can try to exercise instead," he said.
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Posted 26 March 2007 - 08:02 PM
Anyone can quit once they get the facts straight from that book and follow its advice. I'd had 2 attempts before (one lasted 3 months, another lasted one full year - I wasn't a heavy smoker), but I still relapsed somehow. Luckily, after I started reading about current possibilities for reaching "immortality" (as suggested by Kurzweil & Grossman) and decided I wanted "in" (which meant at least a new diet and no more smoking) someone happened to tell me about the "Easy Way..." book, so I got it and read it this January. I followed its explanations, took the suggested steps (BTW, you're not required to quit right away, you can smoke as usual until you finish the book - in fact, there'll be cigarettes to smoke to get some clear pictures the book is trying to give you and also a Final Cigarette at the end). It so happens that the introduction (and hype) of this book actually scares some people away [lol], as they realise that once they finish reading it, that's it, they'll never smoke again, and maybe they're not ready to accept that.Edited by donjoe, 26 March 2007 - 08:19 PM.
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Posted 28 March 2007 - 06:55 AM
Actually, it was the other guy's brilliance, the guy with the book.I only hope that as time goes by he will deem us worthy to enjoy the fruits of his brilliance!
And it's not about who's smarter here, but about what helps most in kicking this horribly addictive drug.That's a good thing only when the thing learned isn't helplessness - "I just can't do it. Look at me: I try and fail over and over..." etc. First one has to understand that every perceived "benefit" of smoking is a product of delusion, of self-deception reinforced by peers and media. After that, quitting becomes the most natural of acts.Every failed attempt is a learning experience.
Posted 08 April 2007 - 09:01 PM
News Source: Web MD
Quit-Smoking Diet: Veggies, Milk
Some Foods Make Cigarettes Taste Terrible; Others Boost Tobacco Taste
By Daniel J. DeNoon
WebMD Medical News
Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD
April 5, 2007 -- Getting ready to quit smoking? Try eating more vegetables and less meat -- and swap that coffee for a glass of milk.
A Duke University study shows that fruits, vegetables, and dairy foods make cigarettes taste terrible. But meat, coffee, and alcoholic beverages make smoking much tastier, find Duke University psychologist F. Joseph McClernon, PhD, and colleagues.
"The conventional wisdom is that cigarette addiction is all about the nicotine," McClernon tells WebMD. "But we are learning more and more it is also about sensory effects like the taste and the smell and the visual experience and the habitual routines of smoking. The taste effects are important."
McClernon, a researcher at the Duke center for nicotine and smoking research, kept hearing smokers say that certain foods and beverages made their cigarettes taste much better. He began to wonder exactly which foods these were -- and whether any foods made smoking a worse experience.
To study the issue, he asked 209 smokers to list foods that worsened or enhanced the smoking experience. The smokers averaged a little better than a pack of cigarettes a day for an average 21 years. About half were women, a fourth were black, two-thirds were white, and nearly all of them were high-school or college graduates.
Nearly 70% of the smokers said some foods made their cigarettes taste better. These foods tended to be caffeinated beverages, alcoholic beverages, and meat.
Surprisingly, just under half of the smokers -- 45% -- said some foods made their cigarettes taste worse. These foods tended to be fruits and vegetables, noncaffeinated beverages such as water and juice, dairy beverages, and dairy foods.
"We were surprised that smokers would say anything would make their cigarettes taste worse," McClernon says.
Black Smokers at Greater Risk
Another surprise: Menthol-cigarette smokers were very likely to say that their cigarettes tasted the same no matter what kind of foods and beverages they consumed. Nearly 90% of the black study participants smoked menthol cigarettes.
This means that black smokers may have a particularly hard time quitting cigarettes, suggests Scott McIntosh, PhD, associate professor of medicine at the University of Rochester in New York and director of the greater Rochester area tobacco cessation center.
McIntosh says most experts think the reason why black Americans are more likely to smoke menthol cigarettes is because they were targeted to do so by tobacco-company ads, McIntosh tells WebMD. "But this study suggests that menthol lessens the effect of taste deadening or enhancing. And you are more likely to be addicted if you are not affected by variations in taste and pleasure."
McClernon and McIntosh note that counselors tell people who quit smoking to drink lots of water and to eat carrots and celery sticks.
"The idea is to get the smoker to do something with the hands and mouth that is not smoking -- but it might actually be good to engage in some of these behaviors before quitting, to alter the taste," McClernon says. "We might ask clinicians to ask patients getting ready to quit to start consuming healthy dairy products also to see if they can alter their smoking behavior that way."
McIntosh says this is an exciting idea that will add to the repertoire of quit-smoking counselors. He looks forward to suggesting the technique to the counselors he trains.
"And this emboldens me for a strategy we use called habit breaking," he says. "The idea is to switch to a different brand of cigarettes -- and smokers say brand has a dramatic effect on taste. So if taste is such a predictor of enjoyment, this is a good reason to tell people to switch brands as a quitting strategy. It might be even more powerful than we are thinking."
McClernon says he doesn't know why some foods make cigarettes taste worse but he plans to find out.
"We are going to do research to try to understand why drinking water and eating fruits and vegetables worsens the taste of cigarettes," he says. "We don't have a lot of super good ideas about that right now. But if we understood the mechanisms, we could maybe use them to develop new treatments."
Smokers, particularly teen smokers, tend to have a poorer diet than nonsmokers do. So while quitting smoking may be the best thing you can do for your health, it isn't the only thing, suggests Avery M. Lutz, a Duke research technician who worked on the McClernon study.
"It can't hurt to eat more fruits and vegetables even before people quit smoking. It will help them have a healthier life," she tells WebMD.
The McClernon study appears in the April issue of the journal Nicotine & Tobacco Research.
SOURCES: McClernon, F.J. Nicotine & Tobacco Research, April 2007; vol 9: pp 1-6. Scott McIntosh, PhD, director, Greater Rochester Area Tobacco Cessation Center; associate professor of medicine, University of Rochester, New York. F. Joseph McClernon, PhD, investigator, Duke Center for Nicotine and Smoking Research; and assistant professor, Duke University, Durham, N.C.
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Posted 25 April 2007 - 08:21 AM
News Source: Bloomberg.com
Smoking May Kill One-Third of China's Middle-Aged Men by 2030
By Simeon Bennett
April 25 (Bloomberg) -- Tobacco-related diseases may kill a third of middle-aged men by 2030 in China, where smoking habits resemble those of America in the 1950s, researchers found.
Cigarette consumption in the world's most populous nation lags 40 years behind the U.S., where about 33 percent of adults aged 35 to 69 died of tobacco-related causes in 1990 as a result of heavy smoking in the 1950s, said Jacques Ferlay, of the International Agency for Research on Cancer. Ferlay told the Lancet Asia Medical Forum in Singapore on April 21 that he estimates the same death rate will apply to Chinese men by 2030.
China has 350 million smokers, equivalent to the population of Russia, Germany and Japan. Though cigarettes kill about a million people a year, doctors say the country may struggle to kick the habit because the tobacco industry contributes more than $30 billion to the government's annual revenue and helps support the economies of some of China's poorest provinces.
``Millions of people live on the income generated from the tobacco industry. You shut that down, you are asking for a riot,'' said Tony Mok, a professor clinical oncology at Hong Kong's Prince of Wales Hospital. ``They have very little choice but to keep it going.''
China National Tobacco Corp. made 2 trillion cigarettes last year, making it the world's largest cigarette producer. Some of the country's poorest provinces, Yunnan and Guizhou, rely on the industry for jobs and income.
`Smoke-Free' Olympics
About 57 percent of men and 3 percent of women aged 18 and over smoke in China, according to the World Health Organization's 2002 World Health Survey. Tobacco-related illnesses cost an estimated $5 billion in medical bills in 2000, according to a study published last year in the journal Tobacco Control.
There are signs China is moving to tackle the problem. In 2005, it became the 89th nation to ratify the World Health Organization's Framework Convention on Tobacco Control, the international treaty designed to reduce global demand for tobacco. And the government said that next year's Olympic Games in Beijing would be ``smoke-free,'' banning tobacco in Olympic venues and on public transport.
``The great thing about China is that it is advancing so fast economically that weaning itself off tobacco should be easier than for India,'' said Richard Horton, editor-in-chief and publisher of the medical journal Lancet, which sponsored the two-day forum in Singapore.
Smoking caused about 500,000 new cases of lung cancer for men, and 200,000 for women in 2002, according to D. Maxwell Parkin, a visiting research fellow at the University of Oxford's clinical trials service unit. Doctors don't know how to account for the prevalence in women, who smoke less, though some believe it's caused by indoor smoke from coal stoves and cooking fumes combined with poor ventilation, according to Parkin.
The WHO estimates that 40 percent of all cancer worldwide could be prevented by avoiding tobacco, having a healthy diet, exercising, and preventing infections.
``Tobacco is the most important and preventable cause of cancer world-wide,'' said Ferlay of the International Agency for Research on Cancer. ``There is a need to act now to limit the consequences of the tobacco epidemic.''
To contact the reporter on this story: Simeon Bennett in Singapore at sbennett9@bloomberg.net .
Last Updated: April 24, 2007 15:28 EDT
Posted 03 June 2007 - 08:17 PM
News Source: Iwire
Sperm don’t like a cigarette before sex
By William Atkins
Sunday, 03 June 2007
A Canadian genetics study has shown that smoking may damage a man’s sperm, which can be detrimentally passed along to offspring.
Lead investigator Carole L. Yauk, of Health Canada’s Environmental and Occupational Toxicology Division, states that smoking in men can permanently change the DNA of sperm cells, which causes irreversible changes in the genetic composition of their offspring.
DNA, or deoxyribonucleic acid, is the substance—specifically, a nucleic acid molecule with a twisted double strand double helix form—that carries the genetic information for humans and other living organisms from one generation to the next.
Tauk and her collaborators from Health Canada and McMaster University have their results (“Mainstream Tobacco Smoke Causes Paternal Germ-Line DNA Mutation”) published in this week’s issue of the scientific journal Cancer Research (2007 67: 5103-5106). Martin R. Stämpfli led the team from McMaster University. Other collaborators include M. Lynn Berndt, Andrew Williams, Andrea Rowan-Carroll, and George R. Douglas.
The article’s abstract appears at the Cancer Research website.
Within their study, the researchers used spermatogonial stem cells (those stem cells that constantly produce sperm in all mammals) and exposed them to cigarette smoke for six or 12 weeks. The mice were exposed to two cigarettes per day, which is equivalent to the amount taken in by an average human that smokes.
A control group was not exposed to the smoke. Their results show that the mice exposed to the smoke—for 12 weeks—were 1.7 times more likely to have DNA mutations than the mice not exposed to smoke. The mice exposed for six weeks were 1.4 times more likely to have mutations than the control group of mice.
They conclude that the longer the male mice were exposed to cigarette smoke the more damage that accumulates within sperm and the more likely genetic mutations will occur in offspring.
Tauk emphasized the fact that it has been previously known that mothers who smoke during their pregnancies can harm their fetuses. This study adds more evidence to the detrimental effects of cigarette smoke on offspring from men smoking even before their offspring are produced.
Yauk and her collaborators plan to learn more about this relationship as they study how the modified DNA reacts in the first-generation and second-generation offspring of the studied mice, both with respect to firsthand and secondhand smoke.
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Posted 05 June 2007 - 04:50 AM
Posted 13 September 2007 - 02:07 AM
I recently quit. Guess how I quit? I am going to patent my smoking cessation program and sale it to 1-800-quit-now.
News source: Doctor's Guide Publishing Limited
Non-Nicotine Smoking Cessation Zyban (Bupropion Hydrochloride SR) Launched In UK
LONDON, UK -- June 27, 2000 -- Zyban (bupropion hydrochloride SR), the first non-nicotine pharmacological therapy licensed for smoking cessation, was launched in the UK today. Doctors can now prescribe this treatment to help people who are motivated to quit smoking. Zyban, available in tablet form, offers an entirely new approach to smoking cessation.
Most people do not continue to smoke out of choice, but because they are addicted to nicotine. This explains why only 3 percent of smokers are able to quit each year by relying on willpower alone, and why current treatments for smoking cessation have limited success.
It is thought that Zyban reduces the cravings and withdrawal symptoms associated with quitting smoking by altering two neurotransmitters - dopamine and noradrenaline. These two neurotransmitters are believed to play a key role in nicotine addiction.
A large comparative study published in the New England Journal of Medicine found that almost one in three people (30.3 percent) treated with Zyban were not smoking at one year, compared to 16.4 percent of people using a nicotine patch. Zyban was thereby found to be almost twice as effective as a nicotine patch in helping people to quit smoking and remain abstinent at the one-year follow-up.
"Zyban is an exciting new treatment which will offer patients a real chance of successfully quitting smoking,"said Dr Chris Steele, Manchester GP and smoking cessation expert.
"Most smokers do not continue to smoke cigarettes out of habit, but because they are addicted to nicotine. Zyban is the first non-nicotine prescription medication that tackles the biochemical basis of nicotine addiction."
"Zyban represents a unique advance in smoking cessation therapy, and the success rates of patients using Zyban are very encouraging,"comments Dr Gay Sutherland, Clinical Psychologist at the Tobacco Research Section, Institute of Psychiatry, London. "It is another much needed weapon in our fight to help people stop smoking and reduce the incidence of smoking-related disease."
To achieve success with Zyban, it is important that smokers are motivated to quit. A personalised patient support programme, called the "Right Time ProgrammeTM" is therefore available for patients who have been prescribed Zyban. It is designed to encourage and support patients, through the use of a stop smoking action plan, health benefits chart, access to a dedicated telephone help line, and motivational letters timed to arrive at key stages in the quitting process.
The GP is in a strong position to help patients stop smoking. Evidence shows that giving pharmacological treatment in combination with advice and support is the most effective way of helping smokers to quit smoking, and that just three minutes of a GP's time can make a difference in helping smokers to quit.
Glaxo Wellcome is a research-based company whose people are committed to fighting disease by bringing innovative medicines and services to patients throughout the world and to the healthcare providers who serve them.
Visit the Zyban® website for for Healthcare Professionals only.
Zyban is the same drug as is in Wellbutrin (bupropion hydrochloride).
Archives of Internal Medicine
The Archives of Internal Medicine is a bi-monthly international peer-reviewed professional medical journal published by the American Medical Association. Archives of Internal Medicine, begun in 1908, publishes original, peer-reviewed manuscripts on a full spectrum of internal medicine topics including cardiovascular disease, geriatrics, infectious disease, gastroenterology, endocrinology, allergy, and immunology.
The Archives of Internal Medicine, which publishes 22 times per year, has a a print circulation of over 100 000 physicians in 75 countries. The Archives of Internal Medicine's recent acceptance rate is about 10%. The average time from receipt to first decision is 12 days; from receipt to final decision, 14 days; from submission to publication, 152 days. The Editor of the Archives of Internal Medicine is Philip Greenland, MD, Executive Associate Dean, Clinical and Translational Research, Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine, Chicago, Ill (see Archives Editorial Board).
The journal's impact factor was 8.0 in 2005, ranking near the top among over 100 general and internal medicine titles.
Vol. 167 No. 16, September 10, 2007
Original Investigation
A Double-blind, Placebo-Controlled, Randomized Trial of Bupropion for Smoking Cessation in Primary Care
Roldano Fossati, MD; Giovanni Apolone, MD; Emanuele Negri, BA; Anna Compagnoni, ScD; Carlo La Vecchia, MD; Simone Mangano, ScD; Luca Clivio, ScD; Silvio Garattini, MD; for the General Practice Tobacco Cessation Investigators Group
Arch Intern Med. 2007;167:1791-1797.
Background Studies undertaken in academic settings have shown that bupropion hydrochloride can double the odds of smoking cessation compared with placebo. To assess whether these results are applicable in primary care, we launched a double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomized trial to be conducted by general practitioners.
Methods We assigned 593 healthy smokers to receive bupropion hydrochloride, 150 mg twice a day, or placebo daily for 7 weeks (hereinafter, bupropion group [n = 400] and placebo group [n = 193], respectively). After the baseline visit, 4 clinical visits and 3 telephone calls were scheduled over the 1-year period. The primary end points were biochemically confirmed continuous abstinence at week 7 and at week 52.
Results Seventy-one Italian general practitioners enrolled participants from April 2004 to May 2005. Of the bupropion group, 41.0% were continuously abstinent from week 4 to week 7 compared with 22.3% of the placebo group (multivariate odds ratio, 2.37; 95% confidence interval, 1.60-3.53). The continuous abstinence rates from week 4 to week 52 were 25% in the bupropion group and 14% in the placebo group (odds ratio, 2.11; 95% confidence interval, 1.32-3.39). The mean weight gain was similar in both groups and among long-term abstainers was 3 kg in women and 4 kg in men. More participants in the bupropion group experienced an adverse event than those in the placebo group, but the percentage who discontinued use of the study medication was similar.
Conclusions Bupropion more than doubled the odds of continuous abstinence from smoking. The adherence of general practitioners and participants to the protocol was excellent, making our findings robust and easy to generalize to the context of primary care.
Author Affiliations: Mario Negri Institute for Pharmacologic Research (Drs Fossati, Apolone, Compagnoni, La Vecchia, Mangano, Clivio, and Garattini and Mr Negri) and Istituto di Statistica Medica e Biometria "G. A. Maccacaro," Università degli Studi di Milano (Dr La Vecchia), Milan, Italy.
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Edited by Andy, 26 December 2007 - 01:56 AM.
Posted 26 December 2007 - 05:27 AM
I smoked for 20 years - from the time I was 12 until I was 32. That's 30 years ago now.We all know they're bad. The worst thing you can do for your health. So on this board, with its focus on longevity no one really wants to be known as a smoker. But it's a fact- some of us smoke or have smoked in the past. So what helped you in your struggle against the nicotine demon? I'm looking for personal accounts here, rather than statements like "I've heard that x is really good for stopping smoking."
What helped give you an edge? What supplements, exercises or changes in daily routine really made a difference? Tell us about the initial withdrawal and the more recurring long term struggle as well.
I'm 27 years old. Got hooked at 19. Have had short periods of time when I was smoke free, the longest being the first six months of this year. I was running on a regular basis and just didn't have the urge to smoke when I was working out like that. But I live in Houston and when summer came around I used the heat as an excuse not to run, and started up again.
Now I'm stopping again - this time for real [thumb] . I did a two week herbal cleanse, started running again and cut out caffeine and alcohol for the most part, my two biggest triggers to smoke. I chew gum. I've found that lobelia helps with cravings, bacopa with relaxation, and rhodiola with mood. I just started drinking herbal teas (chamomile and rooibos). This is my fourth day without smoking and my cravings are mostly gone.
Okay, now it's your turn.
Edited by missminni, 26 December 2007 - 05:41 AM.
Posted 01 January 2008 - 08:01 PM
organic cigarettes? Now that's just ridiculous!
My newest theory:
organic filterless cigarettes lit with matches will not cause any harm.
Discuss.
Posted 01 January 2008 - 08:15 PM
organic cigarettes? Now that's just ridiculous!
My newest theory:
organic filterless cigarettes lit with matches will not cause any harm.
Discuss.
shepard. You're smart. Nice to meet you.
The chemicals in Mass produced cigs. are hazardous, and you're right. Light up with a lighter, you breath in lighter fluid.
Natural Tobacco is healthy for you. BTW: Notice the huge increase in Smoke Cessation products ads everywhere? You got it. Big Pharma cashing in.
We live in a Manipulated Society. Chances are, if the Mass Media is throwing something down your throat, there is a reason behind it. (And it always has to do with cash in someone's pocket.)
American Indians treated tobacco reverently AND as a medicinal herb. How long did they do this?
For Thousands of years. That is noteworthy.
What did the "white man" do to their culture? Decimate it.
That is noteworthy.
I for one would rather believe the "Noble Savage", then the men who spoke with "Forked Tongue".
To prove it's healthy (even the mass produced cigs. it seems) do this simple experiment.
- Go around and ask smokers and non-smokers who gets more colds.
- If you stopped smoking, are you getting more colds? (Answer truthfully.)
I'll end with this.
About 6 months back, we had a night of poker, cigars and booze at my place. One of the guys had a vicious cold.(non-smoker) At the time I was worried that I'd catch his cold. During the course of the night, I smoked about 6 cigarettes and one cigar.
The next morning, I woke up, and coughed up huge yellow phlegm and didn't get his cold. At the time, I thought like everyone else, cigs. are bad for you. But over the last 6 months, I've been learning a lot.
(By the way, the two other guys didn't get colds either, who smoked.)
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