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#1 biknut

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 04:25 PM


Why death may no longer be a fact of life

IAN JOHNSTON, SCIENCE CORRESPONDENT (ijohnston@scotsman.com)
IT IS a mystery older than Methuselah: why are we born to die after our allotted three-score years and ten?

Now scientists have discovered how genetic damage to cells and our ability to carry out repairs are the major factors in determining how long we will live. The research could lead to new treatments for horrific diseases which cause young children to age prematurely and die, with trials expected within a year.

And while Methuselah's 969 years and an elixir of eternal life are still in the realms of religious belief and science fiction, researchers believe it is now theoretically possible at least to extend lifespan "significantly".

It was once thought the ageing process was pre-programmed, hardwired into the human condition, and that death was simply a fact of life. But life expectancies in developed countries have stubbornly continued their upwards rise, by about two years every decade or about five hours a day.

A paper made public yesterday by the journal Nature detailed a study of mice which grew old and died within three weeks because they lacked genes involved in repairing damage to DNA, and also the discovery of a new disease which results in premature ageing. Professor Laura Niedernhofer, of Pittsburgh University, said their findings showed that DNA damage and the ability to repair it were crucial in determining lifespan.

"Damage, including DNA damage, drives the functional decline we all experience as we age," she said. "But how we respond to that damage is determined genetically, in particular by genes that regulate growth hormone and insulin.

"Avoiding or reducing DNA damage caused by sources such as sunlight and cigarette smoke, as well as by our own metabolism, also could delay ageing."

A key finding was that the mice which lacked genes to repair DNA damage and died in three weeks went through similar changes to mice which lived the normal two and a half years, showing that the genes were involved in the natural ageing process.

Professor Jan Hoeijmakers, the head of genetics at Erasmus University Medical Centre in Rotterdam, Netherlands, and a co-author of the report, said it was "early days", but understanding why we get old was paving the way for new treatments for age-related diseases.

"We may go to these diseases with children that are rapidly ageing to see if we can help these patients. Maybe in six months to a year, he said."

In the longer term, it could lead to a healthier old age and a longer life, perhaps more likely to be ended by disease or injury than old age, but not immortality.

"It is not valid to say this is the secret of eternal life; that would be irresponsible," Prof Hoeijmakers said.

"I think it's impossible to make repair perfect; nothing is perfect in nature. There will always be some damage that persists and causes cell death that contributes to ageing. I think indeed theoretically it should be possible to extend lifespan significantly - if we had all the knowledge - but we are very far from that."

The simple act of being alive causes damage that leads to death. A by-product of breathing is reactive oxygen, which causes damage to DNA that must be continually fixed. As the body ages, the damage builds up and the metabolism changes to focus on repair work.

"There may be ways in which we can trigger this survival response - which promotes healthy ageing, tries to prolong your lifespan - using drugs or chemicals," Prof Hoeijmakers said.

A spokesman for the Roman Catholic Church said that the research sounded "fascinating", with the potential for new treatments for diseases that cause premature ageing.

"As for the implications of lengthening lifespans, these are far more social than theological," he said. "Clearly, life will still come to an end. We may have to wait a bit longer to meet our maker, but it sounds like sooner or later we all will."

LINK TO DNA
THE researchers began studying the link between DNA damage and ageing in the late 1990s, when a German doctor treating a 15-year-old Afghan boy contacted the Erasmus medical centre for help.

His patient suffered from hearing loss, sight problems, muscle wasting and weight loss, anaemia, hypertension and kidney failure.

The researchers tested cells for one form of DNA repair mechanism and found almost no activity at all. They then analysed his DNA and discovered he had a mutation on a gene which played an important part in the repair process and that this had led him to age prematurely.

Other forms of 'progeria' include Cockayne's syndrome, which restricts growth and causes premature ageing and death.

This article: http://news.scotsman...m?id=1894072006

#2 caston

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 04:40 PM

Interesting the response from the Roman Catholic Church. If we really don't need stem cells to cure ageing then why should they be interested in stopping us?

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 05:32 PM

Interesting the response from the Roman Catholic Church. If we really don't need stem cells to cure ageing then why should they be interested in stopping us?


No, that's not how I interpreted. I interpreted the following:

A spokesman for the Roman Catholic Church said that the research sounded "fascinating", with the potential for new treatments for diseases that cause premature ageing.

"As for the implications of lengthening lifespans, these are far more social than theological," he said. "Clearly, life will still come to an end. We may have to wait a bit longer to meet our maker, but it sounds like sooner or later we all will."


As: "Yes, the turnover rate may reduce, but we will always have an audience to which we can market our products".

#4 bgwowk

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 06:54 PM

"As for the implications of lengthening lifespans, these are far more social than theological," he said. "Clearly, life will still come to an end. We may have to wait a bit longer to meet our maker, but it sounds like sooner or later we all will."

That is the most benign perspective religion can take toward extended lifespans. It is the most compatible way for immortalism to coexist with religion. Besides, it's almost certainly true. Even "death by self-transcendence" as a entity changes from something to something else to something else over eons is still death.

#5 John Schloendorn

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 08:40 PM

"death by self-transcendence"

Interesting... You think it could be a market for religions of the future to console long-lived persons against the accumulation of psychological change?

#6 bgwowk

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 09:41 PM

Interesting... You think it could be a market for religions of the future to console long-lived persons against the accumulation of psychological change?

Bad stuff always happens. It is only the meaning of "bad" that changes. Who knows what coping mechanisms intelligent life of the far future will use. All I'm saying is that right now, today, it makes more sense to get along with religion than claim technology is going to change any eternal verities.

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Posted 24 December 2006 - 10:57 PM

a market for religions of the future to console long-lived persons against the accumulation of psychological change?


This is pertinent to the central metaphor of Greg Egan's book Schild's Ladder, which I urge everyone to read, if only for sheer entertainment value.

I wonder what Niedernhofer has to say about DNA damage in naked mole rats...

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Posted 25 December 2006 - 01:31 AM

MY 2 cents:

"I think it's impossible to make repair perfect; nothing is perfect in nature. There will always be some damage that persists and causes cell death that contributes to ageing. I think indeed theoretically it should be possible to extend lifespan significantly - if we had all the knowledge - but we are very far from that."


Repair will never be perfect, but we're not dealing with simple data here, we're dealing with self-replicating machinery. Copies of self-replicating entities that are more defective at their function are simply outcompeted by those that are more efficient, this the reason life is 'immortal', ever evading the sword of entropy, and capable of unfathomable adaptation. To deal with the issue of such damage, you need only cripple the adaptation capacity of these self-replicating entities, so as to lock them in their particular function, such that any deviation from functional status leads to self-destruction and replacement by any of the other functioning copies, not to unregulated growth or survival in a dysfunctional status. This is probably part of the strategy nature itself has taken to increase lifespans by orders of magnitude, with ever tighter and more advanced regulation keeping quality control of these self-replicating entities.

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Posted 25 December 2006 - 07:52 AM

In the car on the way up to Xmas lunch today I was thinking that it would be more than a little rude if discoveries about progenia helped us to cure our own ageing while the poor progenia kids still died. We should really include them in our efforts to cure ageing and perhaps even try to save them first. Certainly it should be more ethical to put curing a child with progenia before curing an old person.

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Posted 25 December 2006 - 08:32 AM

Certainly it should be more ethical to put curing a child with progenia before curing an old person.


Be very, very careful with where you are going there...that is an ageist quote. Almost everyone deserves to have the option to live. The only people for whom it would be appropriate to "force" into a "natural" and culturally-accepted death by old age would be those who have opposed efforts of life extension and those who have terminated the lives of others. GW Bush and those who oppose stem cell research come to mind.

I agree though generally that a child who has only experienced 15 years of life certainly deserves to experience more life. But that is a relative statement. Someone who has enjoyed 5 million years and spent most of that time giving back to society by contributing to advancements in technology or other means to promote the welfare of others and help others live up to their full potential, certainly deserves more time as well. Any aging research will likely benefit both groups. So I don't think there will need to be a research choice. In fact, I think the children with progenia will be the best test subjects for aging intervention.

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Posted 26 December 2006 - 07:58 AM

If we study children with progenia we should do so with intentions of helping them.

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 11:46 PM

Thing is... you're equating progeria with ageing - progeria may accelerate a specific aspect of the ageing process but a cure for progeria would not necessarily be a cure for ageing.

In fact, as I understand it many cases of progeria are due to a defect in a single gene or pathway involved in producing Lamin A. Certainly not identical to the many, complex changes in ordinary ageing!




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