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What identifies each person? / Infernity


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#1 Infernity

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Posted 04 February 2007 - 06:19 PM


What identifies each person? / Adi Berman (Infernity)

I think what identifies each person other than what’s viewable by eye-sight, is of course each one’s individual ethos. The entire world one knows and all the information, including feelings (both verbal and mental), thoughts and all the rest of the things one can think of- is stored in his brain, and commonly used in terms of cognition (consciousness), mind and even soul.

What makes one, one of a kind is the unique life-experience that he and only he has gained. When I say experience, I do not only speak of the experience that we know, remember and define as ‘yielding-an-experience actions’. When I say experience, I speak of all technical actions ever taken by us, including the winks we daily do, the swallowing action and even the breathing action and so all the rest of the trivial actions taken by us. I also speak of the experience of walking on X and Y floor blocks, and not on Z and A floor blocks. I speak of any single minimal action. Nonetheless, each thought one has, relies on his experience, and each thought is a whole new experience to affect the next.

Each person as an organism was born as an egoistic creature, and hence all actions ever taken by one, consciously or unconsciously, were taken under the dictating enforcement of chemical reactions that seek for the best way to assure the survival of this individual creature as it is, relying of course on evolutional aspects, while keeping the mind development accorded to the person’s same unique experiences.

How come then we all born differently? Well, not only each fetus lies in different wombs of different mothers, in different positions, in different places and different conditions; and additionally, each one is born in different times by different people, in different ways, to a different air of different places; each one’s very first life-experience is different by start. I speak of no other than genes.

Our genetical information is to determine our first life-experiences' analysis, of which from we develop. We all analyze all events by pre-experience gained, all relying on the very first information we had that naturally has also been ultimately designed to make us survive.




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January 2007.



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#2 zoolander

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Posted 04 February 2007 - 07:15 PM

Some very nice realisations Adi. Very insightful. I would agree that our every action is written, or even engrained into both our conscious and subconscious minds. Our experiance and perception of the reality i.e realm, that we live in has alot to do with the person we become/are.

Each person as an organism was born as an egoistic creature, and hence all actions ever taken by one, consciously or unconsciously, were taken under the dictating enforcement of chemical reactions that seek for the best way to assure the survival of this individual creature as it is, relying of course on evolutional aspects, while keeping the mind development accorded to the person’s same unique experiences.


I agree with this except the point about evolution. In some situations it does not apply. Let me give the example of the anger that is commonly seen when someone cuts you off in a car. Let's say you get angry and verbally, perhaps physically, threaten the other driver. From an evolutionary standpoint anger doesn't seem to serve it's evolutionary role. Anger, from an evolutionary standpoint, when expressed towards another person acts to warn the other person to not to do whatever they did again. The warning is recieved in such a way that when you encounter that person again you know what not to do to get this person angry. However, we often get angry at people we will never ever see again. Like with road rage or at a sporting event.

A better example would be the flight or fight response. It's quite common to have your sympathetic nervous system in the flight or fight mode sitting at your work where there is no reason to fight or flight.

Desire and self-absorption blind people. Unfortunately, in a society that seems to be driven by ego and materialpossesion, the identity that you speak of is hard to find for a lot of people. I assume you are talking about finding your true self Adi? What idenifies you? Fromk a buddhist standpoint, this does not exist. The search for the true self ends up finding no one. A sense of self is essentially the origin of ego and as you said above,

Each person as an organism was born as an egoistic creature


Edited by zoolander, 04 February 2007 - 09:05 PM.


#3 caston

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Posted 05 February 2007 - 02:41 AM

Desire and self-absorption blind people. Unfortunately, in a society that seems to be driven by ego and materialpossesion, the identity that you speak of is hard to find for a lot of people. I assume you are talking about finding your true self Adi? What idenifies you? Fromk a buddhist standpoint, this does not exist. The search for the true self ends up finding no one. A sense of self is essentially the origin of ego and as you said above,


Damn at least when my parents told me that Santa Clause and the Easter bunny do not exist they didn't tell me the even more shocking news that I do not exist! ;)

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#4 brokenportal

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Posted 21 May 2007 - 07:13 AM

Im confused. From what I grasp, you made an oustanding case for why we are different because of our surroundings, then seemed to attribute it to genes. Maybe Im missing something, I am pretty tired. But please do elaborate if you would. Also, is infernity your real middle name? I ask because my daughters middle name is infinity, so I could imagine infernity.

#5 JohnDoe1234

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Posted 22 May 2007 - 02:48 AM

Hey, awesome read!

I specifically liked how you phrased this statement, very elegant...

Each person as an organism was born as an egoistic creature, and hence all actions ever taken by one, consciously or unconsciously, were taken under the dictating enforcement of chemical reactions that seek for the best way to assure the survival of this individual creature as it is

From the looks of your work Adi, it seems you might be interested in a conversation that went on in the philosophy forums a few weeks ago: http://www.imminst.o...=ST&f=3&t=15628

I don't know how familiar you are with the theory of Determinism, but Don, Eirenicon, and I had a fairly lengthy discussion about the topic, and it is still unresolved, but I think you might find it somewhat interesting (assuming you haven't already read through it)...

The reason why I bring it up here is because it is directly applicable to your paper here, how all of our actions are dictated by other processes that we don't entirely have control over...

#6 Shannon Vyff

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Posted 22 May 2007 - 04:34 AM

I love ethnology and the new field of evolutionary psychology. That is my hobby right now, and I put a lot of it in my book.

I've always thought that we are controlled by our genes and our environment/learning. Before even passing on my 'genes' I had the urge to have children that my society would find beautiful--and to have an intelligent partner.

My feeling of my consciousness being a construct of my past experiences and learnings--made me be a cryonicist, (age 21) way before I knew about the possibilities we really have for ending aging.

It take a lot more to 'survive' in our modern society if by 'surviving' one means a better income or education. I try to stay aware of as much societal news, world news, science news as I can--so I can incorporate pertinent information into my consciousness. This takes the form of donating, educating/inspiring children... along with adopting lifestyle development I see as benefiting the amount of life I can have.




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