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[stephenszpak]

I came across this search engine today (as well as a number of others).
It is very slow, unless it's my connection speed. It has a interesting setup
that I have never seen before.

You type in a word and it creates a 'cloud' of other words. You can remove
some of these words or add them to the search. (You can also double click
on an empty area of the search area to create a little box to add a word that
expands the search as well.)

I typed in nutrition
in about 25 seconds (using 500K DSL) I got the page below.

Is this a new concept in searching? Anybody use this site? Any comments
about other search engines? -Stephen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quintura

http://www.quintura.com/

Edited by stephenszpak, 08 February 2007 - 02:48 AM.

[jdog]

Interesting. I've seen a site that does something similarly, but with music instead. You type in a favorite song and it pulls up lots of other stuff that you'd likely enjoy.
here It and Quintura use a similar "cloud tag" display. Very cool.

[Lazarus Long]

One more tool to tie up processing capacity for my comp. Thanks Stephen I like the GUI approach too. It has a very user friendly appeal.

My poor little comp has been ridden hard and put away wet too many times, I blew all the caps out of my mother board and have been rebuilding her from the baseboard up. So now it is time to start looking for more tools to load her saddlebags down with. I am definitely in the market for parts and been thinking of going to a dual processor rig. Anyone have comments on that approach to multitasking as opposed to the advantages for gamers?

I have been trying to design and build a gaming computer to give my son for his birthday too.

[stephenszpak]

Lazarus

I like to help people but this is out of my league. You could try here???:::

http://forums.cnet.com/

-Stephen

[stephenszpak]

Interesting. I've seen a site that does something similarly, but with music instead. You type in a favorite song and it pulls up lots of other stuff that you'd likely enjoy.
here It and Quintura use a similar "cloud tag" display. Very cool.

Hi

The site is currently down for some reason. (musicplasma)

I have been searching for music and videos lately myself. One thing I came across
many months ago is pandora.com You can type in a song and create a station
that has similar songs. You can also search. See below.



This is a recent post of mine. Someone liked Alicia Keys so I found some similar music.

http://www.imminst.o...20

Is you listen to music for an average of 1 hour a day, Pandora is excellent. More than that,
it could become redundant.

Here is a site that I haven't tried. Possibly illegal. (Hey what isn't?)

http://www.kazaa.com/us/index.htm



(singingfish.com was great. I went there yesterday but today the same page opens
to AOL for some reason. http://search.singingfish.com )

Update, here's what happened. Just found this.

America Online on Wednesday said that it acquired audio and video search service Singingfish in an effort to improve its own Web search engine.


These sites can be used to search for music videos/audios. I don't think any search engine
will have a list of every video/audio , from my recent experiences. Google owns youtube,
for example.



I go here a lot because I like their setup. Dailymotion.

http://www.dailymotion.com/


http://video.aol.com/

(Since AOL owns singfish now, I'm going to see if this combination of the 2
is going to work as well as it should.)


http://www.youtube.com/

(Almost every music video out there. Don't like their setup myself.)


http://www.altavista.com/


http://www.alltheweb.com/


http://www.dogpile.com/



http://search.lycos.com/


http://www.searchforvideo.com/


http://www.blinkx.co...?safefilter=off


http://video.google....hl=en&tab=wv&q=





Myspace and purevolume are much the same.

http://www.myspace.com/


http://www.purevolume.com/


http://www.vh1.com/


http://www.mtv.com/


Final thoughts:

Urge by MTV is $9.95 a month. I recently got it. Has 70% of the music I like.
For a flat-fee service I think it is adequate.

Search engine for lyrics. Lyrics not always correct though. There are many
engines for lyrics out there.

http://www.sing365.com/

-Stephen

Edited by stephenszpak, 08 February 2007 - 11:34 PM.

[stephenszpak]

Top 10 Search Providers, December 2006

http://www.clickz.co...ml?page=3624821

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Search engine tutorial. (Haven't tried it as yet.)

http://www.pandia.co...tter/index.html

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Plenty of search engines:

http://www.pandia.co...arch/index.html

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[xanadu]

I'm waiting for the search engine that has some common sense. I want one that I can type a question and get an answer. For example, if I type "what is the best oil for a mazda?" I do not want 11 million pages about buying a mazda, sales figures, advertisements, etc plus another 15 mill about buying oil, oil stocks, etc etc. Ideally it will be able to answer technical questions or direct me to pages that are likely to have the answer. What we have now are still dumb search engines. They are getting better but you still have to be pretty good at asking the right questions and search through a ton of irrelevant junk.

[stephenszpak]

I'm waiting for the search engine that has some common sense. I want one that I can type a question and get an answer. For example, if I type "what is the best oil for a mazda?" I do not want 11 million pages about buying a mazda, sales figures, advertisements, etc plus another 15 mill about buying oil, oil stocks, etc etc. Ideally it will be able to answer technical questions or direct me to pages that are likely to have the answer. What we have now are still dumb search engines. They are getting better but you still have to be pretty good at asking the right questions and search through a ton of irrelevant junk.

I agree. The search engines of today are a joke. You want something simple, and you're done
in a minute, otherwise it might not even be possible to find what you want. If you can't find what
you want you still don't know for sure if it DOES or DOES NOT exist somewhere on some server.

I've recently read
that in some cases you'd be better off talking to a libraian.

One of the only
reasonable alternatives is to find people (on-line in some forum, or in reallife) that have been
down the path you want to go down. That is, if you have to actually learn/do something.

For those that aren't mechanically inclined, how are you going to fix something when you don't
have someone standing next to you, guiding you? How can you replace some part on your car
when you don't even know what it looks like? Or build a computer even if all the parts are on the
table in front of you? I suppose in future decades these problems would be solved by VR/AI tutorials,
but I doubt we will see it. Sure, you can find a tutorial on-line today that you can read, but it's never the
same as having a good teacher.

-Stephen

[Aegist]

I'm waiting for the search engine that has some common sense. I want one that I can type a question and get an answer. For example, if I type "what is the best oil for a mazda?" I do not want 11 million pages about buying a mazda, sales figures, advertisements, etc plus another 15 mill about buying oil, oil stocks, etc etc. Ideally it will be able to answer technical questions or direct me to pages that are likely to have the answer. What we have now are still dumb search engines. They are getting better but you still have to be pretty good at asking the right questions and search through a ton of irrelevant junk.

I agree. The search engines of today are a joke. You want something simple, and you're done
in a minute, otherwise it might not even be possible to find what you want. If you can't find what
you want you still don't know for sure if it DOES or DOES NOT exist somewhere on some server.

Definitely. The problem is the same as with all evolutionary problems. It is an arms race which results in an evolutionary stable system.... You have the search engines trying to find the best results for you, but as soon as they have a system, someone invents a better spam page to get first place in that system. Most websites on the internet are there to make money and that is all they are designed to do. Very few actually put good content up, and the few that do have good content then have to fight with the rest to get that position.

Thats why things like Digg and social sites in general were made, so you know you won't be getting spam sites. But of course, they only cover the 'interesting' sites, not necessarily the fact ridden ecclectic site that you actually want... Of course you then have DMOZ which is attempting to create a 'directory' of the whole internet. Each website must be submitted and they are then reviewed individually. So every site in DMOZ is a good quality site.

but again, this doesn't solve the problem of common sense searching, it only removes the junk which you have to filter through.

While we are stuck with non-sensical search methods, you have to improve yourself. Don't search for "what is the best oil for a mazda?" because people don't ask questions on their websites, they answer them. Try searching for "The best oil for a mazda is" and then when you want to get fancy, try using the advanced search techniques. Try removing 'second hand' 'car sales' etc from your search term.

While search engines aren't brilliant yet, it is up to the users to be brilliant with them.

[Aegist]

here is an interesting search engine
http://www.slashmysearch.com/
which I was introduced to just the other day. It is still only in beta phase, and so still has a few bugs, but it has a number of nice features. It offers you keyword suggestions as you type and on the search results page (so you can edit your search easily if you didn't get quite what you want).


It also takes you to the destination site in a frame (which is easily closed) with high internet security settings. The theory being simply that you can check a site out before exposing yourself to an possible phishing, spyware etc. It also has warning on potential phishing sites.

It also has an 'Ebay spelling error Search', which you can use to find ebay auctions which are misspellt, and hence usually ahve far fewer bids on them....

but the craziest thing of all about slashmysearch, and quite honestly the one reason I am now using them, is they actually pay you for using their search. its only 25c per hour, but I am a net junky, i am regularly on the net and often use search engines, so its one of those things where I won't have to do anything, pay anything or risk anything, and If I make $50 every few months by searching with a different search engine...then why not? They also pay on referrals (so yes, I have used my affiliate referral above, so if anyone want to sign up, that would be cool ) Otherwise, this link just goes straight to the site: http://www.slashmysearch.com without any referral.

Shane

Edited by Aegist, 14 February 2007 - 02:35 AM.

[stephenszpak]

Aegist wrote>While search engines aren't brilliant yet, it is up to the users to be brilliant with them.

Really. I justed typed "free gold" into the search box at google and got
514,000 hits. I've been searching for music videos lately. Usually youtube
will have the video, but their quality is soooooo bad. (wish they would fix that).
I use multiple search engines for videos too. It is amazing, the difference
sometimes in the number of results.

-Stephen

[jdog]

If anyone finds a cool music search engine that utilizes tag clouds, mind posting it? The one I used to use at musicplasma.com seems to be out of comission.

[stephenszpak]

I guess dailymotion has what you want. But it only searches within
its own site. Example below is the first page of a search for Fu Manchu. -Stephen

http://www.dailymoti...rch/Fu Manchu/1

[jdog]

Hmm nice site. Cool that it has so many music videos.