Hormonal Test
glexia 06 Mar 2007
- T3 -------- 1180 pmol/24h (low) (800-2500) -------- >1500 doctor recomended
- T4 -------- 1030 pmol/24h (low) (550-3160) -------- >1800 doctor recomended
Doctor said pre-hypotiroidism.
Supplement: L- tyrosine.
- Cortisol ------13.6 micrograms/24 (low) (10-100) ------- 20-25 doctor recomended
Supplement: Siberian ginseng(Eleutherococcus senticosus)
-DHEA ------- 3.55 mg/24h (Very high) (0.04-0.82)
-Testosterone ---1.19 mg/24h (High) (0.24-0.90)
-Progesterone--- 3.66 mg/24h (High) (0.20-2.00)
Androgenic effects.
Supplements:
-Testo.Quench (Douglas)
-Fennel seeds(Foeniculum vulgare)
-Fenogreek seeds
Aldosterone------20.9 microgm/24h (Little high) (5.0-20)
Sodium-----------98.6 mEq/24h (little low) (100-220)
Magnesium ------127 mg/24h (little high) (60-120)
Any advice?
06 Mar 2007
The right nutrition is important. The adrenals need zinc, and vitamin b6 is needed to break down proteins which then are made into hormones and other things. Women can have problems with b6 sometimes because it has to be converted in the liver to the active form. (Estrogen can cause a sluggish liver for some women.) You might try taking both forms, the pyrdoxine and p-5-p form. Pantethenic acid is also supposed to help the adrenals.
Your doctor does not believe in the William Jefferies approach to treating mild adrenal fatique with low dose natural cortisone. This might be something to ask about next time. I think the herbs don't work for that long. They are adaptagenic which means the body seems to get used to them. So the herbs may not be the most effective way. Licorice is also useful because it prevents the breakdown of cortisol in the liver. Some people even think that using DLG which has the active ingredient removed can still help with increasing energy levels. But if I take one capsule of licorice I will not sleep for 48 hours. Licorice does not work like those other herbs do so you might be careful with the dose if you do try it.
glexia 06 Mar 2007
I take zinc and "female balance" of NOW . It has B6,more zinc, vitex,don quai..it seems to be good for my acné.
I didn´t know that thing about the herbs....and i have not read anything about William Jefferies ....i´m looking for information now
ajnast4r 07 Mar 2007
doug123 07 Mar 2007
I have done an hormonal test beacuse i have acne and menstrual imbalances. These are the results (only problems):
- T3 -------- 1180 pmol/24h (low) (800-2500) -------- >1500 doctor recomended
- T4 -------- 1030 pmol/24h (low) (550-3160) -------- >1800 doctor recomended
Doctor said pre-hypotiroidism.
Supplement: L- tyrosine.
- Cortisol ------13.6 micrograms/24 (low) (10-100) ------- 20-25 doctor recomended
Supplement: Siberian ginseng(Eleutherococcus senticosus)
-DHEA ------- 3.55 mg/24h (Very high) (0.04-0.82)
-Testosterone ---1.19 mg/24h (High) (0.24-0.90)
-Progesterone--- 3.66 mg/24h (High) (0.20-2.00)
Androgenic effects.
Supplements:
-Testo.Quench (Douglas)
-Fennel seeds(Foeniculum vulgare)
-Fenogreek seeds
Aldosterone------20.9 microgm/24h (Little high) (5.0-20)
Sodium-----------98.6 mEq/24h (little low) (100-220)
Magnesium ------127 mg/24h (little high) (60-120)
Any advice?
You might consider continuing to monitor your hormone levels to watch to see if there are any changes. Once I had blood drawn and my thyroid levels were totally off the chart. I was referred to an endocrinologist. She did some tests and had me all geared up for some crazy thryoid medication...then my doctor had the wise idea to have my blood levels checked again. And guess what? They were back to normal. And then we tested again and the same thing -- my levels were fine.
Also: did you make sure to comply with the proper testing conditions for testing your hormones?
I'm not sure what rule might apply for hormone testing; however, when I have my blood drawn to perform routine testing for cholesterol, CBC, Diff./platelets, CMP, lipids, &c. -- you name it -- the doctor tells me to fast that morning until I get my blood drawn. So that means no food or drink with caloric value until after the blood is drawn in the morning! Obviously blood sugar and possibly several other systems involved in glucose metabolism may be modulated by my morning coffee with organic milk and manuka honey! It seems many of the human endocrine and other associated systems are tightly regulated by what you eat and your body will probably report differently under fasting condition than under other particular constraints. The bottom line is that basically if you eat before getting your blood drawn to perform these tests, the tests results are pretty much totally bunk -- or worthless. So I wonder if that's the case with hormones...I should check next time...
wayside 07 Mar 2007
It seems many of the human endocrine and other associated systems are tightly regulated by what you eat and your body will probably report differently under fasting condition than under other particular constraints. The bottom line is that basically if you eat before getting your blood drawn to perform these tests, the tests results are pretty much totally bunk -- or worthless.
I have always wondered about this.
Since most of us aren't in a fasting state most of the time, where we haven't eaten or drank for 8-10 hours (not me, anyway, except for while I'm sleeping), why do we consider this the "valid" way to test ourselves?
Personally, I'm in a "has eaten within the last 3-5 hours" state for a much higher percentage of the time than I am in a "hasn't eaten for 8-10 hours" state. I would think the tests would be better/more useful if they reflect the state I am in most often.
mitkat 07 Mar 2007
The tests are valid because your body is free of food and is displaying actual levels/contents/amounts/whatever of your body, irrelevant of what you've eaten recently that would throw it off, AFAIK. Someone please correct me I'm wrong, as this is how I've come to understand it.
wayside 07 Mar 2007
The tests are valid because your body is free of food and is displaying actual levels/contents/amounts/whatever of your body, irrelevant of what you've eaten recently that would throw it off, AFAIK.
But if I am in a "recently eaten" state 80% of the time, and a "fasting" state only 20% of the time, wouldn't it more important to figure out your levels for the state you are in most of the time?
Or is it about reproducibility?
mitkat 07 Mar 2007
I didn´t know that thing about the herbs....and i have not read anything about William Jefferies ....i´m looking for information now
I too am impressed your doctor told you about herbal supplements...I would imagine they'd of just offered you some pills to take instead. Investigate them, and ask back here if you can't find any good info.