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[glexia]

I have done an hormonal test beacuse i have acne and menstrual imbalances. These are the results (only problems):

- T3 -------- 1180 pmol/24h (low) (800-2500) -------- >1500 doctor recomended
- T4 -------- 1030 pmol/24h (low) (550-3160) -------- >1800 doctor recomended

Doctor said pre-hypotiroidism.
Supplement: L- tyrosine.



- Cortisol ------13.6 micrograms/24 (low) (10-100) ------- 20-25 doctor recomended
Supplement: Siberian ginseng(Eleutherococcus senticosus)



-DHEA ------- 3.55 mg/24h (Very high) (0.04-0.82)
-Testosterone ---1.19 mg/24h (High) (0.24-0.90)
-Progesterone--- 3.66 mg/24h (High) (0.20-2.00)

Androgenic effects.
Supplements:
-Testo.Quench (Douglas)
-Fennel seeds(Foeniculum vulgare)
-Fenogreek seeds


Aldosterone------20.9 microgm/24h (Little high) (5.0-20)
Sodium-----------98.6 mEq/24h (little low) (100-220)
Magnesium ------127 mg/24h (little high) (60-120)



Any advice?

[ajnast4r]

i like your doctor

[glexia]

I asked him about iodine, but he told me that iodine may not be good for acné .

I take zinc and "female balance" of NOW . It has B6,more zinc, vitex,don quai..it seems to be good for my acné.

I didn´t know that thing about the herbs....and i have not read anything about William Jefferies ....i´m looking for information now

[ajnast4r]

why dont you just do what ur doctor told you... his recomendation seem to be pretty good to me

[doug123]

I have done an hormonal test beacuse i have acne and  menstrual imbalances. These are the results (only problems):

- T3  --------  1180 pmol/24h  (low)          (800-2500)  --------  >1500 doctor recomended
- T4  --------  1030 pmol/24h  (low)          (550-3160) --------  >1800  doctor recomended

Doctor said pre-hypotiroidism.
Supplement: L- tyrosine.



- Cortisol ------13.6  micrograms/24 (low)      (10-100) -------  20-25  doctor recomended
Supplement: Siberian ginseng(Eleutherococcus senticosus)



-DHEA ------- 3.55 mg/24h  (Very high)          (0.04-0.82)
-Testosterone ---1.19  mg/24h  (High)            (0.24-0.90)
-Progesterone--- 3.66  mg/24h  (High)            (0.20-2.00)

Androgenic effects.
Supplements:
-Testo.Quench (Douglas)
-Fennel seeds(Foeniculum vulgare)
-Fenogreek seeds


Aldosterone------20.9  microgm/24h (Little high)          (5.0-20)
Sodium-----------98.6  mEq/24h  (little low)                  (100-220)
Magnesium ------127  mg/24h    (little high)                  (60-120)



Any advice?

You might consider continuing to monitor your hormone levels to watch to see if there are any changes. Once I had blood drawn and my thyroid levels were totally off the chart. I was referred to an endocrinologist. She did some tests and had me all geared up for some crazy thryoid medication...then my doctor had the wise idea to have my blood levels checked again. And guess what? They were back to normal. And then we tested again and the same thing -- my levels were fine.

Also: did you make sure to comply with the proper testing conditions for testing your hormones?

I'm not sure what rule might apply for hormone testing; however, when I have my blood drawn to perform routine testing for cholesterol, CBC, Diff./platelets, CMP, lipids, &c. -- you name it -- the doctor tells me to fast that morning until I get my blood drawn. So that means no food or drink with caloric value until after the blood is drawn in the morning! Obviously blood sugar and possibly several other systems involved in glucose metabolism may be modulated by my morning coffee with organic milk and manuka honey! It seems many of the human endocrine and other associated systems are tightly regulated by what you eat and your body will probably report differently under fasting condition than under other particular constraints. The bottom line is that basically if you eat before getting your blood drawn to perform these tests, the tests results are pretty much totally bunk -- or worthless. So I wonder if that's the case with hormones...I should check next time...

[wayside]

It seems many of the human endocrine and other associated systems are tightly regulated by what you eat and your body will probably report differently under fasting condition than under other particular constraints. The bottom line is that basically if you eat before getting your blood drawn to perform these tests, the tests results are pretty much totally bunk -- or worthless.

I have always wondered about this.

Since most of us aren't in a fasting state most of the time, where we haven't eaten or drank for 8-10 hours (not me, anyway, except for while I'm sleeping), why do we consider this the "valid" way to test ourselves?

Personally, I'm in a "has eaten within the last 3-5 hours" state for a much higher percentage of the time than I am in a "hasn't eaten for 8-10 hours" state. I would think the tests would be better/more useful if they reflect the state I am in most often.

[mitkat]

Unless you happen to be eating the same thing, all the time, your levels will be consistantly and possibly drastically different. Think of your glucose levels if you had a huge glass of orange juice directly before...that would be disproportionate of your body's actual state, unless you happened to be drinking orange juice 24/7 your entire life.

The tests are valid because your body is free of food and is displaying actual levels/contents/amounts/whatever of your body, irrelevant of what you've eaten recently that would throw it off, AFAIK. Someone please correct me I'm wrong, as this is how I've come to understand it.

[wayside]

The tests are valid because your body is free of food and is displaying actual levels/contents/amounts/whatever of your body, irrelevant of what you've eaten recently that would throw it off, AFAIK.

But if I am in a "recently eaten" state 80% of the time, and a "fasting" state only 20% of the time, wouldn't it more important to figure out your levels for the state you are in most of the time?

Or is it about reproducibility?

[mitkat]

I understand what you're getting at wayside, and it's a damn good question. It may simply be about reproducibility (science loves that) and having some sort of reliable baseline to compare to. [thumb] Hopefully someone else can chime in on this.

I didn´t know that thing about the herbs....and i have not read anything about William Jefferies ....i´m looking for information now

I too am impressed your doctor told you about herbal supplements...I would imagine they'd of just offered you some pills to take instead. Investigate them, and ask back here if you can't find any good info.